SUFC: The Future SUFC up for sale

[Chrisb]

It’s hard to imagine a wholly fan owned model but the people on here dismissing it as laughable and the most ludicrous idea posted haven’t been reading all the other posts and rumours. If the Trust, Anna Firth and council think it’s worth exploring it will be interesting to hear where it goes before dismissing it out of hand.

Absolutely, I am pleased that other options are being looked at, who knows whether or not they prove to be possible or viable but well done to the Trust and Anna. Years have been wasted waiting for Ron to decide the Club's future, let's at least consider alternatives if we can.

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Sorry, but you’re wrong. IMO the same as you may think I’m wrong. BUT, your structure you’ve quoted would see us in a bigger hole and than we are in 12 months.

anyone with a little bit of business know how could run a competitive EFL club with the supporter base that SUFC has ..

 

[ms brush]

Absolutely, I am pleased that other options are being looked at, who knows whether or not they prove to be possible or viable but well done to the Trust and Anna. Years have been wasted waiting for Ron to decide the Club's future, let's at least consider alternatives if we can.

Exactly what I said last week - at this stage no idea is a bad idea. There will be lots of possibilities, each with pros and cons - if they are shut down before they are explored properly, there is no way of knowing if there are any feasibility to any of them. At this juncture, wild and wacky ideas are actually helpful even if completely impractical. There may be a nugget or streak of something that will become the gemstone.

 

[BluBayou]

You would be surprised interest in football as gone up over the years especially after Covid with Ron gone and us at the right end of the table we could easily get 8000 9000 at home every week.

Couldn't agree more. I fear Ron's ownership has damaged our perception of what we are capable of. I always thought of Stockport County as a tin-pot 2500 gate club........yet they pulled in 9000 last Saturday. Take a look at the 12 League 1 fixtures last Saturday:

- no gates below 5000
- 8 attendances above 10,000
- 4 attendances above 18,000

Football is leaving us behind. We're still stuck in Ron's narrative.

 

[CRATE]

anyone with a little bit of business know how could run a competitive EFL club with the supporter base that SUFC has ..

Yes, if you can afford to lose £1M a year

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Yes, if you can afford to lose £1M a year

why would a NL club with 3.9m revenue lose a million a year ??

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

why would a NL club with 3.9m revenue lose a million a year ??

If they had costs of 4.9m.

 

[Blues4LifeDan]

With all due respect, what events are going to be held in Scunthorpe new stadium or not the place is a ****hole in the middle of nowhere.

We're a club with an average 6000 in the national league which could easily be 10,000, close to London in a city that's growing in a big big way in terms of size/infrastructure etc.

The problem is, and has always been the who's left our stadium to rot, and if we're not careful will kill our club so yes I'm going to compare other recent sales of English clubs.

This is all down to the and not this nonsense that he's driving as per.

I never claimed that events were help at Scunthorpe, simply that they were easier to buy than us because their stadium and hospitality is nowhere near as bad as ours. That is a fact.

No one is arguing that Ron has let the club and stadium rot on his watch but it doesn't change the fact that our club isn't an easy sell at present. A buyer has to really analyse what they are getting for their money.

I did allude to our amazing fan base but that isn't going to be enough to entice a buyer to part with a hell of a lot of money without an obvious return. Thus far, I can't see where that obvious return comes from.

Let's hope potential buyers can see that and it happens soon .

 

[Jack_23]

Fan run club is a shocking idea so can we all get that out of our heads . And look forward to having new owners in the near future ( we hope)

 

[flangejackrabbit]

anyone with a little bit of business know how could run a competitive EFL club with the supporter base that SUFC has ..

If that were the case, there would be tons of profitable EFL clubs but there are actually very few.

 

[Rayleigh boy]

by the way if fans owned shares in the club and a sheik or a beckham or media group or a lottery winner wanted to buy the club they could ..

all they would have to do is make an offer for the fans shares that is attractive ... so the fans would make profit on their investement ...

If the share offer was to be open to all and any fans where ever in the world they are - we get loads of visitors from the nordics - it would go well in the US ..

i bet Harry Kane would buy a few

 

[Rayleigh boy]

If that were the case, there would be tons of profitable EFL clubs but there are actually very few.

sustainable ... ? FGR

 

[Rayleigh boy]

If they had costs of 4.9m.

why would you have costs at that level ?

............... unless you had someone in charge who .. blah blah

 

[Blue Yonder]

Yes, if you can afford to lose £1M a year

Is that necessary then ? No other possibilities ? All potential buyers have a business plan saying lose 1million a year ?

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Fan run club is a shocking idea so can we all get that out of our heads . And look forward to having new owners in the near future ( we hope)

yeah - i hope we have really nice new owners too ...

BUT ... if all else fails

 

[Shrimper]

why would you have costs at that level ?

............... unless you had someone in charge who .. blah blah

Those are the costs associated with running a football club. To challenge as a team you're looking at a £1.75m wage bill

Then you're looking at £2m a year min to run the stadium

Add another £1m for other associated costs and sudddnly, you're at £4.75m

 

[JWShrimper]

When it comes to finances, I can’t help but have a fairly simplistic view, how do many clubs with much less attendances, season ticket sales and overall income, cope and at times overachieve in the Football League, while we’re bogged down with it all. By this, I mean the likes of Crewe, Accrington, Morecambe, Wycombe, Sutton United etc.

 

[Somerset Ex-TTB]

This club could be run making minimal losses if run properly, no interest, no legal fees, no fines, no late payment fees, no management charges etc etc. all that money the has wasted over the years.

Fan ownership, still stupid.

 

[SuperBlue]

Those are the costs associated with running a football club. To challenge as a team you're looking at a £1.75m wage bill

Then you're looking at £2m a year min to run the stadium

Add another £1m for other associated costs and sudddnly, you're at £4.75m

That wage bill is an average of £1600 a week based on 20 first team players

That is nuts for the national league!

 

[pete boss]

That wage bill is an average of £1600 a week based on 20 first team players

That is nuts for the national league!

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