Student Protests - November 2011

[pickledseal]

It seems the ol' Bill can use plastic bullets:
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I really hope that they don't have to use them, but I guess after London riots and last year's protests they need to be prepared.

It will be a sad day when we have to start using such tactics.

 

[steveo]

Plastic? Disappointing.

 

[Firestorm]

I hope they will be recycleable plastic







Once you have been shot by one you can still ride a bike

 

[Mad Cyril]

Lots of police on Fleet Street.

I hope this doesn't affect my evening commute otherwise I will be very angry.

 

[canveyshrimper]

I think the OB are making a massive mistake in potentially using rubber bullets, warm soapy water ejected from a water cannon would be far more beneficial. In fact if that threat were there I doubt if there would be any demonstrations.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

What the **** have these pampered little tossers got to protest about? 99% of them don't belong at university anyway, as the immortal Judge Smailes once said, 'the world needs ditch diggers too son'.

 

[applelover]

What the **** have these pampered little tossers got to protest about? 99% of them don't belong at university anyway, as the immortal Judge Smailes once said, 'the world needs ditch diggers too son'.

I paid £16k for a degree that isn't worth the paper that its printed on but at least when I left university in 2002 I got a job and have been lucky enough thus far to never have to face unemployment.

These 'pampered little tossers' have no choice other than to go to university because there are no jobs, will pay £30k for their worthless degree and then many of them still won't be able to get work.

I'd say they have plenty to protest against.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

I paid £16k for a degree that isn't worth the paper that its printed on but at least when I left university in 2002 I got a job and have been lucky enough thus far to never have to face unemployment.

These 'pampered little tossers' have no choice other than to go to university because there are no jobs, will pay £30k for their worthless degree and then many of them still won't be able to get work.

I'd say they have plenty to protest against.

There are menial minimum wage jobs available but the non-judgmental, non-competitive school system has convinced them all that they're too good to stack a shelf. If you have no skills, no experience and a minimal IQ, you start at the bottom of the employment pyramid, you don't waste your parents' and the taxpayers' money on a worthless degree. It's the poor saps who make up the productive class who should be protesting.

 

[thewhelk]

I paid £16k for a degree that isn't worth the paper that its printed on but at least when I left university in 2002 I got a job and have been lucky enough thus far to never have to face unemployment.

These 'pampered little tossers' have no choice other than to go to university because there are no jobs, will pay £30k for their worthless degree and then many of them still won't be able to get work.


I'd say they have plenty to protest against.

why MUST you go to Uni?? if you cant get a job?? I didnt have a job at 16 that was worth any salt and Im sure many others dont, but I manage to hold a very profesional job in the City with only one university degree behind me, from the university of Life my friend..

 

[pickledseal]

I'm glad I'm not 16/17. There ain't a lot out there... even menial stuff. It's easy to say get a bottom of the rung job - but how do you live on those wages in today's world? It really ain't like the 'good ol days' anymore.

 

[Kent Shrimper]

Its a ****ing disgrace, my business today has suffered because of these ****wits!! Important clients have been let down because of road closures and the clowns stopping deliverys being made or samples being approved. :angry:

As for the Taxi drivers what the feck have they got to strike about?

 

[* ORM *]

Employers only ask for university degrees these days because a GCSE is no measure of a candidate's worth

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

I'm glad I'm not 16/17. There ain't a lot out there... even menial stuff. It's easy to say get a bottom of the rung job - but how do you live on those wages in today's world? It really ain't like the 'good ol days' anymore.

You can live on those wages if you don't count an iPad as one of life's essentials.

 

[steveo]

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[Hotman]

Employers only ask for university degrees these days because a GCSE is no measure of a candidate's worth

And a degree is?

Being an employer myself, of employees in a field that most would expect degree education - I find that giving staff on the job training and professional qualifications far better than taking on a graduate with an inflated ego and salary requirement. From that perspective, personality and enthusiasm means far more than a certificate.

 

[pickledseal]

You can live on those wages if you don't count an iPad as one of life's essentials.

http://www.crsp.ac.uk/MIS/livingwage.htm

£7.20/hr if you can find full time employment (presume 30+ hrs?)

I bet most 'menial' jobs don't pay this much.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

And a degree is?

Being an employer myself, of employees in a field that most would expect degree education - I find that giving staff on the job training and professional qualifications far better than taking on a graduate with an inflated ego and salary requirement. From that perspective, personality and enthusiasm means far more than a certificate.

You're an employer? Paying people wages? Contributing taxation? Oh you evil capitalist.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

http://www.crsp.ac.uk/MIS/livingwage.htm

£7.20/hr if you can find full time employment (presume 30+ hrs?)

I bet most 'menial' jobs don't pay this much.

The minimum wage for 18 year olds is £4.98 an hour. That's excessive. You don't need £7.20 an hour to survive unless you work for a left-wing think tank. Birkenstocks ain't cheap.

If you work 40 hours a week, you would earn roughly £870 a month. You won't be living in palatial splendour, but at the age of 18, with zero skills and experience, you shouldn't be. You will be able to rent a room, get to work, feed your self, go to the match and have a few pints at the weekend. If you want more than that, then work hard, get experience and you will get more. Don't just sit there bleating about how unfair it all is like some overgrown toddler.

 

[osymandus]

The minimum wage for 18 year olds is £4.98 an hour. That's excessive. You don't need £7.20 an hour to survive unless you work for a left-wing think tank. Birkenstocks ain't cheap.

If you work 40 hours a week, you would earn roughly £870 a month. You won't be living in palatial splendour, but at the age of 18, with zero skills and experience, you shouldn't be. You will be able to rent a room, get to work, feed your self, go to the match and have a few pints at the weekend. If you want more than that, then work hard, get experience and you will get more. Don't just sit there bleating about how unfair it all is like some overgrown toddler.

What utter rubbish Rusty , you've just theorised based on figures.
Amusingly contradicting the spirit of C's post . Eductation allows you to operate in the world , but it is the experience , what your talking about comes from when you did it , when the world was cheaper . There are plenty of people who work in the "black" economy or just above minimum wage who work more teh 40 hours a week and never make it into this ideal you have .

You seem to have little idea of the "real world" then those you criticise .

 

[Cricko]

The minimum wage for 18 year olds is £4.98 an hour. That's excessive. You don't need £7.20 an hour to survive unless you work for a left-wing think tank. Birkenstocks ain't cheap.

If you work 40 hours a week, you would earn roughly £870 a month. You won't be living in palatial splendour, but at the age of 18, with zero skills and experience, you shouldn't be. You will be able to rent a room, get to work, feed your self, go to the match and have a few pints at the weekend. If you want more than that, then work hard, get experience and you will get more. Don't just sit there bleating about how unfair it all is like some overgrown toddler.

That would be the ideal if they lived at home...the problem being there are few jobs out there for youngsters with little or no academic qualifications...in fact there are few for those with degrees.