Some Club Staff Salaries Late/Embargo Chat - now resolved (for now)

[JAL]

Staff weren't being paid before TM came in, even if TM was handed reins, it's quite obvious RM is trying his best to find his way through and steer the ship himself still, and that shows with the staff not still not being paid.

 

[FarmdogSUFC]

Why is RM getting the blame for this (if true), the last time I heard he's stepped back and we now have a CEO who runs the club. I haven't seen his name mentioned.

What

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Staff weren't being paid before TM came in, even if TM was handed reins, it's quite obvious RM is trying his best to find his way through and steer the ship himself still, and that shows with the staff not still not being paid.

I've been saying for years at certain times, that either players, or staff have not been paid. I've said many times we can't afford the basics. Some chose not to believe. Even some accommodation for some players wasn't paid for in the past. We have turned a massive corner mainly thanks to Stan and Tom, but as you know all know, the club is still in a very bad position off the field.

 

[in the know]

Some players who need regular treatments to carry on playing have had to pay out of their own pockets at the private clinics because they refuse to give treatment without funds up front because southend haven't paid bills on time in the past. Treatment isn't cheap and now the players have to try and get the money back from ron!
The club no longer has insurance which is risky but as I understand it, it's not mandatory in the NL. Until RM has access to a decent amount things will probably be like they've been! Nothing Tom can do about it . A few more months yet.

 

[meerkat54]

We as supporters seem too easily to focus just on the team and performance’s.
But all the admin and staff play a vital part in making the club work as a whole.
Don’t know if it’s Ron’s doing or whatever but I hope the staffs outstanding wages are resolved asap. They have bills and financial commitments like everyone else.

 

[Holy Joe]

We've shipped out a lot of high earning playing staff - that may mean the playing staff budget is lower this season than last, and will assist in the cashflow from July onwards.

 

[JAL]

We've shipped out a lot of high earning playing staff - that may mean the playing staff budget is lower this season than last, and will assist in the cashflow from July onwards.

Its not about July's wages though is it, it's about the June wages that haven't been paid, it's about the May wages that got paid very late, etc etc, it cannot keep happening, who's to say they will even be paid on time come July, August, September and so on, we've seen people not get paid mid-season before.

 

[kentblues]

The difference from August is that we will have home league games and revenue coming in. The May to Aug period has always relied on season ticket money- but since that money stopped being released up front the summer period has been dreadful for cash flow. We all know this. So things should improve from August.

Of course we can help by maximising attendance at upcoming friendlies and the home league games in Aug.

 

[WestyReturns]

You don't know if RM isn't meeting his responsibilities.

When I left the Army I joined Network Rail as a Manager, If I wasn't getting paid, the first person I'd look at for reasons why would be my CEO not the Gov....... The CEO holds the purse strings.

RM seems to be an easy target right now, if this is true.

That's the way it should normally work if the CEO has the control of a CEO!

 

[WestyReturns]

The clubs f*cked while Ron owns it because its entangled with a mass of Ron's collection of failing companies. Even if the club was making a lot of money it would be charged back to his other companies so always shown on balance sheet as making a loss.

He's gonna get what's been coming to him soon enough. Unfortunately we may continue to suffer because of it.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Which club staff haven’t been paid?

2 members of my family work there and they have been paid

 

[Holy Joe]

Its not about July's wages though is it, it's about the June wages that haven't been paid, it's about the May wages that got paid very late, etc etc, it cannot keep happening, who's to say they will even be paid on time come July, August, September and so on, we've seen people not get paid mid-season before.

I'm looking at reasons why the wage bill maybe easier to meet from July onwards. And why new signings may not have any impact on the ability of the club to pay wages in June.

As other posters have said we don't even have any evidence wages are late!!!

 

[danbowen]

I'm looking at reasons why the wage bill maybe easier to meet from July onwards. And why new signings may not have any impact on the ability of the club to pay wages in June.

As other posters have said we don't even have any evidence wages are late!!!

its always the same posters too. until there is evidence that this has happened then it should be a non starter of a conversation. I am sure many clubs struggle over the summer months but i remember last month when the embargo bashers were shouting loud that one said he knew numerous staff at the club who hadnt been paid but people who worked for the club and others who had family/friends who worked there said they had been paid too. Its probably all started because Fonguck is training with us but not been made official yet and people are putting 2+2 together and getting 5.

Too many people on here look for all the negatives but are incapable of seeing all of the positives that have happened. There are always going to be bumps along the way at any club/business etc but we are very clearly making improvements in numerous areas and not everything can be changed at once.

 

[henry18]

I can confirm not all staff have been paid on time the same as last month, believe what you want to believe but these are facts

 

[brigg blue]

Which club staff haven’t been paid?

2 members of my family work there and they have been paid

I can confirm not all staff have been paid on time the same as last month, believe what you want to believe but these are facts

Can someone clarify which groups of staff haven't been paid? Is it the groundstaff like last time?

 

[fbm]

I can confirm not all staff have been paid on time the same as last month, believe what you want to believe but these are facts

Can you provide evidence to prove that though?

 

[londonblue]

I can see you are getting exasperated at the unhappy situation we find ourselves in . If its
any comfort I can assure you that the rising tide of anger felt by so many at the club will
be factored into our discussions next Wednesday . Unfortunately , there will always be a few people that are never going to accept anything is actually wrong. They bury their heads in sand and hope the problem will rectify itself without any firm action being taken . The Shrimpers Trust people are highly respected by sponsors for the good work they do but I am not sure they will be able to offer much assistance in actually changing the dynamics of this particular situation .

And as I've asked, and what isn't being answered is what do the sponsors hope to achieve? If you accept the Shrimpers Trust are able to offer limited assistance even though they talk to the club regularly, what do you think will be different? RM is too thick skinned to care.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

Can you provide evidence to prove that though?

Whoever stir up sh*t need to prove it.

 

[Smiffy]

Whoever stir up sh*t need to prove it.

And how would you suggest they “prove it”?

A video message from a staff member?

A screenshot of an unpaid mortgage payment or zero bank balance?

 

[OldBlueLady]

@Shrimperstrust is this something you are aware of and can discuss options for resolution?

We are aware, and are due to have a Liaison Meeting this week (postponed from last). It will be raised, as payment of wages always is at our meetings.

We almost always got from Patrick that all wages were paid and up to date. I expect the same thing this week, but will press harder on the evidence I have heard myself.