Breaking News Season card prices for next season announced!!!

[EastStandBlue]

yet again esb speaks some garbage, firstly paying huge wages is not a guarantee of success look at manchester city, are they going to win the premership?? nope

I never said it guarantees you success, I said there's a direct correlation between success and your wage bill. Don't take my word for it, though, read Why England lose by Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanksi, a journalist and a sports economist respectively. Upon analysing the link between transfer fees and success, they found it bears little relation to average league finishes. Between 1978 and 1997, transfer fees explained only 16% of the total variation in league position, whereas their wage bill explained 92% of that variation.

Your case for Manchester City isn't a particularly good one, as since offering extensive wages they've shot up the league and are going ever-closer to closing the gap between themselves and the top three of United, Arsenal and Chelsea. That, in Manchester City terms, is to be considered a success. If they continue to splash the cash, their wait for a trophy will end very soon.

Of course there are clubs (read: managers) that buck the trend, and you know one of the most successful managers they name for doing so? Paul Sturrock.

yet they pay far in excess of wages of other clubs. you can achieve success on a budget, just look at teams above us in the league, accy, and stevenage to name but 2
yet how do accy survive on crowds of 1,500. perhaps its because the players and the fans and the management are one, ever wondered why dagenham have done so well, just look at jon still, theres your reason. If sturrock was suprised by wages in league 2, then he is even more out of touch than I thought he was. look at the other clubs programmes, when you go to away games presuming you do?? Or do you spend your entire on here?? you will find there are always events happening at the club, ex players functions, celebrating 100 years of this and that , xmas partys , mother day events etc etc. Do southend do anything like that nope!!

The club tried to organise a series of comedy nights. They were cancelled due to a lack of interest. It's all very well organising these events, but if nobody is willing to attend, then they're fruitless.

the occasional shop appearance and bowling with martins family(sorry i meant the trust) is about all we muster. and the reasons for that are 2 fold
1. martins complete distain for the fans and the players 2,. commerical department suffering cut backs, and also lack of any real interest in reaching out the fans
other than take there money off them
through my job i am very closely involved with the politics of football, and you really need to open your eyes esb

try studying bradford citys role model with their season tickets, and the sell ons from additional food and beverage

if teh club cut prices and attracted more fans through the gates, you would find the same sort of revenue genereated. as it stands this move to put prices up to fund the debt owed to gypsy boy and martin through the various companies plain stinks

Beefy's already gone into the Bradford model and why it probably wouldn't translate well here. It's certainly an option if/when the relocation is complete, but when we have circa 8,000 available seats after away allocation and segregation the chances of it being a financial success are narrowed.

 

[CAPTAIN BIRDSEYE]

re man city thats your opinion , doesnt mean its right, man city are a prime example of what money cannot buy success you also quote from a book fine, but of course thats before tilson came along, i think he would be a prime candidate of managing on a budget, as for sturrock, when you can sign nearly 20 players , you must have one hell of budget, presumably, especially as martin is fond of telling everyone we are 7th highest payers of salaries in our division. so your view really doesnt add up.

either that or stevenage, accy shrewsbury must be operating on a hell of a budget

 

[Beefy]

Exactly. If we ever get to a completed FF there'd be a business case for having cheap season tickets like Bradford do. In a tiny ground like ours it's financial folly.

 

[fbm]

Its not so much the increase that infuriates me but the indecent haste to grab our money. I have sat in the same seat for many years and have no intention of losing it. Therefore I have no choice but to renew almost 4 months before the season starts. However this time it will be by instalments so the Club can't spend my money before the end of May. !!!

I don't think that will make a difference. I think that Zebra will "buy" the debt from SUFC so the club get the money up front, and then Zebra recoup the money from you over a period of months at a 9% premium.

If yoiu cancel, you owe Zebra and your contract is with them so the club still get the money.

Personally, if you can afford it, I'd pay in one go and save yourself £30-odd.

 

[bazzashrimper]

Or get a 12 month interest free credit card and stick it on there - pay off a bit each month and you'll save your £30 and be covered in case the club goes bust.

As for some of the other posts on here, I can understand why people are frustrated and angry - so am I - but if everyone did stop buying tickets then the club wouldn't have any cash and would fold. Staying away is a great protest for some things (e.g. the way a rich global company doesn't pay using fairtrade), but not against any company whos main problem is lack of funds.

 

[EastStandBlue]

as for sturrock, when you can sign nearly 20 players , you must have one hell of budget, presumably, especially as martin is fond of telling everyone we are 7th highest payers of salaries in our division. so your view really doesnt add up.

Surely that only reinforces my point?

I don't recall us paying anything concrete for players this season, maybe Barker but even in his case Plymouth were desperate to get him off their wage bill. We are, as evidenced by RM's "Top 7 budget" remark, paying reasonably handsomely for this division and this has helped us coax the likes of Barker to us and helped secure Mohsni on a longer-term deal.

 

[easton8]

There are always exceptions to the rule, some clubs that splash the cash and it doesn't pay off, others that have a tight budget but have a good season. In general the more money you spend on wages the higher the quality of player and the more chance of success.

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

I just want to have a new ground and be competing in the Premiership. Is that too much to ask?

 

[Gremlin]

That's because you sound like a very nice, fence sitting Ron lover!

If someone has decided to love Ron then how would they be "fence sitting"?

 

[Smiffy]

I just want to have a new ground and be competing in the Premiership. Is that too much to ask?

The new ground bit is ridiculous.

 

[BrettieAngell]

The new ground bit is ridiculous.

we might get a 3 sided one if we are lucky!

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

The new ground bit is ridiculous.

Have to admit, I did cross the line on that suggestion.
:blush:

I plan on winning the Euromillions roll over when it's about 80 million and then I'm going to start my own bank and that, then you'll have your rich-fan owner.

EE II EE II EE II OO!

 

[CAPTAIN BIRDSEYE]

so esb who seems to be in know in terms of the clubs payment to players, you cannot have it both ways!! either sturrock is working on a budget or he is not??

if we paid a lot of money to bring barker and billy here, then more fool him not exactly world beaters, and then to take you arguement full circle. why arent we top??

after all sturrock said the squad he had was good enough to get promotion and players had league 1 and championship experience. so whats been the failure in your eye?? and surely you should now want sturrock as he hasnt delivered is promises

 

[Tommy2holes]

I just realised the deadline for the early bird discount or should i say rise is the end of the month. Whats the bets they extend the deadline saying they want to give fans more time , which is code for nobody is renewing.

 

[Fairport]

In that case, might as well make FF a 2 sided stadium?.

Or one-sided like Withdean! It could happen when Ron runs out of money half way through construction (thats if it ever gets started)

 

[Homer]

Or one-sided like Withdean! It could happen when Ron runs out of money half way through construction (thats if it ever gets started)

Might as well move to Southend Athletic Stadum its a shame the throwing area cant be extended to accomondate a pitch
put up some seating like the gills and we are soughted one cheap stadium

 

[sufclee]

I received my pack through the post today and i f you want to pay by installments there is an extra credit charge of £30, therefore in essence your ticket renewal has now gone up by £80, they really are taking the **** now, just seems that the club are deliberately trying to alienate fans.

I have been a season ticket holder for many years but they can shove it right where the sun don't shine, i know you might say it's only £30 but it's just a culmination of everything for me now.

 

[Benfleet Blue]

Still totally undecided on renewing our 3 season tickets. I'm a bit disappointed at the Club's apparent lack of honesty and denial of the existence of the transfer embargo. Yes, we've punched above our weight this season, and I think PS has, given the circumstances, done a wonderful job, but having got to the level we reached, in a crisis situation with injuries and the like, to not be able to bolster the squad with a couple of loan signings was just a total let down. How can so many players have turned us down when we were under an embargo ??

Add to this my son's interpretation of the special offers throughout the season it probably is touch and go whether the season ticket saves any money at all, only guaranteeing you your regular seat. And for this we have to pay up, basically in full, at least 4 months before the season begins.

I understand wages have to be paid during the close season but really feel let down by the clubs lack of honesty and dare I say it, ambition. Touching distance of the play offs and then advised that so many players won't sign, which really should read, can't sign because of the embargo.

Ricky Duncan has done a great job but quite truthfully, if I wanted to watch a team made up mainly of youth players, then I wouldn't have to buy a season ticket to do so, I think it's free.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I received my pack through the post today and i f you want to pay by installments there is an extra credit charge of £30, therefore in essence your ticket renewal has now gone up by £80, they really are taking the **** now, just seems that the club are deliberately trying to alienate fans.

I have been a season ticket holder for many years but they can shove it right where the sun don't shine, i know you might say it's only £30 but it's just a culmination of everything for me now.

Paying by instalments has always been more expensive hasn't it?

Best way to do it is by applying for a new credit card and taking advantage of the introductory offers. Sainsburys* offer one for existing Nectar customers with 12 months 0% on purchases (you can get longer, but you should try and pay it off in a year as you'll want to renew the following year).

Just use the card the once to pay for the season ticket and then don't use it again. You then pay off £32 each month.

*If they are paying for the new ground, they may as well also pay for you to watch at the old ground as well.

 

[Hooly]

Paying by instalments has always been more expensive hasn't it?

Not much recently no. For the last few seasons since they started retaking DD's it has been £5 or £15 per transaction & by transaction that meant as many cards as you were paying for with the same payments.

So last season I paid for 2 season tickets by DD & paid a total of £605. This season 2 tickets by the same method are apparently £763.

Sorry, but that's poor. Make it a fair comparison. Which is the £50 rise. Comparing last years flat rate with this years rate plus an installment charge, you are merely seeking to make the scandalise the announcement further. Why not say compare last years flat rate plus installments, compared to this years flat rate, I reckon, without doing the maths, the increase would equate to less than one match. But that's not as scandelous, so why would you?

So taking adding my poor maths to the class that's a rough increase of 26.115702479339% approximately, in roundabout figures. That's quite a lot for 1 match Charondded or is my calculation wrong too? Your financial advice will be much appreciated.