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Will you renew


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I will renew mainly because I get to the majority of games and good or rubbish Southend are my team, and it makes life so much easier not having to have the hassle of getting tickets for each game. Where I sit in south upper most of those around me are st holders and they are a great bunch so I would miss that if I had to move. Anyway what else could I do on a saturday afternoon.
 
This whole thing saddens me.

My decision not to renew is not one which shows dis-loyalty, it is a gut-wrenching decision that I and many others have been left with little other option but to make. We will still support the Club come what may and go when we can, but staying away without the pull of the ST taking us there out of habit if nothing else in such times means that it is more difficult to go when there are other family commitments and you no longer have the ST card to play.

God this is awful. Ron, Tara, you are complete clueless XXXXXXX.

UTB, always
FWIW this is the same decision that I made at the end of last season. Not renewing is very hard, but once you make the decision it is surprisingly liberating. You love the club as you always have & will, but you take back control. I have missed 4 home games this season so far and have gone to 4 away games this season. I don't feel conned by Ron anymore as I have no contractural tie with the club and can now decide whether I want to attend each match or not. As I attend with a group of friends some of which are STHs, the rest of us either buy in advance if we are definately going or leave it to the day if we're undecided.
Despite the poor quality of football served up generally I am much more relaxed this season. The increase by £3 for single tickets next season will tip the balance on me not attending perhaps a couple more games (when it's a miserable day in winter & we're mid table!!).
 
FWIW this is the same decision that I made at the end of last season. Not renewing is very hard, but once you make the decision it is surprisingly liberating. You love the club as you always have & will, but you take back control. I have missed 4 home games this season so far and have gone to 4 away games this season. I don't feel conned by Ron anymore as I have no contractural tie with the club and can now decide whether I want to attend each match or not. As I attend with a group of friends some of which are STHs, the rest of us either buy in advance if we are definately going or leave it to the day if we're undecided.
Despite the poor quality of football served up generally I am much more relaxed this season. The increase by £3 for single tickets next season will tip the balance on me not attending perhaps a couple more games (when it's a miserable day in winter & we're mid table!!).

Interesting... can you explain why you feel that way? I don't know if you paid your season ticket up front or in instalments but if it was the latter, your contract isn't with the club. Maybe I've misunderstood? Or is it that with a season ticket you feel obliged to go as you've bought it anyway? It just strikes me that you've paid as much this year as you would have done anyway, so your money has gone into the coffers regardless. I can't work out why you don't feel as conned anymore.
And next season, if we miraculously have a good one and are near the top, if you decide to attend more games you'll be putting more money into the club, or into his pocket, depending on what your viewpoint is.

I just don't see the difference.
 
Interesting... can you explain why you feel that way? I don't know if you paid your season ticket up front or in instalments but if it was the latter, your contract isn't with the club. Maybe I've misunderstood? Or is it that with a season ticket you feel obliged to go as you've bought it anyway? It just strikes me that you've paid as much this year as you would have done anyway, so your money has gone into the coffers regardless. I can't work out why you don't feel as conned anymore.
And next season, if we miraculously have a good one and are near the top, if you decide to attend more games you'll be putting more money into the club, or into his pocket, depending on what your viewpoint is.

I just don't see the difference.

i think it's because you're choosing to go, not feeling obliged to go just because you've got a Season ticket which i think a lot of people have felt.
 
I think it will be a struggle. But if RM is desparate for the money to keep the HMRC off our backs, what will no-one buying ST's actually achieve - the club out of business? It's not an easy time to support the club, but it is probably an important time.

Well i couldn't get a seaso this year and at the moment I can't next season.
 
The increase in prices isn't a problem for most season card holders it is the comment about monies being made available for the manager to invest in players that troubles me.

War-chest anyone ?

Spot on here Ken - I am probably going to renew and the hike isn't too much of a problem, but the comments about investment leave a sour taste... I would much have preferred RM to come out and say "we need the extra money to cover costs", but that would be out of the question I guess as it would require him to honest about things for once....!
 
Yes, but most people on here who are complaing about the rise, are stating that they don't want the money going to Ron. Yet if we are at the top of the table, they'll all come flooding back, and thus paying more to Ron than they would by buying a season ticket.

There seems to me to be an awful lot of people on here throwing their toys out of the pram, and using this as yet another stick to beat Ron with, when the reality is that the clubs skint (which we all know), and they are just reversing the decision made last season to reduce the ST price. We haven't had a significant rise in ST prices for 4 years, is it so much to ask that people cough up another £2 per game.....
 
Interesting... can you explain why you feel that way? I don't know if you paid your season ticket up front or in instalments but if it was the latter, your contract isn't with the club. Maybe I've misunderstood? Or is it that with a season ticket you feel obliged to go as you've bought it anyway? It just strikes me that you've paid as much this year as you would have done anyway, so your money has gone into the coffers regardless. I can't work out why you don't feel as conned anymore.
And next season, if we miraculously have a good one and are near the top, if you decide to attend more games you'll be putting more money into the club, or into his pocket, depending on what your viewpoint is.

I just don't see the difference.
Flying Scotsman has answered already - I have chosen to go rather than feeling obliged to go. As for next season if we are near the top and playing well then I will no doubt go to more games and it would have been better financially to have bought a ticket, but I will happily pay more for that success. The issue I have is being committed to paying up front, albeit at a discounted rate, when I have little confidence that the person I have given the money to is using to invest in the quality of the team I would then be committed to watch regardless. If we were that good at Christmas then I would consider a half season ticket if the price was discounted slightly and I knew I would be attending all the games.
 
Yes, but most people on here who are complaing about the rise, are stating that they don't want the money going to Ron. Yet if we are at the top of the table, they'll all come flooding back, and thus paying more to Ron than they would by buying a season ticket.

There seems to me to be an awful lot of people on here throwing their toys out of the pram, and using this as yet another stick to beat Ron with, when the reality is that the clubs skint (which we all know), and they are just reversing the decision made last season to reduce the ST price. We haven't had a significant rise in ST prices for 4 years, is it so much to ask that people cough up another £2 per game.....

The irony is that there is another post running alongside this moaning about the level of player we are trialling, saying it's too low, and taking the moral high ground when we didn't invest in players to support Sturrock's play off drive, but when asked to support these investments they so desperately clamour for, (£2 per game or 5/6 per month on DD) there's uproar.

I despise Ron as much, if not more than the next fan, I do not trust him, I think he treats the fans appallingly, and I want him out of the club as soon as possible, but only if it's not to the clubs detriment. If we all take Wiggy's stance and boycott the club, then we'll have done far more damage than Ron ever did, as there will not be a club anymore.
 
I am interested to gauge if any of you would feel any different of your original decision to buy/not buy your season ticket, if the players are not paid tomorrow their March wages?
 
This whole i will pay whatever it takes to follow my team attitude is a joke.

Couldn't have put it any better mate. If there was a mass boycott, not just at SUFC, but all over the country, clubs would be forced to lower prices. Unfortunately, the clubs up and down the country know they can pretty much do and charge what they like, as there'll always be someone there.

And before anyone reel out that old classic of "you'll kill the club by boycotting", how's about the man in charge, does what he's meant to do, and run the ****ing club properly? If he hasn't got the financial power to sort us out, stop being an egotictical prat, swallow some pride and get outside investement.

But we know that won't happen, because Martin is a greedy, grubby little weasle.
 
I am interested to gauge if any of you would feel any different of your original decision to buy/not buy your season ticket, if the players are not paid tomorrow their March wages?

Is this speculation or have you "heard" there maybe further issues with the players salaries?...

Of course any further problems will have an impact. It is crucial that the club pays the staff on time from now on. Especially during the Season Card renewal stage. Any whiff of issues again, will spell trouble...
 
Pay only by credit card.If the club goes bust,you are protected by consumer law,and you are entitled to receive pro rata monies back.Paying by debit card,cash or instalment ,you will join the list of creditors !! Uncle Ron and Brady are being cheeky.The prices next season will be towards the top end of comparision prices,as they were in div 1 and last season.The only thing i will say in Rons defence is that the PFA members (players) have to be more realistic with their demands.My guess is within five years,the football industry will not be flavour of the month and clubs will be bleeding monies and looking to restructure the leagues etc.
 
Spot on here Ken - I am probably going to renew and the hike isn't too much of a problem, but the comments about investment leave a sour taste... I would much have preferred RM to come out and say "we need the extra money to cover costs", but that would be out of the question I guess as it would require him to honest about things for once....!

I think this maybe what a lot of supporters are complaining about. If Martin was upfront with fans, and said i have no choice but to put prices up, so that we still have football team to support, many maybe could understand it, but when coats the rise with this will enable us to buy better quality players next season,he imo treats fans as mugs, as most on here have a good idea where any extra cash will go.
 
Is this speculation or have you "heard" there maybe further issues with the players salaries?...

Of course any further problems will have an impact. It is crucial that the club pays the staff on time from now on. Especially during the Season Card renewal stage. Any whiff of issues again, will spell trouble...

Spoke to a couple of friends last night who are concerned - some of the staff were expecting March's monies last Friday - so tomorrow is definitely pay day, they hope!

If the club is as foolish as to issue ST prices for the new season in the same week as not paying their staff/players then I would be absolutely stunned - however, nothing with this club surprises me any more!

My question was whether or not those 'hardened supporters' who will buy their ST no matter the cost etc, would actually change their minds if once again the staff and players are left potless this month?
 
Yes, but most people on here who are complaing about the rise, are stating that they don't want the money going to Ron. Yet if we are at the top of the table, they'll all come flooding back, and thus paying more to Ron than they would by buying a season ticket.

There seems to me to be an awful lot of people on here throwing their toys out of the pram, and using this as yet another stick to beat Ron with, when the reality is that the clubs skint (which we all know), and they are just reversing the decision made last season to reduce the ST price. We haven't had a significant rise in ST prices for 4 years, is it so much to ask that people cough up another £2 per game.....

...but we have had two relegations in that time too. This season has been like paying top dollar for a show in the West End & instead of getting the star act, you get the understudy. Consider also that up until this season, the £380 we had been paying was the huge increase the club levied for promotion to the CCC. It was not reduced after relegation, so they have enjoyed the high ST prices for a few more years than is acceptable.
 
My question was whether or not those 'hardened supporters' who will buy their ST no matter the cost etc, would actually change their minds if once again the staff and players are left potless this month?

I doubt us 'hardened supporters' would change our minds because we physically can't stop ourselves from going!
 
If he hasn't got the financial power to sort us out, stop being an egotictical prat, swallow some pride and get outside investement.

He already has - his name's Tara, he's from the City, and he's got contacts in the City, dontcha know? :winking:

Except it turns out they're pretty much two peas from the same pod, all mouth and no money, at least not enough to keep this club on an even keel.

Our other "outside investment" is of course Sainsbury's but they're only here for the Roots Hall land and if Ron doesn't get this deal going sharpish one senses they're not too far off calling time on the whole affair as well.
 
He already has - his name's Tara, he's from the City, and he's got contacts in the City, dontcha know? :winking:

Except it turns out they're pretty much two peas from the same pod, all mouth and no money, at least not enough to keep this club on an even keel.

Our other "outside investment" is of course Sainsbury's but they're only here for the Roots Hall land and if Ron doesn't get this deal going sharpish one senses they're not too far off calling time on the whole affair as well.

Which of course the Chairman can't afford to let happen.Cue an announcement, at the AGM, of yet another date for building work at FF to begin this summer,methinks.
 

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