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15 pages of moaning on shrimperzone and yet no one wants to let Ron know their problem. Some would rather give up watching their football club than do something about it. That is entirely their choice of course.

Whilst i can afford the price increase it pains me to see many fans unhappy about this. I suggest a petition or protest against the clown owners decisions. Maybe a statement making certain demands from fans sent to Ron or XXXX ammount will not renew season tickets.



I have made my feelings clear to Mr Martin in person when i wasnt happy after being told a few things by him which didnt happen but one voice does not make much difference to him. Thousands would!!!


had correspondance with him this morning telling him how i feel and with money tight not sure wether i will renewing next term i received several replys to my question he confirmed that Tara Brady had meeting with several supporters Groups to discuss prices for next season the zone denying this that only leaves the trust and after listening to craven on BBC Essex tonight thansk guys for your imput
 
its better than being a coward when challenged to air your views person to person at a away game .....................oh i forgot you did not turn up

Don't remember that, never agreed to turn up anywhere, what you on about?
 
It isn't just the price of the ticket, as compared to others it isn't that bad. I think its the increase from £300 (they were probably too cheap this year), and more importantly its the lies, spin, and complete lack of investment in the team over the last 2 years.

The trust has been completly eroded over that time, we got relegated with a top 10 league one team due to lack of paying wages etc. and this year with a tiny and I mean tiny bit of investiment in the team at the right time, we could of made a good challenge for the play offs.

That's 2 seasons totally effected by the investment in the squad being a tiny proportion of the clubs income.

If we could be guranteed, the level of investment in the squad comparable to the size of the club, not be let down mid season with court appearance, late wages, HMRC winding up orders, then £350 isn't that bad, and I would probably pay it.

As it is, then they can get stuffed.

fwiw which is prob not alot, i feel the same apart from the last sentence where i will say i am still undecided.
 
We all know whats going to happen. Ron is desperate for this money to keep the HMRC off our backs. The money for Luggy will be ZERO, Mohsni, Hall, Grant likely to leave (maybe some more) and the youths will plug the gaps and it will be a real struggle. I predict we will not make a single signing in the summer. Call me foolish but that is my gut feeling. After two successive seasons of wage problems, court appearances, it is not surprising that 43 (and then some) players turned us down. Yes we got some in the summer but most of those were on the scrap heap and no doubt hoodwinked by Rons talk of promotion and the new stadium. Both those dreams are dead in the water.

Agreed 100% I'm afraid.
 
Don't remember that, never agreed to turn up anywhere, what you on about?

wiggy you slagged me off on this forum and you was supposed to be travelling to a away game i few years back now and i suggested we meet up so you could put your view acoss seem to recall the game was probaly Leicester but you never showed up what a surprise spouting your rubbish on here but not willing to meet face to face at the time
 
Perhaps SZ should release a statement or write an email/thread on behalf of those not represented by the Trust, especially considering Tara's claim that he spoke to supporterS groups. Even though I am a Trust member, I don't agree with what the Trust has said in its statement. Yes prices were expected to go up & losses recovered, but because TefRon has scared off every possible outside investment other than Tara, so us cash cow supporters are the ones expected to bail him out.
 
Perhaps SZ should release a statement or write an email/thread on behalf of those not represented by the Trust, especially considering Tara's claim that he spoke to supporterS groups. Even though I am a Trust member, I don't agree with what the Trust has said in its statement. Yes prices were expected to go up & losses recovered, but because TefRon has scared off every possible outside investment other than Tara, so us cash cow supporters are the ones expected to bail him out.

How about SZ release a statement for the fans that don't consider they are represented by the Trust statement (which going by most of the previous posts on here is most fans). Then again SZ is not blinded into agreeing with the club by the hope of a seat on the board of SUFC.
 
Perhaps SZ should release a statement or write an email/thread on behalf of those not represented by the Trust, especially considering Tara's claim that he spoke to supporterS groups. Even though I am a Trust member, I don't agree with what the Trust has said in its statement. Yes prices were expected to go up & losses recovered, but because TefRon has scared off every possible outside investment other than Tara, so us cash cow supporters are the ones expected to bail him out.

Tara is not a outside investor his is owed money by RM by all accounts so his just here to collect his monies when the stadium moves forward so apart from Sainsburys Bankrolling the club there is nobody else around at this time and in this present climate i doubt there will anybody around to take on the Debt of this Great club of ours
 
This whole thing saddens me.

There are so many reasons why not to renew, and despite what I said in a post earlier on this thread my gut is churning at the thought of not renewing after all these years and I really do want to renew - despite the financial issues I would find the money from somewhere if it came down to it.

But I just can't get over the fact that after a sustained period of utter boll ocks from Unc Ron and with the 99% prospect of much worse to come I just cannot justify renewing either ruled by heart or head. We are not unused to behind the scenes mistrust at Roots - but Ron takes the pi ss, drinks it and asks for more.

Further, and this is the really sad part, there is just no way that a 10% hike makes any financial sense whatsoever. Never, and how the Shrimpers Trust thought that any such uninventive approach would lead to anything else but more financial ruin is beyond belief. It is like we are on a downward spiral that won't stop, less ST sales means less income means poorer players means lower league position means lower income means ,,,,,,,,,,, It would not take a genius to stop this self perpetuating destructive spiral - just reach out Ron, confess, stop the rot, take actions that show the supporters you care (and who without you face financial ruin), and from there watch the Club take-off on a renewed wave of optimism that is just waiting to burst out if only you had the sense to see it.

Like a player who fails to put effort in for a game they only have to play once or twice a week I fail to see why the SUFC powers that be, with only SUFC to focus on, cannot see common sense. What world are they living in? All the bankers support London premiershite - I suspect the number of SUFC fans who have seen a 10% increase in earnings over the last year is negligible, instead I suspect that most like me have seen a take home pay drop in real if not in hard cash terms over a sustained longer two/three year period. BBC's Panorama programme can be a bit sensationalist at times, but what it spouted out last night was real, I work with all sorts of companies from all sorts of areas, and if anything the economic financial downturn is greater than what they portrayed. Has someone taken away all access to media so that they all think they are living in the relative boom times of 2006? Unreal.

My decision not to renew is not one which shows dis-loyalty, it is a gut-wrenching decision that I and many others have been left with little other option but to make. We will still support the Club come what may and go when we can, but staying away without the pull of the ST taking us there out of habit if nothing else in such times means that it is more difficult to go when there are other family commitments and you no longer have the ST card to play.

God this is awful. Ron, Tara, you are complete clueless XXXXXXX.

UTB, always

Excellent post.
 
Hmmm. I will renew because supporting SUFC is something I do with my teenage son (a la Fever Pitch) and the Family Stand deal still represents excellent value. However, I do understand the depth of feeling here. The most worrying thing for me at the moment is that Sturrock couldn't get any player to agree to come to us on loan. I don't see how we can sustain a playoff push next season if that continues to be the case. If, as it seems, the main reason for this is our reputation, then we really are in trouble and are unlikely to survive without new ownership. I wouldn't blame Sturrock if he walked away - I can only imagine the frustration he must feel.
 
most of the posts on here are full of emotion which is totally understandable. A couple of facts/opinions to throw into the debate.
As I recall last year when we were mid table the club announced prices would go up 10% if we went up, and would go down 10% if we were relegated. I don't recall posts saying this was ridiculous , 10% for going down was not enough.

I also don't recall anyone moaning when the 10% decrease became a 20% drop- this seems to have been totally forgotten, and is IMO very important to this thead.

Its not the clubs fault VAT has gone up by 2.5%

Some people think that cheaper prices would result in more tickets. Im not so sure. The club is selling tickets for £3.00 for an adullt and child (yes £3.00). Has it made a massive change to attendences , I don't think so . The club has these figures and wil know how sucessfull this has been /has not been. So based on this what else should the club do ?

The press release on the website is awful, I don't think anyone can defend it- its patronising and there is no better weay to alliernate your customers than to patronise them (again) . If it was more honest and spoke to the supporters hearts how many people might have a different view on the matter?

Well said. A 10% increase on its own would have raised concerns but it's the fact that they reduced prices so much and are reverting them at the same time makes it seem even worse. Our prices were very cheap this year and obviously club feel not attracting enough people to make up for it. However if attendances do drop then might be a big own goal...
 
The increase in prices isn't a problem for most season card holders it is the comment about monies being made available for the manager to invest in players that troubles me.

War-chest anyone ?
 
The increase in prices isn't a problem for most season card holders it is the comment about monies being made available for the manager to invest in players that troubles me.

War-chest anyone ?

I think you're spot on. I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford the increase (I'd rather not pay more but I want to support my club) - but what guarantees do we have that monies raised would be used to improve the squad? and how likely is it that we will be able to attract anyone in the light of the 43 players that turned us down this season?
 
Every one who isn't renewing disapoints me, okay so the season tickets gone up but for the exitement and the sheer fact its southend makes 390 pound seem peanuts too me. Call your self true supporters and your moaning about 390 pound for a whole season, you sicken me. Call your self true supporters? Then prove it!

That is the most gullible post i have ever read.

So going on your idea . When Ron doesn't invest in the team again next season and we are still playing league 2 and he increases the season card again by 10-15% at the end of the season, then we should all pay regardless or we are not a real fan.

Not only is that music to a ****taker like Ron martins ears it just means he can get away with holding the clubs fans to ransom.

People like you are the reason that alot of clubs have priced there own fans out of coming to watch there team.

This whole i will pay whatever it takes to follow my team attitude is a joke.
 
The increase in prices isn't a problem for most season card holders it is the comment about monies being made available for the manager to invest in players that troubles me.

War-chest anyone ?

Exactly that Ken, far be it from me to doubt the word of our beloved leader, but to claim monies would go into a transfer pot for the manager is IMO spurious at best.
 
The increase whilst a little disappointing is an understandably reaction to the financial difficulties that the club are in at the moment.
Like a number of other people I would have been delighted to see the club try to attract more fan’s with a cheaper season
ticket deal like Bradford City thus gaining the obvious benefits of a bigger crowd but in reality that is probably a better option
when the club has a more positive vibe that around Root Hall at present.

The new early purchase price of £350.00 for season tickets will make us at the top end of cost’s for this division but these
price’s should be judged to a degree geographically so with League Two having so few Southern club’s that is no surprise.

There are too many reason’s not to renew for me to list as well as the fact it would be very depressing but for those that choose
not to buy a season ticket for the sake of an extra £50 I just hope you are not the same poster’s that are moaning about the club not
spending thousands of pound’s on new player’s.

So for me yesterday’s ‘ I am still unsure ‘ vote has changed to a yes albeit with not so much enthusiasm as in some other season’s.

UTB
 
I wonder if the TV licence went up £50 or your council tax what would you all do then?

FFS all these people saying I have supported the club all my life but I won't set foot in Roots Hall again at these prices. What do you think the club us going to do drop the prices? What in your daily lives hasn't gone up? Has your petrol? Has your food bills? Your utilities? It's the way if the world. Inflation is running almost 5% and this is a struggling business.

A £50 rise whilst painfull equates to what £2.20 a game? I dispise Ron Martin as much as the next man but at the end if the day this is our club, this is for many if us a major part of our lives and for many if us something like it or not your comitted too for life. Everyone was clammering for a seat in the Championship but many don't want to know now. The club to me needs all the support it can get at a tricky time for us all. I assume you all love this club like I do so surely £50 extra is worth all the fun and enjoyment you have had over your lifetime? For me I'm simply delighted to still have a club to support.
 
How about SZ release a statement for the fans that don't consider they are represented by the Trust statement (which going by most of the previous posts on here is most fans). Then again SZ is not blinded into agreeing with the club by the hope of a seat on the board of SUFC.

i think that was pretty much what I was suggesting.

I see that Ken & Harry have probably read my post other afterwards suggesting that SZ releasing a statement denying any consultation with the club & that we don't agree with the price increase/level of increase.

IF SZ are not prepared to do this would they allow us to write a thread on here or here to that effect that we can add to & send to the Evening Echo. If we do this, any comments saying TefRon is a Banker will be deleted, as we need to be taken seriously. I know we all hate TefRon, but we need to be shown as a True Voice of the supporer, along with the Trust.
 
The price rise was mentioned in passing to myself (Do I count as a Supporter Group?) during a non-related telephone call, with one of the club's hierarchy.

At which point I said it probably wouldn't go down too well and for good reason, but I think after a storm, most would begrudgingly accept the rise (I only knew about £350 Season Cards, not Matchday Prices) But positive moves need to happen off the pitch. Re: Players contracts being extended, FF action, players coming in etc. Trust needs to be re-built in a big way.

I also emailed and spoke in great detail about the "£150 Season Card" idea that I came up with a couple of week's back - HERE. But unfortunately the club's Financial Dept. did not think it was viable. Which is a great shame, as I believe it would of worked a treat.
 
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