Rep points? Who cares lol!!!!!!!

[Interpol Shrimper]

Actually I think Kev was referring to the organised Neg repping, which I think he is correct on. So no need to be so coarse about it, please remember it is a family forum. ;)

Edited to a more appropriate word but meaning the same! :p

However if people want to positive rep someone why cant they?

I never said they can't. See my reply to Einstein for a more detailed point of view about how I feel on this.

Also I think you find the Rep system was not about after the Man Utd game.

I never said it was, I know for a fact it wasn't. My point of view, is that she has received countless "backdated" green reps for her last post from early November!

 

[callan]

Is there a rep table?...how do you see it?

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

Is there a rep table?...how do you see it?

Go to Members List, and sort the listing by reputation.

 

[callan]

Go to Members List, and sort the listing by reputation.

Cheers matey.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Maybe you want to sort by date as well and see how many of SZFC are in the top 20 as well.

Anyway I have to dash as I have just finished work and now heading to join in the celebrations of Kev's 21st.

 

[MrB]

Quality thread.

Positive rep for all!!

 

[Kent Shrimper]

KS - you are true without SZ.com we would not have SZFC as we took the name. However this is not to say the same thing would not have happened on another forum, for instance SZFC II started life on the Official Message Board when a couple of lads decided to start representing SUFC in matches against other Anglian teams. After a few games they started to think about becoming a Sunday League team. This is when SZFC stepped and suggested them becoming part of SZFC as they started the way we did and that we had a good structure in place.

The whole associate member fee is about raising funds, so rather than what does it give me, it is more for those who cannot commit to playing but want to help the club out, thus what can i do for the club.

So if we were to give Mike Honorary membership should we also hand it to the Scriv, FM13 , Mad Cyril and anyone else who was involved in the Zone at the time of the infamous game between the under and overs of this forum?

In my opinion Honorary membership should be awarded to people who have given something to that organisation and such the organisation want to recognise this and give them something back.

As ive said i think the associate member fee is a great idea as it is a unique way of raising funds.

I suppose my suggestion of giving Mike honoray membership was so that maybe this situation could be resolved, as i understand it Mike and Scriv set SZ up many moons ago (Im sure i will be corrected if wrong). If this is the case then i would say that yes why not give them both honoray membership as there wouldnt be an SZFC with out SZ, which in turn actually answers your last point about rewarding people who have given something to the cause.

Anyhow im sure your all big enough and ugly enough to resolve this yourselves.

Oh and Happy birthday Kev :finger:

 

[Davros]

true... however, giving something to the cause should, IMO, be something more direct..

For example, when the tour was organised last season, we didnt use the SZFC bank account, and Einstien took control of all the financial side of things, and made all the payments out of his own personal account at his own risk, which probably cost him more than a tenner in lost bank interest...

That is the type of thing that deserves honourary membership...

Would you say that we should give all SUFC players and staff etc free membership, as if there was no SUFC, Theyd be no SZ or SZFC...

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

Without trying to take sides, as I'm neutral on this subject, isn't forming a website giving something to the cause?

I've no idea how much time Mike spent on this site, along with Scriv, but I'd wager it took some work. Money you can gain back, time you can't.

Having said that, I don't believe that having helped found a site, Mike should have irrevocable life membership. He passed the site on, and whilst his efforts should be remembered, and rewarded, it is no longer his site. personally, I'd, were I to be a new owner, have offered honorary life membership, and the forum equivalent of a "seat on the board". However, this would only be for life assuming that the same rules were kept to as for normal members.

It's a shame that it's come to this, and, whilst not fully subscribing to the clique theory, I have to confess sometimes to feeling a bit of an outsider on here, though thats down to me knowing very few members offline. I'd say that there's nothing here that couldn't be sorted out over a beer or two between some of the more mature members, though thats a bit of a problem with Mike living abroard. Maybe it's just time for everybody to take a step back, and try to see things from the perspective of others, who knows? Whatever the solution, lets all just kiss (erm, shake hands) and make up, and prepare ourselves to combat the common enemy (Other teams, Not CSJ!)

 

[JoshC]

if you dont like negative rep then turn your rep off. i find it quite funny the remarks i get when being jokingly repped (although pram blokes confuse me a little) and other serious rep i find interesting to see what others think.its only a red dot its nothing evil it wont hurt you, if people want to form groups for negative repping (not saying this happens) then let them.

also the SZFC forum, why do people care about this? its their place where they can talk about their team and talk tactics why would you want to see that? if they have their own area and money is payed to allow access then thats fine, if your so bothered about the goings on around shrimperzone fc then pay a tenner and you can join cant you.

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

pay a tenner and you can join cant you.

and get Einsteins bank details into the bargain apparently :p

 

[Pubey]

in the end.. has the rep been more bad than good??? i'm not sure to be honest. there is a lot of moaning about it and i can honestly say that probably 80% of my neg rep has come from SZFC... im not sure if this is a clique, or that they just use the rep more for good and bad rep... or whether i've upset someone on szfc. in the end i like playing footie and am looking to get started again next season after playing at uni the last 4 years... and am interested in joining SZFC, as im sure other posters are. so perhaps SZFC may want to look at how their members need to realise that their repping habits may effect the name of the team, and that they have a responsibility as members to uphold their mission (i assume) to be a friendly welcoming footie team from the SZ community.

i feel the mods and owners do really well in being careful and taking responsibility for their posts (and i assume they can't post as completely freely as well do) and 'maybe' the SZFC members also need to appreciate that they have to uphold the name of SZ and when lots of rep is coming just from that direction then it isn't going to cast them in a good light


i dont know any of the SZFC lads personally... but im looking forward to meeting them as i want to get playing. i bet they are all quality lads and that the rep issue isn't really about bullying but more that they all use the system a lot more than the rest of us. however i would perhaps suggest that mike is granted an associate membership (i mean i would be willing to donate to a fund just so he stops whinging!!) and also i would suggest that SZFC have an offical line about their actions on this board and also ask members to respect that rep giving can be frustrating for non-szfc members... especially when it doesn't seem to have any direct link to the posts in question.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

I suggest people take a look at my latest rep giving.

It is amazing that the people who proclaim to not care about rep are the ones constantly moaning about it.

To me rep is nothing, what is something is that I am father to two great kids and no matter what rep people give you cannot take the kids or their love away from me!! So get a life people and realise Rep is jack but love is everything!!

Happy Fathers day to those who are as lucky as me!!

 

[Cricko2]

The Hot Potato thread.



It seems to me having read through the above quotes there are very few ways of resolving this ongoing dispute.

Personally I think that as SZFC pay for the privilage or choose to donate £10 to there cause they have every right to a seperate area of this board to discuss relevent issues to there team. It is quite simple if anybody wants to access that area, donate or pay your £10 and "Bobs your Uncle".

As Far as the Repping is concerned. It is after all meant to be Fun and a way of giving credit or stating that you disagree with a post without having to type it in the main forum. This Forum is about mixed views on alot of subjects but we would be a boring bunch if we agreed on everything and we all have differing opinions apart from One, which is we all love SUFC.

The Mrs B issue and I would state here I have no axe to Grind towards her Personally and Mr B did me a few favours last year so I count him as a Mate.

Although there was no repping system in place when the 2 posts were added to the forum last year it does seem odd that some 6 months later it was decided to send her soaring up the charts. This WITHOUT doubt was a choice taken by members of SZFC to show appreciation for her post but was done
systematically as was the Newest member With 8 posts.

As Bob has pointed out If you go by date alot of the SZFC members have been here longer than most but I dont think that has any relevence on Today's Board as we have new members joining each day and I'm sure some leaving. All Of the Members Of SZFC, as Einstein pointed out are good mates and banter amongst themselves as any bunch of close lads would. But I guess those people (and I dont include myself in this as I am relativly new) who have posted several thousand times, but see the top of there board dominated by people from a seperate area of the board and have no idea what they are discussing feel "seperate" This makes it a two tier system and open for abuse and not an even playing field.

The Rep system is a good laugh and I would hate to see it go as Nobody would insult me anymore and visa versa :p. Maybe it would be possible for the SUFC area of this board to have a seperate repping area for topics that the general Zoners are not maybe even interested in, or are not willing to stump up the HUGE £10;) to satisfy there curiosity.

I dont see how without abandoning the whole Rep system it can work any other way. I Feel they have a right to whatever reps they wish to give to those amongst there "Clique" ( see I got that word in eventually :hilarious: )

But it should be within there own Area and not the Public domain so's to speak. I am sure the Mod's will have great fun sorting this lot out at the next meeting.

End of Sermon .........Oh and Happy Fathers day to those of you that are Dad's out there.

John.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Well, that goes against what you said above so you should withdraw that accusation.

Eh?! Where did I say that it SHOULD have started?! ;)

SZFC acknowledged there was accusations of "bullying", however did not agree with them. Therefore, as SZFC are an extremely good bunch of lads and could not be bothered with any hassle, "red repping" was soon stopped to ensure the good name of SZFC was not tarnished. On a personal note, I rarely "red rep" anyone these days, so I cannot have the allegation thrown at me by the likes of you! Probably about 3 times in the last 3 weeks - no doubt you have made more than that yourself!

I have so much NEG rep that I rarely bother now.

Considering you were accused of "being in bed with the club" as you put it a few days ago on another thread, I am surprised you actually try and accuse SZFC of being a clique.

clique /kleek/ n. small exclusive group

There's a difference. We didn't exclude anyone when we were accused of "being in bed with the club". We worked damn hard to make sure that ShrimperZone remained independent, even when the site was threatened with legal action from the club's solicitors. If we hadn't stood our ground then there is a good chance that ShrimperZone (and therefore SZFC) might not have been around now.

As a result of the sarcasm and accusations of bullying directed towards the SZFC Lads, they decided they wouldn't really hit the 'red' button anymore and hit the other button towards each other. They just wanted to point out their sarcasm of a clique, and prove that if you want to accuse them of being a clique, then they could do a much better job than they were doing previously. Having so many members at the top proves they have done exactly that, and still you whinge. They couldn't win whatever they do, however at the end of the day, if they are going to be accused of being a clique, then they might as well be.

Or they could have just left it alone. Their subsequent actions have proved even more that there exists a SZFC clique ...

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

I think that maybe as an olive branch SZFC give Mike as a founder member of SZ a honoury membership to there forum?

Thanks, KS, but I don't expect or want an honourary membership. I just want to ensure that the restricted forum is not abused ...

 

[Cricko2]

if you dont like negative rep then turn your rep off.

That is a facility that is only available to the Mods Josh.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

And as for membership and founding members of SZ.com, I don't see Scriv on here every five minutes moaning about it. If he was that bothered, having met Scriv, he would just stump up the tiny amount of ten pounds to become an associate member help the SZFC coffers and their suvival. Mike is just trying stir up trouble within the SZFC ranks. Unfortunately it doesn't really work because as you have seen, myself, The General and Bob Cratchitt have been quick to group together too and protect the reputation of SZFC, which Mike is so obviously trying to destroy.

Incorrect - I am not trying to destroy the reputation of SZFC; they are doing quite well on their own and don't need any help. What I am doing is ensuring that a restricted forum is not abused to the detriment of the whole of the ShrimperZone community. I have said so many times that your username probably needs changing, Glen.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

In my opinion Honorary membership should be awarded to people who have given something to that organisation and such the organisation want to recognise this and give them something back.

I totally agree.

I hope Unc got one ...

;)

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

also the SZFC forum, why do people care about this? its their place where they can talk about their team and talk tactics why would you want to see that? if they have their own area and money is payed to allow access then thats fine, if your so bothered about the goings on around shrimperzone fc then pay a tenner and you can join cant you.

You've missed the point. The restricted access to the SZFC forum was being abused when members of SZFC embarked on a systematic campaign of 'neg repping' selected members of the SZ community; it was a simple case of bullying. They claim that they have ceased such activity but I'm yet to be convinced.