Rep points? Who cares lol!!!!!!!

[Angell Delight]

thats slander, right who do i sue?

Address all letters of complaint to the "SQ Clique" :D

 

[Einstein]

Yes. Despite the fact that they take the ShrimperZone name, they charge £10 for normal members of the SZ community to access their forum ...

FFS Mike. Give it a rest. You sound pretty pathetic when you bring this up every single week. £10 is not just for forum access and you god damn know that as well. It is one of the many benefits an SZFC Associate Member receives. If SZFC can raise any extra funds by having a membership scheme then good on them. Most Sunday League clubs struggle financially so there are very few established clubs in the Sceptre League. I'm sure Kenny can confirm that there are very few who have actually surpassed 10 years as a club too. I've played for four Sunday Mens teams, one folded at the end of first season as costs spiralled out of control, two folded after two seasons for the very same reason. I know the manager of one of those teams, pumped so much of his own money into it, he started actually having personal money difficulties. SZFC are the only club that has lasted beyond that period and soon to enter it's 4th season. While also still being very well run and at present, to my knowledge, no real financial difficulties because of how well run the club is by having successful schemes like Associate Membership etc. Do not try and slur the name of SZFC or their schemes because you are still bitter about SZFC.

Comments like that, which at the end of the day, is insulting to everyone involved in ShrimperZone FC, leaves little left to the imagination why you actually have very little respect from the SZFC Community. I respect many of your views when it comes from being in the Army, supporting the Shrimpers, moving to Spain as an expat, however when you cross that line of slurring the name of SZFC it gets everyones backs up and you know that as well.

If you want to drive the SZFC lads off of the ShrimperZone forums altogether then by all means keep it up. Look at the longest established members from this board and many are still involved with SZFC, take them away then ShrimperZone will become a much quieter place. Your comments about how it costs £10 just to access our forum is complete cr*p. We've been over this thousands of time, but if you are going to slate SZFC every time it comes up then you will certainly get a public over the top reaction out of me protecting SZFC's interests. Additionally, let it be known that apart from organising the SZFC tour to Amsterdam, I have had very little involvement with since moving. They are just a terrific bunch of lads, and an extremely well run football club and I do not want a one man crusade to jeopardise that reputation on these forums. However, I'm more than prepared to state publicly what I think of your SZFC views, rather than accessing our 'members only' section and slating you behind your back.

It actually appears to me that you would actually be pleased if SZFC did hit financial difficulties and went bust purely because you are still bitter four years after them not wanting you as manager or chairman while still having a grudge against certain members of SZFC. If people actually truly knew that on these boards then hopefully your SZFC comments would just be completely ignored. Keep your comments to SZFC comments to yourself and you might just find yourself a much more valued and respected member of these boards in the eyes of the SZFC community.

Long live SZFC.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

First of all, I should point out that I did NOT want to be manager or chairman and I don't know where you get that bucket of baloney from; why would I when I was moving abroad just a few months after the club was formally inaugurated?! It would have made no sense! If you are going to come back with such pathetic retorts, then do your homework. Am I bitter? Of course not; why should I be?!

Secondly, SZFC does not help itself by having a so-called 'clique' which so obviously abuses their right to a private forum and subsequently the reputation facility. So, on one respect you are right: I have NO respect for the SZFC community when they gang up and bully over members of the SZ forum. You can't say it doesn't happen because it does; a simple browse through the reputation tables proves that. It may be a bit of fun to the 'clique' but they have taken it a step too far - as most bullies tend to do. A one-man crusade? Well, it would seem that the 'clique's' own repping crusade is hardly enhancing the reputation of ShrimperZone FC.

I look at SZFC's fixtures and results every week when I can (mainly using the Sceptre League website because this information is often restricted to me and others) and, contrary to your opinion, I DO want the club to do well. I was present at the loose formation of the club in 2003 and watched them from the sidelines during the shaky period of crushing friendly defeats before they were formally accepted into the Sceptre League (after I left the UK for Spain; again, this doesn't follow your accusations of bitterness!) I have great respect for the team and what they have achieved in the past three or four years. I have NO respect for a pathetic 'clique' that is threatening it - not me ...

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

And am I surprised Mike? I knew Leeboy would jump straight to the "gaffer's" defence lol Seems you're also a victim despite again being a well-respected member of this board - I'd take it as a compliment mate.

No surprise from me - only that they can continue to claim that there is no 'clique'. Interesting to note that the top 12 members in terms of reputation are SZFC - and 13 in the top 20.

 

[The General]

Well said Glen. Mike is talking out of his ****/looking for a bite ( from his first post, i should add, well, he has got one! ) as the £10 fee has been invoked since day one of the club. This allows people to come along to all social events, christmas bash's, end of season's partay's, play in the under's/over's game and generally be a part of SZFC. This forum has been around for a year (which we are very grateful for) after we asked for a private section so we can discuss team tactics etc... during the season without anyone looking in (e.g opposition manager's etc ...) but if they were to pay the £10 assoc fee, then it could be a £10 well spent!

We will soon be running OPEN trials so anyone can come along and be part of SZFC. We will be having 2 teams next season, SZ1 in Div 6 and SZ2 in Div 9( see t'other forum) and people will have the chance to play for us. Look out on the "open board" for more details within the next month or so.

Alot of hard work has gone on behind the scene's since the club has formed, from the likes of MrB, Leeboy, Shagster, Bob Cratchitt, Myself, Dave, ORM, McNasty, Napster, Barry Harris and they will all tell you how much work goes into the club!

If anyone has any questions etc... then feel free to PM me and i will help with anything i can!

:)

Kev

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

This forum has been around for a year (which we are very grateful for) after we asked for a private section so we can discuss team tactics etc... during the season without anyone looking in

I have no problem with that; it makes sense. But why do the 'clique' abuse that restriction to gang up and bully other members of the SZ community?! We have still had no answers ...

 

[The General]

I have no problem with that; it makes sense. But why do the 'clique' abuse that restriction to gang up and bully other members of the SZ community?! We have still had no answers ...

That happened, albeit very briefly, and we stopped after some people got a bit touchy about it! Angel Delight is a good friend of Stats' and thats something between them and its onyl a light-hearted thing!

:)

P.s Plus MTS told us off! Made some nasty threats so we listened to the voice of wisdom!

;)

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

It shouldn't have started in the first place ...

 

[Uncle Leo]

It shouldn't have started in the first place ...

What? SZFC? Seems harsh.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

What? SZFC? Seems harsh.

Droll. Very droll!

;)

I mean the abuse - and I don't see any sign of it having stopped though ...

 

[Jay_Shrimper]

And I still havn't seen an answer as to why it started in the first place....

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Exactly Kev. Angel Delight and Statski77 are good mates and love to wind each other up as well as others. I am sure they both could tell you the of times when they have stitched each other up or lost bets and ended up doing some embarrassing forfeits.

So this post has been done to stir things up a bit which of course is easy to pull off on here or any other forum.

Yes there was a bit of coordinated repping by some of the guys, but this has stopped, after people realised how emotional people where about the feature and the negative feeling created by the actions towards ShrimperZone FC.

For the record the owners of the site have access to the members only Clubhouse area and will definitely ensure that it is not used to detriment of SZ.com as I do for SZFC.

Now I hope this is the last time I am having to post on this subject.

 

[Einstein]

It shouldn't have started in the first place ...

Well, that goes against what you said above so you should withdraw that accusation.

SZFC acknowledged there was accusations of "bullying", however did not agree with them. Therefore, as SZFC are an extremely good bunch of lads and could not be bothered with any hassle, "red repping" was soon stopped to ensure the good name of SZFC was not tarnished. On a personal note, I rarely "red rep" anyone these days, so I cannot have the allegation thrown at me by the likes of you! Probably about 3 times in the last 3 weeks - no doubt you have made more than that yourself! I should note one of those 3 was to Angell Delight who I know is a good friend of Statski's who's Stag Do I am now organising, if Angell Delight is in attendance I will be looking forward to meeting him! :flamer:

As stated by The General, Angell Delight and Stats are actually extremely good friends and have been for years. Angell Delights posts were such blatant sarcasm against Statski/SZFC it's untrue!! The same with Yorkshire Bambi, he is currently the "worst respected member of ShrimperZone". He isn't "bullied" - I've known him since I was a toddler and could walk and he would be revelling in delight if it was the other way round :D So, it works both ways when you point at the top, why not point at the bottom too eh? Considering you were accused of "being in bed with the club" as you put it a few days ago on another thread, I am surprised you actually try and accuse SZFC of being a clique. I find it hilarious to be honest, are you not allowed to have friends on this board? What about at work? Or school? Were you not allowed to hang around with the same group of lads at either in case you were accused? What about in the Army? What happened if you saw one friend 3 times a week, but didn't socialise with another? Were you then accused of bullying?!! Stupid eh? :flamer:

As a result of the sarcasm and accusations of bullying directed towards the SZFC Lads, they decided they wouldn't really hit the 'red' button anymore and hit the other button towards each other. They just wanted to point out their sarcasm of a clique, and prove that if you want to accuse them of being a clique, then they could do a much better job than they were doing previously. Having so many members at the top proves they have done exactly that, and still you whinge. They couldn't win whatever they do, however at the end of the day, if they are going to be accused of being a clique, then they might as well be. :flamer:

 

[Kent Shrimper]

I think that maybe as an olive branch SZFC give Mike as a founder member of SZ a honoury membership to there forum?

Mike would then be aware of what goes on and be better informed?

Im sure there is a solution to this crazyness

 

[Einstein]

I think that maybe as an olive branch SZFC give Mike as a founder member of SZ a honoury membership to there forum?

That's not for me to decide, as it's down to the SZFC Chairman and Committee. However, he created ShrimperZone.com, he did not create ShrimperZone FC and they are two separate entities. ShrimperZone.com is obviously the 'holding' entity if you like, but SZFC is still separate. It's a private board for a reason, like tactics, organising of SZFC social events etc. Mike's argument is that this should be public. I'll give him another example. There's an Amsterdam Tour thread in there, I organised and I trust all the guys in there enough to put my bank details on there for them guys to pay into. Would I have done that if it were public? Absolutely not. Mike's argument for it being made public just does not fit.

And as for membership and founding members of SZ.com, I don't see Scriv on here every five minutes moaning about it. If he was that bothered, having met Scriv, he would just stump up the tiny amount of ten pounds to become an associate member help the SZFC coffers and their suvival. Mike is just trying stir up trouble within the SZFC ranks. Unfortunately it doesn't really work because as you have seen, myself, The General and Bob Cratchitt have been quick to group together too and protect the reputation of SZFC, which Mike is so obviously trying to destroy.

 

[Kent Shrimper]

That's not for me to decide, as it's down to the SZFC Chairman and Committee. However, he created ShrimperZone.com, he did not create ShrimperZone FC and they are two separate entities. ShrimperZone.com is obviously the 'holding' entity if you like, but SZFC is still separate. It's a private board for a reason, like tactics, organising of SZFC social events etc. Mike's argument is that this should be public. I'll give him another example. There's an Amsterdam Tour thread in there, I organised and I trust all the guys in there enough to put my bank details on there for them guys to pay into. Would I have done that if it were public? Absolutely not. Mike's argument for it being made public just does not fit.

And as for membership and founding members of SZ.com, I don't see Scriv on here every five minutes moaning about it. If he was that bothered, having met Scriv, he would just stump up the tiny amount of ten pounds to become an associate member help the SZFC coffers and their suvival. Mike is just trying stir up trouble within the SZFC ranks. Unfortunately it doesn't really work because as you have seen, myself, The General and Bob Cratchitt have been quick to group together too and protect the reputation of SZFC, which Mike is so obviously trying to destroy.

Just trying to help, and maybe someone has to be the bigger person and step back. There would be no SZFC is there wasnt a SZ.com, so to say its a seperate entity is a litte rich. Although i appreciate its run as a seperate entity. All im saying is by giving Mike access to that Forum then maybe bridges can be built between SZFC and him, maybe your point will be proved?

I think the Associate membership of the £10 is a great idea and have been part of a Borough Com side that had to continually come up with ideas to raise cash so i do appreciate where you/they are coming from.

All i am saying is give peace a chance ;)

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

KS - you are true without SZ.com we would not have SZFC as we took the name. However this is not to say the same thing would not have happened on another forum, for instance SZFC II started life on the Official Message Board when a couple of lads decided to start representing SUFC in matches against other Anglian teams. After a few games they started to think about becoming a Sunday League team. This is when SZFC stepped and suggested them becoming part of SZFC as they started the way we did and that we had a good structure in place.

The whole associate member fee is about raising funds, so rather than what does it give me, it is more for those who cannot commit to playing but want to help the club out, thus what can i do for the club.

So if we were to give Mike Honorary membership should we also hand it to the Scriv, FM13 , Mad Cyril and anyone else who was involved in the Zone at the time of the infamous game between the under and overs of this forum?

In my opinion Honorary membership should be awarded to people who have given something to that organisation and such the organisation want to recognise this and give them something back.

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

That happened, albeit very briefly, and we stopped after some people got a bit touchy about it! Angel Delight is a good friend of Stats' and thats something between them and its onyl a light-hearted thing!

:)

P.s Plus MTS told us off! Made some nasty threats so we listened to the voice of wisdom!

;)

Kev, sorry mate but that's total & utter rubbish.
Just look at the rep tables, detailed above, the stats don't lie.
Also, look at why Mrs B is in the top 12 despite having only posted twice since she registered & not since the week after the Man Utd win (with her entertaining story about her point of view about Mr B's infamous & very committed trip back from holiday for the game).
It's rather sad what some members of your squad are doing if you ask me.
I hold no ill-will to SZFC, why should I, being an unfortunate exile they're way off my radar!

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Actually I think Kev was referring to the organised Neg repping, which I think he is correct on. So no need to be so coarse about it, please remember it is a family forum. ;)

However if people want to positive rep someone why cant they?

Also I think you find the Rep system was not about after the Man Utd game.

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

SZFC acknowledged there was accusations of "bullying", however did not agree with them. Therefore, as SZFC are an extremely good bunch of lads and could not be bothered with any hassle, "red repping" was soon stopped to ensure the good name of SZFC was not tarnished. On a personal note, I rarely "red rep" anyone these days, so I cannot have the allegation thrown at me by the likes of you! Probably about 3 times in the last 3 weeks - no doubt you have made more than that yourself!

Not strictly true, my last few "red reps" have all been from a SZFC direction. I was one of the other three then, still at least we've now hopefully agreed to disagree on Mr Foran!

As a result of the sarcasm and accusations of bullying directed towards the SZFC Lads, they decided they wouldn't really hit the 'red' button anymore and hit the other button towards each other. They just wanted to point out their sarcasm of a clique, and prove that if you want to accuse them of being a clique, then they could do a much better job than they were doing previously. Having so many members at the top proves they have done exactly that, and still you whinge. They couldn't win whatever they do, however at the end of the day, if they are going to be accused of being a clique, then they might as well be. :flamer:

Maybe so, but & I hate to use the term, "clique" have gone far too much of the other way with saddo, all boys in this together backslapping, look at my example of Mrs B in my reply to Kev above, plus also one of your new recruits for the coming season who went on the trip to Amsterdam has posted a total of 8 times on here but has over 75,000 rep points!

Hopefully as MtS & Uxbridge have been made aware of the concerns of some of the regular non-SZFC posters about this issue, a suitable amnesty or other amicable solution can be found at the next mods meeting! I hope though that as suggested the rep function will not be turned off, I think it's a fun feature of the new board & (when used sensibly) can be extremely valuable!