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I wouldn't say it's pointless. Protesting absolutely can work, and absolutely can have its place......and still might yet in our situation. People can do whatever they feel they need to do, and whatever makes them feel better. Free country and all that. I've protested, and the Trust has backed and attended protests in the past. They have their place.

I think people need to get away from thinking Ron Martin will react predictably, or like a normal person would, to protests. I don't dispute the line that the family dislikes them, and dislike their bad guy images......and you might expect somebody who is wired normally to do what they know will stop the protests.

Unfortunately, instead of thinking "I'll bring this all to a close now in order to stop these protests that I don't like", he blames other parties in the deal for them, and uses them as an excuse to move slower on an action, or to go back on something he's verbally agreed to, or to no-show a meeting because he "fears for [his] safety"..... all out of spite and all as a power play. That then affects the negotiations and their speed because everybody needs him in the room and fully focused on the task at hand.

Stop treating Ron Martin like a normal person who reacts predictably to things. He's not. He's unpredictable and volatile. Short of physically escorting him to the table and holding a gun to his head whilst he signs the deal, there is very little that we can do in terms of protesting outside his or his family's properties to make him do the right thing.

The council is pulling as many levers as it possibly can to get a deal through in time, that will pass all of the subsequent milestones. It is a labour, time and resource-heavy process for all involved parties, and as difficult as it is, they need to be left to it for the moment.

It's a shame we couldn't get supporter group unity, but it is what it is. Everybody wants unity when that unity is behind their desired action, but you can't force people to agree. It's football, and you'll probably find that 99% of club's fanbases across the country don't all have internal agreement on every decision and course of action to do with their club.
 
Lock down changed the dynamic of socialising anyway. And you say this but look at the poor pathetic numbers that turn up to the protests. They don’t affect Ron. He doesn’t care. It’s embarrassing in my opinion. What will be will be. Life is too short anyway.
I knew you were a wally when you mentioned Lock Down... Life's to short if you sit in front of the news all night scared.. get out meet people and enjoy it
 
I wouldn't say it's pointless. Protesting absolutely can work, and absolutely can have its place......and still might yet in our situation. People can do whatever they feel they need to do, and whatever makes them feel better. Free country and all that. I've protested, and the Trust has backed and attended protests in the past. They have their place.

I think people need to get away from thinking Ron Martin will react predictably, or like a normal person would, to protests. I don't dispute the line that the family dislikes them, and dislike their bad guy images......and you might expect somebody who is wired normally to do what they know will stop the protests.

Unfortunately, instead of thinking "I'll bring this all to a close now in order to stop these protests that I don't like", he blames other parties in the deal for them, and uses them as an excuse to move slower on an action, or to go back on something he's verbally agreed to, or to no-show a meeting because he "fears for [his] safety"..... all out of spite and all as a power play. That then affects the negotiations and their speed because everybody needs him in the room and fully focused on the task at hand.

Stop treating Ron Martin like a normal person who reacts predictably to things. He's not. He's unpredictable and volatile. Short of physically escorting him to the table and holding a gun to his head whilst he signs the deal, there is very little that we can do in terms of protesting outside his or his family's properties to make him do the right thing.

The council is pulling as many levers as it possibly can to get a deal through in time, that will pass all of the subsequent milestones. It is a labour, time and resource-heavy process for all involved parties, and as difficult as it is, they need to be left to it for the moment.

It's a shame we couldn't get supporter group unity, but it is what it is. Everybody wants unity when that unity is behind their desired action, but you can't force people to agree. It's football, and you'll probably find that 99% of club's fanbases across the country don't all have internal agreement on every decision and course of action to do with their club.
A sensible post, I thought these were rapidly becoming a thing of the past!
Well said.
 
It's the same deal as always over protests. If you think it's the right thing to do, then do it. If you don't agree, for whatever reason, then don't. It'd called freedom of choice.

Giving posters stick for not acting is counter productive as I've yet to see any improvement in attendances because of it (yeah, I have attended them at Benfleet). Conversely, quoting interested parties requests on here against protests cuts no mustard with would be protesters. So, like I say, do as you think right.
Bump.
 
This.

I went last night, but I still disgust myself that I've probably only been about 6 or 7 times, I haven't done enough. It might not get to Martin, but it certainly gets to his family, and I will take solace in knowing I've helped to cost him a good few grand in security fees and have made him stay out all day. It will help me sleep a little easier.
Isn't the club paying the security costs? Pretty sure it was reported on here that is was at one point - so likely not costing Ron a bean.
 
I knew you were a wally when you mentioned Lock Down... Life's to short if you sit in front of the news all night scared.. get out meet people and enjoy it
Wally yeh ? Ok then go and protest everyday if life is too short. See what happens. I will save you time and answer it for you. NOTHING. Chill out
 
Wally yeh ? Ok then go and protest everyday if life is too short. See what happens. I will save you time and answer it for you. NOTHING. Chill out
Thank god for people like you who are totally up for making a stand to change the world for the better.

Its the likes of you "get up and go" "fire in the belly" types that give me hope in all of this madness.

I suspect Ron is grateful for you too.
 
Thank god for people like you who are totally up for making a stand to change the world for the better.

Its the likes of you "get up and go" "fire in the belly" types that give me hope in all of this madness.

I suspect Ron is grateful for you too.
Cool story bro.
 


Southend Fan Protest Group
@fan_southend1

If you're looking to us for protests, don't bother. We told you this would happen and only a minute few most committed were willing to apply pressure where neededGood luck looking to @Shrimperstrust to drive protests forward instead of writing some performatively posted letters
Let me state that i have the utmost respect for all the protests you've arranged & attended. FWIW one of your members has been a very good friend of mine for around 54 years, & we still keep in touch regularly.
Only my opinion, but the days & times of your protests aren't exactly convenient for many of us & full credit to those who made the effort to attend.
Not intending to be critical, but imo tonight's meet at Leigh station 6pm was vague?. Where were we going, left, right or where-ever?.
I hope the meet at Camden is a success tomorrow, but it's to far to me to travel on a Saturday morning.
 
Let me state that i have the utmost respect for all the protests you've arranged & attended. FWIW one of your members has been a very good friend of mine for around 54 years, & we still keep in touch regularly.
Only my opinion, but the days & times of your protests aren't exactly convenient for many of us & full credit to those who made the effort to attend.
Not intending to be critical, but imo tonight's meet at Leigh station 6pm was vague?. Where were we going, left, right or where-ever?.
I hope the meet at Camden is a success tomorrow, but it's to far to me to travel on a Saturday morning.
You’re a good lad you’ve done your bit
 
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