Promotion and relegation 2019/20 season

[Westcliff DGS]

Oh, I don't disagree. And you can't promote/relegate teams based on what might happen with 10 games left.

And yes, it is all down to money. And football, with an absolutely HUGE amount in the game (most of it at the very top) is showing itself up to be the grubby, corrupt sport that unfortunately it is.

Nope you cant I agree

the only way if they end the season is say do avareage point as per game and finalise the table on that, most teams are unlikely change positions, they’re will be some but it won’t affect most positions. However that wont be acceptable for some. YOu could even still do the playoffs over a week then if they really wanted too. That way the still keep the same amount of teams up and down as per normal.

Wont happen though

 

[camden shrimper]

If people are worried about legal cases if we go back to playing too soon and someone dies whilst on 'club duty' on pitch or off then is when people will really 'lawyer up' and dwarf things they are worried about in missed revenues from not being promoted etc.

 

[Fairport]

Until social distancing ends how on earth can a game of football be played?

 

[Chrisb]

How on earth can they think that the season be completed behind closed doors - even if all players are tested they would then have to live together for the duration of the matches being completed, presumably in a hotel, where staff would have to also be resident. All refs and officials, club medical staff and backroom staff would also have to live apart from their families. It would only take one person to become unwell then the squad would be isolated, together with squads from clubs they had recently played - however would that possibly work? Surely people's lives cannot be put on the line in order to complete the season just so as not to have legal issues.

 

[ace]

And using thousands of needless virus testing for these games when they are needed elsewhere. Ridiculous.

 

[camden shrimper]

I feel like it's going to take a prominent player passing away or a club just saying that they won't be seeing out the season before the league snaps into action sadly

 

[Westcliff DGS]

I think most clubs, chairman, players and fans in L1 and L2 believe the season should be ended, it is just how is that done. Natuarally clubs will put their own interests first so there will not be an agreement, so this will play into the EFL’s / FA’s hands. The FA will want to follow UEFA’s guidelines as much as they can so they will delay, the last thing they will want is an issue and maybe no team sin europe if the league is not decided on sporting merit (guess you cant have that if you void the league).

It will come down to common sense and sadly UEFA, EFL, EPL, FA, PFA and some nationwide supporters bodies do not seem to have any so that they can come to a sensible common sense approach where they all put the differences aside for just this one time.

 

[Medway Blue]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1254755799005618177

So that’s their club captain, a first choice striker, their first choice right back and another regular starter.

They won’t be the only club in L1 and L2 to have to do this....far from it.

As if playing behind closed doors wasn’t awful enough, how is resuming the season and playing the remaining games with clubs chasing promotion or trying to escape relegation missing key players, and with stupid rule changes like 5 subs available to be used, any better for sporting integrity than voiding the season? If it’s resumed at any level with things like that happening, then the record of this season will be forever tainted. So just void the damn thing and wipe it from the record books.

 

[Voice of Reason]

I honestly believe that it would be a disgrace if football started up any time soon. The Premier league is driven by money and greed is king. They use the excuse it is for public morale but who wants to watch matches in an empty stadium. Let everything settle down and then think about football

 

[kentblues]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1254755799005618177

So that’s their club captain, a first choice striker, their first choice right back and another regular starter.

They won’t be the only club in L1 and L2 to have to do this....far from it.

As if playing behind closed doors wasn’t awful enough, how is resuming the season and playing the remaining games with clubs chasing promotion or trying to escape relegation missing key players, and with stupid rule changes like 5 subs available to be used, any better for sporting integrity than voiding the season? If it’s resumed at any level with things like that happening, then the record of this season will be forever tainted. So just void the damn thing and wipe it from the record books.

An interested read. In simple terms Col U and many other clubs will be releasing many players who are out of contract and the season would be played out with some drastically weakened teams- dependent on whether you had already played the most weakened or not you will or will not gain a big advantage. So much for the integrity of the game. Goes to demonstrate why the season can't go beyond June 30.

Clubs in a stronger financial position are going to have a significant opportunity to strengthen- surely not being able to play new signings this season?..yet as of July 1 players will be free agents who can be signed outside the window...what a mess.

 

[Pak Power]

And if the season were to continue now, would those four players, go in for 50/50's busting s gut for Col U knowing they are likely to be released. Would Col U play those four players?
Or would they play their hearts out looking to get a contract elsewhere?

If more clubs follow this line, then surely the season can't be finished, for this and many other reasons.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

And if the season were to continue now, would those four players, go in for 50/50's busting s gut for Col U knowing they are likely to be released. Would Col U play those four players?
Or would they play their hearts out looking to get a contract elsewhere?

If more clubs follow this line, then surely the season can't be finished, for this and many other reasons.

I took it that they would release them as at 30/06 so for me unless they ave something lined up they would do there best to earn a contract elsewhere. That’s the professional thing to do, if the season does restart (unlikely i guess but taking what he says in the statement) then i guess they wouldn’t play

 

[camden shrimper]

I took it that they would release them as at 30/06 so for me unless they ave something lined up they would do there best to earn a contract elsewhere. That’s the professional thing to do, if the season does restart (unlikely i guess but taking what he says in the statement) then i guess they wouldn’t play

That's how I read it too. Players are professional and I think would give 100% in almost every instance, if they weren't professional they are more likely to find a way to not be selected to play.
This is very frank and honest from Col U and should be applauded.
The lack of direction from the government and/or league is not helping at all.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

That's how I read it too. Players are professional and I think would give 100% in almost every instance, if they weren't professional they are more likely to find a way to not be selected to play.
This is very frank and honest from Col U and should be applauded.
The lack of direction from the government and/or league is not helping at all.

Yep he should be, cant believe i am praising Colchester lol

 

[kentblues]

I took it that they would release them as at 30/06 so for me unless they ave something lined up they would do there best to earn a contract elsewhere. That’s the professional thing to do, if the season does restart (unlikely i guess but taking what he says in the statement) then i guess they wouldn’t play

If you are going to play beyond 30/06 you would want at least a 1 year contract- imagine getting a serious injury first week July otherwise- sure no way would the player or agent agree

 

[camden shrimper]

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If you are going to play beyond 30/06 you would want at least a 1 year contract- imagine getting a serious injury first week July otherwise- sure no way would the player or agent agree

You'd think not but equally they will be keen to show off to prospective other clubs looking to sign players. In reality though - are clubs going to be buying at our level. Being out of a contract, for once, feels more of a curse than a blessing unless you are ridiculously in demand.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

If you are going to play beyond 30/06 you would want at least a 1 year contract- imagine getting a serious injury first week July otherwise- sure no way would the player or agent agree

Are there rules on loan players or month contracts that might be swerved to fit these odd "out of season" possible games?
It is time a few chairmen took the decisions process in hand and started forcing some sense from the EFL.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Are there rules on loan players or month contracts that might be swerved to fit these odd "out of season" possible games?
It is time a few chairmen took the decisions process in hand and started forcing some sense from the EFL.

According to the Col U chairman a majority want to finish the season so that won’t force their hand

 

[Ex-SouthendUnitedEmployee]

Nearly every business is having to adapt to changes, and football will be no different.

It's most likely Football will be behind closed doors until at least 2021, but it has to go on and adapt.

Get the football on online streams, use iFollow as a season ticket to raise revenues, look at ways you can encourage commercial revenue, through advertising on iFollow etc and also retail revenue... Catering is the one that will suffer and cooperate.

The only tricky area clubs could find is finding shirt sponsors when marketing spend is most likely the first thing that companies have chopped.

Companies are all preparing ways to return back, but they are preparing on ways they can serve people to their homes, rather than inviting them to come to their premises.

It's being clever on how businesses will do this, in order for them to survive.

 

[camden shrimper]

Nearly every business is having to adapt to changes, and football will be no different.

It's most likely Football will be behind closed doors until at least 2021, but it has to go on and adapt.

Get the football on online streams, use iFollow as a season ticket to raise revenues, look at ways you can encourage commercial revenue, through advertising on iFollow etc and also retail revenue... Catering is the one that will suffer and cooperate.

The only tricky area clubs could find is finding shirt sponsors when marketing spend is most likely the first thing that companies have chopped.

Companies are all preparing ways to return back, but they are preparing on ways they can serve people to their homes, rather than inviting them to come to their premises.

It's being clever on how businesses will do this, in order for them to survive.

This isn't an attack but behind closed doors costs money for a club of our size, it doesn't raise it. If we were the only club playing at the time there is a curio interest argument but we aren't a lure to anyone outside of the fans of the teams playing. The majority of those who would traditionally pay are season ticket holders who will be given free access. This argument is compounded further by illegal streams and the fact that profile games will be marketed like crazy as that's where the TV companies monies are tied up.
There's being clever as a business and there's a limitation to what's feasible to raise the revenue required to just break even. It's an us and them scenario, we simply don't have the demand / audience.
I follow has proven to not work with minimal take up too so I wouldn't be over reliant on that.
You are talking about all the areas I'm working in, very few have money to spend on sponsorship, and those who do can call the shots, it's a buyers market, that and we are so far down the pecking order.
I don't have the answers but behind closed doors is not it.