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Could big Sam really do any worse than Hodgson? WOuld he have had kane taking free kicks, or the utter defensive shambles that led to the Iceland goals? No he wouldnt. He also has been shown to get the best out of players under him, something which Hodgson failed to do. But more than a new manager is needed. We win 10 games in a row in qualifying, beat Germany and Portugal in friendlies, then stink the tournament out- why? The players are too pampered, treated like robots, given scripts in interviews, hidden away in the hotel. They looked so miserable most of them. We also lack leaders, but this is not necessarily the managers fault, he can only pick what is out there. The pool of talent is ever shrinking for any England manager.
 
Could big Sam really do any worse than Hodgson? WOuld he have had kane taking free kicks, or the utter defensive shambles that led to the Iceland goals? No he wouldnt. He also has been shown to get the best out of players under him, something which Hodgson failed to do. But more than a new manager is needed. We win 10 games in a row in qualifying, beat Germany and Portugal in friendlies, then stink the tournament out- why? The players are too pampered, treated like robots, given scripts in interviews, hidden away in the hotel. They looked so miserable most of them. We also lack leaders, but this is not necessarily the managers fault, he can only pick what is out there. The pool of talent is ever shrinking for any England manager.

Yes, he could.

He might not qualify for the world cup. He might lose to Wales. He might not qualify for the second round.

When was the last time any of his players at Bolton, Blackburn, Newcastle, W*** H** or Sunderland gave an interesting interview? And it's not the manager they are afraid of but the media. He's not going to make the players less worn out after a long season.
 
Jam_man.i think all English clubs should try and bring through-bring on young English players,especially English managers.
Big Sam MOANS about the England team being managed by a foreign managers,Prem league best jobs go to foreign managers,but all he does is bring in foreign players!!!
Not only that,as a time Europe-world football is going foreward playing football on the ground,like Barca,Bayern,Dmund,etc..we go for a manager(maybe??) that goes for long balls,hard !!tackles!! flying elbows.."get stuck in lad".We go backwards,again...i dont think the refs will allow what he gets away with in England.
 
See in the Sun today Phil Brown thinks Sam will be a good Englabd manager. Think he -Phil - is after getting on the coaching staff!
 
When ever you see him,he is chewing gum!!
He has always wanted to be England manager,but has he brought any young English players through??i cannot remember any?
Always got older,proven foreign players,too many to name...but cannot think that he has improved many,if any young English players.Can you??
Im not sure,but i think every?? club he went to,other than the mighty Notts co,were pleased to see him go..Blackburn,WHU,NUFC,....never won a thing,i find it strange....but he is not yet manager

He made Ricketts appear good enough for an England place. That has to take some skill!
 
For me big Sam is just the next style of England manager they are going to try before they ever actually realise it's the players and not the management...
 
Does make you wonder what the criteria is nowdays.

Don't have to win anything, dont have to manage clubs at the highest levels. Just have to be English.
 
Big Sam 11
............Heaton ( outstanding keeper BTW)
Walker. Cahill. Smalling. Bertrand
Lindgard . Drinkwater. Noble Townsend
.........................Ali
,..............................kane
 
I seriously think he will make a better manager than England have had in a long time, need a manager who can get the best out of players and not play thm just on their reputations.
 
Big Sam 11
............Heaton ( outstanding keeper BTW)
Walker. Cahill. Smalling. Bertrand
Lindgard . Drinkwater. Noble Townsend
.........................Ali
,..............................kane

Lee - that team doesn't seem complete without places for Cattermole and Carroll.
 
I seriously think he will make a better manager than England have had in a long time, need a manager who can get the best out of players and not play thm just on their reputations.

But what in his CV tells you that he has this ability to get the best of out of these players? He had a couple of good years at Bolton, took Blackburn to 10th, utterly failed at Newcastle and West Ham have shot up the table since he left.

Slaven Bilic got the best out of the players at West Ham. Allardyce didn't.
 
But what in his CV tells you that he has this ability to get the best of out of these players? He had a couple of good years at Bolton, took Blackburn to 10th, utterly failed at Newcastle and West Ham have shot up the table since he left.

Slaven Bilic got the best out of the players at West Ham. Allardyce didn't.

West Ham have certainly kicked on and Bilic deserves loads of credit, but that does kind of overlook him getting West Ham promoted and consolidating them in the top flight.

As for Blackburn, when he was managing them, 10th was pretty close to their ceiling and Bolton was more than 'a couple' of good years.

I go back to what I posted a few pages back. He's far from an ideal candidate, but the English managerial cupboard is pretty bare and he's the best we've got if we're going to appoint an Englishman.
 
Blackburn and Bolton were good achievements but it wasn't like he didn't have backing at both clubs and it isn't like others haven't done more with less. At West Ham he had by far the best squad and biggest budget in the Championship and somehow had them scrape through in the Play-Offs playing terrible football.

Being English should be the ideal thing for a candidate to be England manager but appointing an English manager right now when there's so few strong candidates is a luxury that we can't afford.

Allardyce may be a brilliant England manager but I'm struggling to see anything in his track-record that suggests he will be and I'd expect him gone within two years.
 

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