Jade Goody - RIP

[Lord Football]

More likely to get red for using the term "shed load", a dreadful and ultimately meaningless term coined from misheard traffic announcements.

On the subject of Jade, I would merely say that if you had had her start in life, you would have considered yourself to have done well to have achieved as much as she has. I do wish that you would stop using such perjorative terms about people - communism will never work as long as communists are so judgemental about people instead of being judgemental about the circumstances that this society enforces on them.

"Shed load" - it's what you get when you hang around Northerners all day.

As for Jade's start in life, loads of people have her start in life and are very successful because they work hard and diligintly.

Communism will work when we start shooting the Media Barons.......

 

[Benji91]

who is this Jade Goody of whom you all talk of?

 

[A Century United]

"Shed load" - it's what you get when you hang around Northerners all day.

As for Jade's start in life, loads of people have her start in life and are very successful because they work hard and diligintly.

Communism will work when we start shooting the Media Barons.......

Ah, I see. So it's all their own fault, if they REALLY wanted to break out all they have to do is "work hard and diligently"?

That isn't Communism. That's Thatcherism.

How about you show some solidarity with the Downtrodden Working Class? I think I'm further left than you!

 

[manor15]

Imagine your her, how would you feel seeing the countdown to the day you die on the front page of half the newspapers? I don't think she deserved everything she has got in life but a lot of people haven't. In my opinion she should be left to enjoy her last few days without having the papers and papparazi following her

 

[BoyWonder2]

Imagine your her, how would you feel seeing the countdown to the day you die on the front page of half the newspapers? I don't think she deserved everything she has got in life but a lot of people haven't. In my opinion she should be left to enjoy her last few days without having the papers and papparazi following her

But she is asking for it though, the media attention I mean. She is doing this documentry with Living TV, had her wedding filmed etc.

 

[number11]

Imagine your her, how would you feel seeing the countdown to the day you die on the front page of half the newspapers? I don't think she deserved everything she has got in life but a lot of people haven't. In my opinion she should be left to enjoy her last few days without having the papers and papparazi following her

My understanding is that she has ASKED for the media attention to make as much money as possible in her last days. Employing Max Clifford to orchestrate the whole thing, signing deal with living tv etc.

Have to say Im with the posters above that have said it is hard to ignore the stories about her in the press, and that this is the press setting the agenda. They are printing round the clock coverage of her last few hours and people (including us sadly) are then dissecting it all, rather than the media responding to demand to be updated...

 

[Uncle Leo]

This gave me a shock. I sit next to a bloke called James Goodliffe - widely known as Goody - and I thought he was about to cark it. I really hope not as I'll probably have to do some of his work on top of my own.

Phew.

 

[BrettieAngell]

This gave me a shock. I sit next to a bloke called James Goodliffe - widely known as Goody - and I thought he was about to cark it. I really hope not as I'll probably have to do some of his work on top of my own.

Phew.

That could have been a nightmare mate!

 

[canveyshrimper]

This gave me a shock. I sit next to a bloke called James Goodliffe - widely known as Goody - and I thought he was about to cark it. I really hope not as I'll probably have to do some of his work on top of my own.

Phew.

Watching sport all day must be a hard life. ;)

 

[Perth Bambi]

If the media had seen her, and her kind, for what they are, I reckon society would be a better, and certainly, more intelligent place.

I do not get why people always think being intelligent makes you a good person. I have met plenty of intelligent people in my time who are mean spitful pricks only out for themselves.

on the flip side i have met many people who may not be blessed with the intelligence that you obviously think that you have who are not quite so condescending, patronising and downright nasty as you seem to be. Just because a person is clever doesn't make them a better person then someone who isn't.

 

[Sussex Shrimper]

I'm not going to pretend to have an overly high opinion of Jade Goody, or a particularly well formed opinion on her at all given that I avoid stories concerning her wherever possible, but she's not the problem in this instance.

The fact is that there's a large section of the media who stand for nothing other than a combination of the whim of their proprietor and whatever they think will shift copy. If Jade Goody wants to sell footage of her dying breath then I've no doubt whatsoever that there'll be media outlets only too keen to buy, and a sufficient audience out there to make it commercially viable. I don't deny either the media or the reader of that stuff the right to exist, I just happen to think that it doesn't bode well for us as a nation when somebody previously seen espousing racist filth on national TV can become the poster girl for "bravery" almost overnight courtesy of her publicist. The stories are going to appear - that's a given, but by no means are we forbidden to challenge them or question the motives.

 

[GBJ]

I do not get why people always think being intelligent makes you a good person. I have met plenty of intelligent people in my time who are mean spitful pricks only out for themselves.

on the flip side i have met many people who may not be blessed with the intelligence that you obviously think that you have who are not quite so condescending, patronising and downright nasty as you seem to be. Just because a person is clever doesn't make them a better person then someone who isn't.

I know exactly what you are saying. intelligence doesn't make a person better or neccessarily worse. i know a lad of 21, got 7 'A's at Gcse, completed 4 'A' Levels in law, accountancy, psychology and business, has a decent job (starting pay of £18k p/y) and is very cever at general knowledge. yet despite all this he STILL found the time to constantly go on robbing spree's around certain shopping centres, sell the stuff off to whoever (:whistling:) and each time he would make himself £100+.he was caught this weekend. would you say this person was intelligent? double edged sword in my opinion...

 

[Lord Football]

Ah, I see. So it's all their own fault, if they REALLY wanted to break out all they have to do is "work hard and diligently"?

That isn't Communism. That's Thatcherism.

How about you show some solidarity with the Downtrodden Working Class? I think I'm further left than you!

Working hard and diligently goes a long way to a successful life. Even in my socialist utopia there is an expectation that everyone can take out what they put in, when they are able to. That's basic Marxism.

Thatcherism allows for people to take a lot more than they put in.

Do you know what a WUM is btw, because you are pretty poor one. But nice try anyway.

 

[canveyshrimper]

Working hard and diligently goes a long way to a successful life. Even in my socialist utopia there is an expectation that everyone can take out what they put in, when they are able to. That's basic Marxism.

Thatcherism allows for people to take a lot more than they put in.

Do you know what a WUM is btw, because you are pretty poor one. But nice try anyway.

...and taking this way off topic, Marxism where all people are equal except some are more equal than others. No real difference from the Capitalist system really.

 

[stevie_G_G_G]

Back on topic...

Yes, she is a media freak but she is also a mother of two young children who will grow up without her. Any pictures you see of her and her family, you will also see a bond that only a mother and child can have. I think some people need to show a bit more respect to someone who hasn't got long to live and maybe keep some of their opinions to themselves in cases such as this.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

who is this Jade Goody of whom you all talk of?

She's a celebrity racist and the new Princess Die, all rolled into one.

 

[Lord Football]

...and taking this way off topic, Marxism where all people are equal except some are more equal than others. No real difference from the Capitalist system really.

No, that's the failed system the Soviet Union became, which was why it never worked.

Back on topic..........

 

[Ron Manager]

I feel really sorry for her, this is no age to die and leave behind small children. I can see the arguments for providing financially for her children however I also think the chance to spend the remaining time with them in privacy and with dignity is also something equally important.

The basic point though is you don't have to watch it all unfold on TV and you don't have to read about it in the papers. As much as she has a choice to live what's left of her life how she chooses we all have the choice to watch it happen or ignore it.

That's what I did with the whole Diana thing, ignored the press coverage completely and didn't participate in the awful (IMO) scenes of public grief which engulfed the country.

Luckily I'm on the other side of the world and apart from a few "aren't the Poms mad" articles in the papers the whole Jade thing is easy to ignore over here.

 

[BalmainShrimper]

A feel very sorry for her - she's a young woman with a young family who is suffering from a terrible disease.

I've a feeling that the whole Goody phenomenum will live on for much longer than she will. Hollywood could not have scripted her life story (in fact give it a year and they probably will)

Here's someone who was plucked from obscurity and lived her whole adult life, and now death, out in the full glare of the media, for our "entertainment". The media can only sell to those who want to buy, so really we have to look at ourselves when casting judgement. I consider myself well educated and intelligent, but I watched her on BB and on celebrity BB and laughed at her ineptitude, chatted with colleagues about her at the water cooler etc etc.

Now, looking back I just feel sad for her. I can't blame her for using the media in her final days - why not? The media has used her for the last 10 years. If it provides cash for her family and raises awareness of cervical cancer then fair play.

So it comes full circle - reality TV has given birth to, and witnessed the death of it's product, and I hope the public's thirst for this kind of cheap, exploititive TV wanes with it

 

[J]

Tick tock, tick tock..