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Post-Match Thread and Ratings Huddersfield Town 2-1 Southend United

Well done to Franny Laurent for being the first of our players to come to the fans at the end and also to Tilly for making sure everyone else did.

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Well said, not many managers would do that. The players should do it on their own accord though, they should be grateful that 251 loyal fans came to watch what was a fairly average performance, to put it kindly.
 
And a few comments from Huddersfield supporters on 606 - we are far too hard on our own team!!!

As well as Barnard, Alan McCormack always seems to have a blinder against us, so there's the two scorers for Southend. McCormack's one player I do rate very highly and really would like us to acquire at some point.


smithies didnt have a save to make..
he blamed p clark for their consolation goal..

Three of McCormack's 14 goals have come in 4 games (out of 133 appearances) against Huddersfield.

I'm not sure how we can have played that well when their keeper didn't have a save to make.
 
I don't understand people who get in a right state if players don't purposefully acknowledge the support... Giving 100% on the pitch, for me, is far more important and far more of an indication that they're committed.

Having watched the goals last night, the defending for both was atrocious and typified the season we're having. Once again, though, people will leave the criticism for RM because we're not signing players even though it's quite ****ing evident that we don't have the money to do so... Something which is hardly RM's fault.
 
I don't understand people who get in a right state if players don't purposefully acknowledge the support... Giving 100% on the pitch, for me, is far more important and far more of an indication that they're committed.

Having watched the goals last night, the defending for both was atrocious and typified the season we're having. Once again, though, people will leave the criticism for RM because we're not signing players even though it's quite ****ing evident that we don't have the money to do so... Something which is hardly RM's fault.

Personally its really ****s me off at away games.

People are spending the best part of £100 out of the own pocket, spending the whole day travelling to cheer them on.

The least they can do for my mind is spend all of 30 seconds clapping the fans and ackowleding the support. Its not a lot to ask.
 
Personally its really ****s me off at away games.

People are spending the best part of £100 out of the own pocket, spending the whole day travelling to cheer them on.

The least they can do for my mind is spend all of 30 seconds clapping the fans and ackowleding the support. Its not a lot to ask.

I'd much rather they gave 100% on the pitch. To me that eclipses any amount of badge-kissing or other token (and empty) gestures to the crowd.

People are spending the best part of £100 out of their own pocket, spending the whole day travelling to cheer them on, to see them give 100%, not to see them clap the fans.
 
I don't understand people who get in a right state if players don't purposefully acknowledge the support... Giving 100% on the pitch, for me, is far more important and far more of an indication that they're committed.

Having watched the goals last night, the defending for both was atrocious and typified the season we're having. Once again, though, people will leave the criticism for RM because we're not signing players even though it's quite ****ing evident that we don't have the money to do so... Something which is hardly RM's fault.

I must check your IP address as something tells me you are Ron Martin.
 
I must check your IP address as something tells me you are Ron Martin.

What's the point in abusing RM? We're not buying players because we're skint. We're skint because the recession hit at a time we were halfway through a redevelopment and relocation plan. What do you people expect Ron to do? Start ******** money?
 
What's the point in abusing RM? We're not buying players because we're skint. We're skint because the recession hit at a time we were halfway through a redevelopment and relocation plan. What do you people expect Ron to do? Start ******** money?

No, he's the devil! Didn't you know?
 
Having watched the goals last night, the defending for both was atrocious and typified the season we're having. Once again, though, people will leave the criticism for RM because we're not signing players even though it's quite ****ing evident that we don't have the money to do so... Something which is hardly RM's fault.

If it isn't the Chairman's fault that we're not buying any decent players then who do you suggest we blame?
 
What's the point in abusing RM? We're not buying players because we're skint. We're skint because the recession hit at a time we were halfway through a redevelopment and relocation plan. What do you people expect Ron to do? Start ******** money?

No but I do expect him to start spending some of the money that has been earmarked for development.
If he's not prepared to do that then he should stand down and let others eg the Consortium take over.
 
If it isn't the Chairman's fault that we're not buying any decent players then who do you suggest we blame?

This is my opinion (and i'm trying to be fair).

RM is trying his hardest to get the new stadium sorted, Fair enough. No problems. Unfortunately, in my eyes, this means any loose/spare cash goes towards this, and the Tilly has to do the best he can with little or no resources.

There is no doubt RM is trying to do something good (win win for both parties) but as i posed before, will the threat of relegation get in his way of building the stadium.

Or put another way, if the team are struggling to the point where relegation is a real possibility, will he put the stadium plan on hold temporarily, to invest in the team and keep us up?

I know we need the new stadium for future success etc etc, but as i've said before, surely staying in this division is just as big, if not a bigger priority?
 
What's the point in abusing RM? We're not buying players because we're skint. We're skint because the recession hit at a time we were halfway through a redevelopment and relocation plan. What do you people expect Ron to do? Start ******** money?

I'm currently considering coming over for our last home game against Stockport on 1st May.
I fully expect Stockport to be relegated by then.
I'm alarmed by the prospect that unless we invest in the team now, in the January window, then we might be needing the points, on the last day of the season, to stay up ourselves.The lack of investment in the current squad is nothing short of shameful and Tilly can't be expected to go on performing miracles on a shoestring budget much longer.
Betsy and Revell have been allowed to leave.Where are their replacements?And I don't see the 6 month contact offered to Scott Spencer(while highly welcome) as sufficient recruitment either.
If RM isn't responsible for this dire financial predicament,then who is?Certainly not Tilly.
 
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Or put another way, if the team are struggling to the point where relegation is a real possibility, will he put the stadium plan on hold temporarily, to invest in the team and keep us up?

I know we need the new stadium for future success etc etc, but as i've said before, surely staying in this division is just as big, if not a bigger priority?

I think this point has now been reached and there is a serious risk of us being sucked into a relegation struggle this season if we don't act now in the January window and bring some players in.
 
This is my opinion (and i'm trying to be fair).

RM is trying his hardest to get the new stadium sorted, Fair enough. No problems. Unfortunately, in my eyes, this means any loose/spare cash goes towards this, and the Tilly has to do the best he can with little or no resources.

There is no doubt RM is trying to do something good (win win for both parties) but as i posed before, will the threat of relegation get in his way of building the stadium.

Or put another way, if the team are struggling to the point where relegation is a real possibility, will he put the stadium plan on hold temporarily, to invest in the team and keep us up?

I know we need the new stadium for future success etc etc, but as i've said before, surely staying in this division is just as big, if not a bigger priority?

Nik, that's pretty much as I see it. The fact there is progress with the Vic Ave and Fairfax Dr property purchases HAS to be an indication that things are moving now. If we can manage to hang on in this league (and I really don't see why we shouldn't) then I firmly believe there will be money available to rebuild in the summer linked to all the development.

A wonderful, shiny Shangri La of a new stadium is going to be no good if there's no football team to play in it. We have to just pull in our belts a little bit tighter, stifle the moaning, lean on those players who are already giving far more than they should have to in these lean times and ALL PULL TOGETHER
 
If it isn't the Chairman's fault that we're not buying any decent players then who do you suggest we blame?

The recession? The collapse of the world banking system? Our cursed luck that we're not an elite club with 40,000+ attendances? The fact that Ali Al-Muhhamed Bhaj Dubai Monsour Fareek Trump Cashchenko doesn't want to invest in us? I don't know, take your pick...

We're a small club trying to expand. As FBM delightfully put it in another thread, I'd rather have the facility to at least try and compete than forever give up that possibility.
 
We are only a few points above the relegation zone. Not in a strong position without strengthening the squad.


P GD PTS
1 Leeds United 25 30 57
2 Norwich 26 31 54
3 Charlton 25 20 51
4 Colchester 24 13 45
5 Huddersfield 24 19 41
6 Swindon 23 4 41
7 MK Dons 25 5 39
8 Millwall 25 7 37
9 Bristol Rovers 23 -4 34
10 Brentford 25 -2 33
11 Walsall 23 2 31
12 Hartlepool 25 -6 30
13 Southampton 25 13 29
14 Southend 25 -5 29
15 Exeter 26 -9 29
16 Yeovil 24 -2 28
17 Carlisle 23 -4 28
18 Brighton 25 -12 27
19 Gillingham 25 -7 26
20 Oldham 23 -9 25
21 Leyton Orient 24 -13 24
22 Tranmere 23 -22 21
23 Wycombe 27 -23 19
24 Stockport 23 -26 14
 
Its been like that for quite a while now! The main problem is our away form 1 win in 9 I think it is, we have some tough away games coming up aswell. Our home form is going to be very important.
 
If it isn't the Chairman's fault that we're not buying any decent players then who do you suggest we blame?

Ultimately its the fault of the public of south east essex for not supporting their local team
An average crowd of 8,000 is enough to sustain a top-half/mid-table league one club but no more.
Sometimes through good mgmt & good luck a club of that size will have a season or two in the championship and sometimes through bad mgmt & bad luck they will drop into league two.
At the moment we are probably on the downward part of the same cycle we have been in for years.
Building the new stadium is an attempt to break out of that cycle. It has been a long time coming for reasons that are not all Ron Martin's fault. Maybe there has been poor financial mgmt too that has worsened the position, I don't know. There has certainly been some poor signings by Steve Tilson when he did have money to spend.
 
And more comments from Huddersfield:

To Be fair ppb for the first 15 mins we(town) played some good stuff, then the rest of the game we were quite bad.
I was impressed with your number 12, he ripped us to bits at times.


We were pinching ourselves at 2-0 up - thought you had plenty possesion but ultimately you didn't really threaten our goal much and by the end we had the better chances. Thought Banard looked classy earley on but then drifted out of the game. Tall guy on the right wing had our left back beaten every time and you number 8 ran the midfield.

We are far too hard on ourselves!
 
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