Hard or Soft Brexit?

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Oh that's a nice and balanced itenarary. :facepalm:

It's going to be entitled 'The Brexit (VicTORY) Consensus Tour' :smile::winking:

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Davis announces that he's going to begin performing his high wire Brexit act with no safety net yet in place, in case he falls! :omg:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-leave-no-deal-select-committee-a7630626.html

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Good luck with this incompetent bunch to see you through the minefield of Brexit! Soft or hard Brexit?.........looks like it will be a chaotic one to me. :smile:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...feat-david-davis-philip-hammond-a7632276.html

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Davis announces that he's going to begin performing his high wire Brexit act with no safety net yet in place, in case he falls! :omg:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-leave-no-deal-select-committee-a7630626.html

no plans for a no deal scenario have been looked at since the referendum says David Davies - straight from the horses mouth - what is the plan? 'dunno'

 

[MK Shrimper]

The tories seem to think the EU will lay down at their feet and let them tweak their nipples, and they'll roll over and give them what they want. Why do I get the feeling it'll be the UK that'll get shafted with this shower of **** in charge?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/18/nhs-eu-nurses-quit-record-numbers

The number of EU nurses in the NHS has fallen since Brexit.Hardly a suprise.

“These shocking figures show you can’t have a strong NHS and a hard Brexit,” Norman Lamb.

 

[leeblue]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/18/nhs-eu-nurses-quit-record-numbers

The number of EU nurses in the NHS has fallen since Brexit.Hardly a suprise.

“These shocking figures show you can’t have a strong NHS and a hard Brexit,” Norman Lamb.

Just to drive this home tonight in A&E I am working with 3 Spanish nurses and Portuguese. Two of the Spanish guys are leaving this week to go home.....shame because they are fantastic nurses.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Just to drive this home tonight in A&E I am working with 3 Spanish nurses and Portuguese. Two of the Spanish guys are leaving this week to go home.....shame because they are fantastic nurses.

Certainly doesn't look good.And set to get even worse next year apparently.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-39316963

 

[superblue24]

Just to drive this home tonight in A&E I am working with 3 Spanish nurses and Portuguese. Two of the Spanish guys are leaving this week to go home.....shame because they are fantastic nurses.

They specifically said that Brexit was to blame for their leaving? No other factors for their decision?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk

So it begins eventually.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

They specifically said that Brexit was to blame for their leaving? No other factors for their decision?

I'd imagine that the lack of their security over their future in the UK as EU citizens after Brexit would have been the main reason.

 

[MK Shrimper]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk

So it begins eventually.

Shame April 1st is a saturday :whistling:

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I'd imagine that the lack of their security over their future in the UK as EU citizens after Brexit would have been the main reason.

Or perhaps they have secured employment in their home country and the thought of being home around friends and family appeals - obviously, just like you, I'm just imagining.
I for one don't think any EU citizen working in a skilled job has anything to fear. Those who have come over for a free ride, and there are many, may not be so fortunate.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Or perhaps they have secured employment in their home country and the thought of being home around friends and family appeals - obviously, just like you, I'm just imagining.
I for one don't think any EU citizen working in a skilled job has anything to fear. Those who have come over for a free ride, and there are many, may not be so fortunate.

that last bit based on anything or just a random slur on foreigners?

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

If it's true, positioning and posturing of course but it looks as though it could be fun. Brexiter's laughing all the way to the exit door?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...court-leaked-strategy-documents-a7641406.html

I think there was a good example of the feeling here on the continent in last night's first TV Presidential debate. Le Pen was full of praise for the UK and Brexit, claiming that they were flourishing after the referendum vote. She was cut down to size by one of her opponents who retorted, "but they haven't left yet!" I have said all along that the political arguments will trump the economic ones, even if that is disadvantageous to the EU. The UK cannot be seen to get a better deal than the one they now have. Losing the UK will severely harm the EU but acceding to the UK's demands and showing the populist parties that there are benefits in leaving, will certainly be its death knell.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

In brief the British want 'le beurre et l'argent de beurre' (to have their cake and eat it). Thing is, what happens when reality kicks in????

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ree-trade-europe-keep-uk-survey-a7641541.html

 

[Benfleet A1]

In brief the British want 'le beurre et l'argent de beurre' (to have their cake and eat it). Thing is, what happens when reality kicks in????

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ree-trade-europe-keep-uk-survey-a7641541.html

While Junker is openly encouageing hostilities towards the UK and calling for harsh punishments to deter other countries from leaving ( I can't quite make up my mind whether he fancies himself as the next Hitler or Stalin with threats like that) then I think we are a very long way from any meaningful reality on both sides.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

While Junker is openly encouageing hostilities towards the UK and calling for harsh punishments to deter other countries from leaving ( I can't quite make up my mind whether he fancies himself as the next Hitler or Stalin with threats like that) then I think we are a very long way from any meaningful reality on both sides.

Try De Gaulle

 

[Benfleet A1]

Try De Gaulle

Good call. Forgot all about that gutless wonder.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

While Junker is openly encouageing hostilities towards the UK and calling for harsh punishments to deter other countries from leaving ( I can't quite make up my mind whether he fancies himself as the next Hitler or Stalin with threats like that) then I think we are a very long way from any meaningful reality on both sides.

I think hostilities are coming from both sides ('Britain could leave the EU legally without paying a farthing' comes to mind.... that doesn't exactly go down a bomb over here). the article seems to typify the governments attitude, that you can actually leave a club and still keep the benefits of membership. For this attitude to exist it must surely appear that many people didn't really understand what they were voting against and the full consequences of that action.