Hard or Soft Brexit?

[yogi bear up the cagire]

The EU will of course have collapsed by then.

Be interesting to see if you stay in Spain and take the pain. Or suddenly start to miss the best country in the world and come back with your tail between your legs and admit that us Brexiters were right all along :winking:

Honestly, the way the world is going at the moment, I reckon Mars may be a better option.

 

[rigsby]

Honestly, the way the world is going at the moment, I reckon Mars may be a better option.

Ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact its cold as hell.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact its cold as hell.

Have my sincere doubts that this present world is a good place to raise kids either.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Yes I'm in for a tenner.

How typical of the Guardian. Selfish ex-pats who left Britain behind now moaning because they can't vote. Well hard luck you made your choice and stuck to fingers up to the rest of us who have to work ever harder to pay your pensions and to prop up countries like Spain so that you don't have to.

Me, I cashed in 25% of my pension so that I could start a business here in Southend which now employs local people. That's why I get a say in Britain's future and you lot don't. My friends parents cashed in their house and blew all their money in the sunshine. When his dad died, the mum returned and is now living in a flat in Eastwood on benefits. We (not you) will pay even more for her when she goes in a home.

That's one costly scam that we could stop after Brexit.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Yes I'm in for a tenner.

How typical of the Guardian. Selfish ex-pats who left Britain behind now moaning because they can't vote. Well hard luck you made your choice and stuck to fingers up to the rest of us who have to work ever harder to pay your pensions and to prop up countries like Spain so that you don't have to.

Me, I cashed in 25% of my pension so that I could start a business here in Southend which now employs local people. That's why I get a say in Britain's future and you lot don't. My friends parents cashed in their house and blew all their money in the sunshine. When his dad died, the mum returned and is now living in a flat in Eastwood on benefits. We (not you) will pay even more for her when she goes in a home.

That's one costly scam that we could stop after Brexit.

You're on for the bet.

Interestingly,I read in last month's Connection (a newspaper for expats in France), that the Tory government intends to honour its 2015 election pledge to abolish the current 15 year rule for expats before the end of this parliamentary term, (too late for the estimated 1.5 million Brits living in other EU countries to vote in the referendum of course).

As for pensions,I'm due to receive a state one from Spain next April and already receive a small private pension from France.

GB inform me that I'm no longer eligible for a UK pension after changes in the law that took place last April.

I've been informed by a Spanish accountant,a judge and a Scottish Senior Law Lecturer that this can be contested ,which I fully intend to do.

 

[Bielzibubz]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38324146

Looks like Brexit might now take 10 years to negotiate.

Great suits me fine.:thumbsup:

So you're in favour of Brexit after all, just not a fast one. Cool, glad we've cleared that up. :thumbsup:

Two years, five years, tens years. No one is certain as to the real time frame of Brexit. What is certain however is that in the end we WILL be shot of the whole undemocratic and corrupt system that is the EU :thumbsup:

 

[Bielzibubz]

So this morning the news is full of two stories concerning Brexit.

The first being that it's going to cost the UK £50 billion in charges to leave the EU. Considering how much we won't be paying in month on month it's a small price to pay long term. The second being that the 27 other members of the EU met for dinner to discuss Brexit and Teresa May wasn't invited. Who cares? They met for 30 minutes. Yes, just 30 minutes. Hardly enough time to say hello to one another let alone conduct talks on such a complicated matter. It's the EU playing the playground bully and the UK media bought it hook line and sinker :hilarious:

I just thought I'd get this in first before someone posted a Guardian link about it :smile:

 

[EastStandBlue]

So this morning the news is full of two stories concerning Brexit.

The first being that it's going to cost the UK £50 billion in charges to leave the EU. Considering how much we won't be paying in month on month it's a small price to pay long term.

Still more than 142 years worth of additional funding for the NHS though, isn't it?

 

[mrsblue]

Still more than 142 years worth of additional funding for the NHS though, isn't it?

just 4 years of overseas aid budget though.

Mrs May pledged another £20,000,000 to Syria ,it's ok though it's not her actual money.

 

[EastStandBlue]

just 4 years of overseas aid budget though.

Mrs May pledged another £20,000,000 to Syria ,it's ok though it's not her actual money.

I don't recall the overseas aid budget featuring in any Brexit manifesto.

 

[mrsblue]

I don't recall the overseas aid budget featuring in any Brexit manifesto.

Its always about money.......our money,end of,fact.

 

[EastStandBlue]

Its always about money.......our money,end of,fact.

Indeed. Circa £50 billion of it "end of", "fact".

 

[Bielzibubz]

Still, a damn site less than the £124 billion the bank bail out has cost us since 2009 but wait, hold the front door! We got through that and Armageddon didn't materialize so I would hazard a guess we might just get through this.

Or to put it another way. 352 years of additional funding for the NHS. Don't remember everyone getting all indignant about that back in the day. Still, makes a good sound bite don't you think.

 

[mrsblue]

Still, a damn site less than the £124 billion the bank bail out has cost us since 2009 but wait, hold the front door! We got through that and Armageddon didn't materialize so I would hazard a guess we might just get through this.

Very true

As far as I'm aware not one single banker has been jailed for the mammoth fraud.

britjusticeatitsbest

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38336977

This morning's BBC news.

I see Mrs May wants an early deal for those GB citizens living in the UK.Good.There should also be a similar deal for the estimated 2.3 million European citizens living in the UK.

Let me stress I don't have a dog in this fight,as someone who's lived in Spain for more than ten years now, I'd be fully entitled to apply for (and almost certainly get) Spanish nationality.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I don't recall the overseas aid budget featuring in any Brexit manifesto.

UKIP were always banging on about it.:sick:

 

[londonblue]

Still, a damn site less than the £124 billion the bank bail out has cost us since 2009 but wait, hold the front door! We got through that and Armageddon didn't materialize so I would hazard a guess we might just get through this.

Or to put it another way. 352 years of additional funding for the NHS. Don't remember everyone getting all indignant about that back in the day. Still, makes a good sound bite don't you think.

Don't forget that money will eventually be clawed back when the shares the government bought are sold, which has already started. It was an investment, and might actually make money in the long run.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Don't forget that money will eventually be clawed back when the shares the government bought are sold, which has already started. It was an investment, and might actually make money in the long run.

Even if it doesn't, it was the right thing to do at the time.Though some of the bankers concerned should have been jailed.

 

[Bielzibubz]

Don't forget that money will eventually be clawed back when the shares the government bought are sold, which has already started. It was an investment, and might actually make money in the long run.

True, as of last year the Government had recouped just £22 billion of the estimated £124 billion 'invested' in RBS and Lloyds. Of course that's just a small part of the total £850 billion spent in guarantees and finance deals according to The National Audit Office.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Even if it doesn't, it was the right thing to do at the time.Though some of the bankers concerned should have been jailed.

Was it? What a pity that those banks who sold dodgy loans and mortgages didn't go under and the loans and mortgages cancelled.