Hard or Soft Brexit?

[Supernaut]

It will, however, have a negative impact on future generations of Britons

He's wrong you know. Again.

 

[Swiss Tony]

"Hard" Brexit or "soft" Brexit though? It would appear that "spreadsheet Phil" is in favour of the later.

The only thing I'm pleased about in this whole sorry mess, is that it won't affect me or my immediate family adversly, in any way.

Sour grapes in abundance me thinks,in the words of the Stones,"you can't always get what you want" Tangers, you'll learn to live with it,promise.:hilarious:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

"Hard" Brexit or "soft" Brexit though? It would appear that "spreadsheet Phil" is in favour of the later.

The only thing I'm pleased about in this whole sorry mess, is that it won't affect me or my immediate family adversly, in any way.

It will, however, have a negative impact on future generations of Britons

Spoken like a true socialist!

The last line (which you chose not to highlight) certainly was.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Thank you. I want Brexit for many reasons AND also know that it will cost in the short to medium time frame.
IF the EU had shown true desire and willingness to change and cut costs, corruption, nepotism, social experimentation as well as stopping interference in domestic national policy I would have voted remain but.....

Maybe your elected politicians will cut a "soft" Brexit deal for you.But I wouldn't hold my breath.

Sour grapes in abundance me thinks,in the words of the Stones,"you can't always get what you want" Tangers, you'll learn to live with it,promise.:hilarious:

Not really.I've already learnt to live with it,whereas I expect you (and others) will live to regret it.

As I've already said, I don't expect it to affect my material circumstances,nor that of my immediate family,adversly,in any way.

Much prefer the Stones first album, btw.:raspberry:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Interesting that two former PM's think there is a justifiable case for another referendum on Brexit while the Maltese PM warns that EU leaders are "not bluffing" over the importance of free movement.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...perfectly-credible-case-for-second-referendum

http://www.bbc.com/news/world

 

[londonblue]

Interesting that two former PM's think there is a justifiable case for another referendum on Brexit while the Maltese PM warns that EU leaders are "not bluffing" over the importance of free movement.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...perfectly-credible-case-for-second-referendum

http://www.bbc.com/news/world

Looks like we may have made the Maltese cross.

 

[southendkid]

Interesting that two former PM's think there is a justifiable case for another referendum on Brexit while the Maltese PM warns that EU leaders are "not bluffing" over the importance of free movement.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...perfectly-credible-case-for-second-referendum

http://www.bbc.com/news/world

I think only Boris is deluded enough to think we can stay in the single market and ban freedom of movement, it's got to be one or the other, the Maltese PM is telling us what we already know.

 

[callan]

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It will, however, have a negative impact on future generations of Britons

The last line (which you chose not to highlight) certainly was.

Really in what way is your last line a socialist comment?

I have read many posts on here that come from a socialist perspective, however this isn't one of them.
It could have been written by a disgruntled Tory remainer, and anyone reading the post in it's entirety could be forgiven for thinking it was.

As for the last lines content, it''s your opinion mixed with your predictionn of what the future holds.....speculation of it's very worst or best depending on point of view.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Really in what way is your last line a socialist comment?

I have read many posts on here that come from a socialist perspective, however this isn't one of them.
It could have been written by a disgruntled Tory remainer, and anyone reading the post in it's entirety could be forgiven for thinking it was.

As for the last lines content, it''s your opinion mixed with your predictionn of what the future holds.....speculation of it's very worst or best depending on point of view.

Yes.And it's a socialist comment whatever you may think.

Leaving the EU, (on whatever terms), will be the greatest mistake any British government has made in my lifetime.

 

[Bielzibubz]

Yes.And it's a socialist comment whatever you may think.

Leaving the EU, (on whatever terms), will be the greatest mistake any British government has made in my lifetime.

In your socialist opinion. There are n hard facts to bare that statement out, and you know it. There are predictions outlining both outcomes. There are forecasts predicting both financial cost/benefit scenarios. There are no facts under which you can base such a statement upon.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Nigel Farage has cancelled the protest he claimed he was organising for the Supreme Court case opening. Bit short notice for the 100,000 people he said would turn up. That's a lot of cancelled time off work, trains and coaches that would have been booked. That's 100,000 people that are feeling let down.
My main concern is that the police would have booked a major operation to make sure that 100,000 people would have been safe. Who pays for all of the wasted police time.
At least the 100 ish people that turned up to this week's demo got to have their say, so that's only 99,900 people that will be really really disappointed.

 

[callan]

Yes.And it's a socialist comment whatever you may think.

Leaving the EU, (on whatever terms), will be the greatest mistake any British government has made in my lifetime.

Please explain in what way it's a socialist comment?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

In your socialist opinion. There are n hard facts to bare that statement out, and you know it. There are predictions outlining both outcomes. There are forecasts predicting both financial cost/benefit scenarios. There are no facts under which you can base such a statement upon.

Please explain in what way it's a socialist comment?

I don't think anyone who voted for Brexit, voted knowingly, for a cut in their (and the country's), future standard of living.

That will be the ultimate consequence of leaving the EU.

All the current economic forecasts from the Bank of England,the IMF and the OBR predict this will happen.

Since no country has left the EU before, obviously there can be no precedent (or "facts") for the UK's situation.

Expect the EU's negotiators to screw us to the wall from next March.

 

[rigsby]

I don't think anyone who voted for Brexit, voted knowingly, for a cut in their (and the country's), future standard of living.

That will be the ultimate consequence of leaving the EU.

All the current economic forecasts from the Bank of England,the IMF and the OBR predict this will happen.

Since no country has left the EU before, obviously there can be no precedent (or "facts") for the UK's situation.

Expect the EU's negotiators to screw us to the wall from next March.

When did Spain vote out ?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

When did Spain vote out ?

You seem to forget that I'm the proud holder of a British passport.:raspberry:

 

[rigsby]

You seem to forget that I'm the proud holder of a British passport.:raspberry:

Oh good, that will help with future health tourism. Like all expats living in Spain no doubt you will return to abuse the NHS when the time comes.

 

[Bielzibubz]

That will be the ultimate consequence of leaving the EU.

Again, you just don't get it do you TUIB. In you're opinion, that's all. No one knows what lies ahead.

All the current economic forecasts from the Bank of England,the IMF and the OBR predict this will happen.

Forecasts. There, you said it yourself. Nothing more. All of those you mention have been way off the mark so far and could be again. It's conjecture, no more.

Since no country has left the EU before, obviously there can be no precedent (or "facts") for the UK's situation.

Thank you. At last you've acknowledged there are no 'facts' and you could be oh so very wrong.

Expect the EU's negotiators to screw us to the wall from next March.

I expect nothing of the like. I expect that once those individual countries negotiators get round the table they will do what's best for themselves and their people and not what's best for the collective European good.

Roll on March 2017 and let's get this party started

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Oh good, that will help with future health tourism. Like all expats living in Spain no doubt you will return to abuse the NHS when the time comes.

doesn't the opposite happen and a lot of old people move to Spain and use their resources?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Oh good, that will help with future health tourism. Like all expats living in Spain no doubt you will return to abuse the NHS when the time comes.

On the contrary,since I have a CatSalut card,which entitles me to access the excellent Spanish NH system for free, I have no need to use the services of the NHS.Though I also have a European Health Card (the old E111 for my visits back to the UK and elsewhere in the EU).

 

[Benfleet A1]

You seem to forget that I'm the proud holder of a British passport.:raspberry:

Who stated that he would never move back here.