General Boxing Thread

[Leigh_Seasider]

I genuinely don’t think he cared much for the fight. Fury has a habit of going through phases of being a bit odd and his bipolar could be a reason for not giving a **** about it.

It sounds like I’m making excuses for him because I am! Fury is without a doubt the best heavyweight in the division. His trilogy with Wilder will go down as one of the greatest trilogies in the history of boxing! I’d love him to be mentally and physically fit for every fight because he is unreal when on form.

Totally agree the other idiots that share the same name as him let him down. In a similar vain other fights have hangers on who bring their fighters down and advise them wrong. BJS and AJ come to mind!

I’d love Fury to put on a clinic against Usyk and walk off into the sunset with all the belts (won’t happen anyway because of greedy sanctioning bodies).

I see Hearn has come out and said Fury should fight AJ now because he would beat him always has to make anything about him!

This mate is my issue. If it was just purely about the boxing and not the hype, money and box office then Fury might get his head down and just train and be in peak condition for every fight. All the other crap gets in the way and makes it difficult to respect him. Peak Fury doesn’t give Ngannou a look in but he lets him put him on the canvas. And let’s face it he was lucky (or it was dodgy, worst case). No doubt we will see a better Tyson against Usyk. As for fighting AJ, don’t make me laugh.

 

[Ricey]

This mate is my issue. If it was just purely about the boxing and not the hype, money and box office then Fury might get his head down and just train and be in peak condition for every fight. All the other crap gets in the way and makes it difficult to respect him. Peak Fury doesn’t give Ngannou a look in but he lets him put him on the canvas. And let’s face it he was lucky (or it was dodgy, worst case). No doubt we will see a better Tyson against Usyk. As for fighting AJ, don’t make me laugh.

They need to follow the UFC model, every fight is a big fight, you go up the rankings, if you don’t want to fight the person at 2 then 3 gets a chance. But the person at 2 then gets moved down the rankings.

None of these elite fighters vs journey men or money fights.

 

[* ORM *]

Fury wouldn’t have stood a chance against any of the 70s or 80s greats. I also think if Bruno connected he wouldn’t get up. Heavyweight boxing is sinking lower month by month fuelled by the muppets that buy tickets or pay per view. Everything stinks. The rankings, the judging, the money. Whatever happened to mandatory defences?

 

[Ricky Otto]

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I genuinely don’t think he cared much for the fight. Fury has a habit of going through phases of being a bit odd and his bipolar could be a reason for not giving a **** about it.

It sounds like I’m making excuses for him because I am! Fury is without a doubt the best heavyweight in the division. His trilogy with Wilder will go down as one of the greatest trilogies in the history of boxing! I’d love him to be mentally and physically fit for every fight because he is unreal when on form.

Totally agree the other idiots that share the same name as him let him down. In a similar vain other fights have hangers on who bring their fighters down and advise them wrong. BJS and AJ come to mind!

I’d love Fury to put on a clinic against Usyk and walk off into the sunset with all the belts (won’t happen anyway because of greedy sanctioning bodies).

I see Hearn has come out and said Fury should fight AJ now because he would beat him always has to make anything about him!

To be fair to Ngannou, he didn't look like a guy who was chancing it. I've seen a couple of these mma fighters try boxing and Ngannou was different. I'm not getting carried away but I'd like to see him fight again, he has sparked a curiosity. Very calm and very sensible, obviously knew his limitations and formed a game plan based on those limitations. The only hint you got that he wasn't a boxer was the flying punch near the end when he smelled blood that was very MMA.

I think you are right that Fury is the best in the heavyweight division. It's the size that sets him apart, I think he's just going to be too big and too awkward for Usyk. I would love Usyk to beat him though, far more likable, professional and doesn't contradict himself. I think Tyson did so well redeeming himself and winning everyone over, including me. It's almost sad that he's undoing all that.

As for Hearn, we all know he is wrong but he does really support and promote his man. I think AJ is lucky to have him

 

[LCBB72]

I used to be Tysons biggest fan and followed him right from the start , but when he started saying things about gays I went right of him .

 

[stewart]

Watched a replay on you tube, of the most boring fight i have ever seen, Shakur Stevenson, seriously who would waste money going to see him ,he runs faster than Mayweather ever did, absolutely boring !!!!

 

[Ricey]

Watched a replay on you tube, of the most boring fight i have ever seen, Shakur Stevenson, seriously who would waste money going to see him ,he runs faster than Mayweather ever did, absolutely boring !!!!

It really was, I’m not about Compubox stats but this did make me laugh:

De Los Santos' total of 40 landed punches is the lowest for a 12-round fight ever recorded by CompuBox.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Fair play to AJ, he's back, with a bang, or two or three. A brilliant performance. He's never hit so hard. Don't forget that Ngannou took Tyson Fury all the way, and only lost on a controversial split decision. AJ seems to have shaken off the mental demons he was going through that badly affected his boxing.

 

[Ricey]

Let’s not forget this is an MMA fighter in his 2nd boxing fight. Regardless of thoughts on the Fury fight he lost. Just because AJ knocked out Ngannou doesn’t mean he’s going to steamroll through Fury.

Look at Fury’s history, when the opponents are lower level he doesn’t take things seriously and puts in lacklustre performances. You will see 100% focussed Fury against Usyk and it will be the same against AJ.

Do you really think Fury will leave his chin as open as Ngannou did for AJ to get those rights in!

Remember one swallow doesn’t make it summer!

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

I get that Ricey. But as you say, Ngannou was an MMA fighter. That makes Fury's performance against him even worse. Fury can be hit with big bombs as we've seen in the past. He's been knocked down a few times. Sometimes looking down and out and just surviving the count. I think even he would have been knocked out last night.

 

[* ORM *]

I get that Ricey. But as you say, Ngannou was an MMA fighter. That makes Fury's performance against him even worse. Fury can be hit with big bombs as we've seen in the past. He's been knocked down a few times. Sometimes looking down and out and just surviving the count. I think even he would have been knocked out last night.

I fear you’ve bought into the BS. Heavyweight boxing is now a money spinning circus with Fury as its ringmaster with thousands of muppets lining his pockets.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

I fear you’ve bought into the BS. Heavyweight boxing is now a money spinning circus with Fury as its ringmaster with thousands of muppets lining his pockets.

It's always been about money, from the Don King days. Only now the boxers have more say and promote themselves, and barter for their contract. As the World wide audience has grown through technology, then of course the money has got ridiculous. Pay per view has a lot to do with that. You say Fury is the ringmaster, are you saying the fights he has are bent, and AJ won't be allowed to beat him if it happens?

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

The British Heavyweight title clash tonight at the O2, between Wardley and Clarke. After watching two heroic performances, although they were a bit too easily hit for my liking. Both fighters gave everything. 12 brutal rounds. Wardley fought most of the fight with a bad cut to the top of the nose. I was hoping for a draw as you couldn't separate them, and both didn't deserve to lose. Thankfully, it was a rare draw.

 

[Ricey]

The British Heavyweight title clash tonight at the O2, between Wardley and Clarke. After watching two heroic performances, although they were a bit too easily hit for my liking. Both fighters gave everything. 12 brutal rounds. Wardley fought most of the fight with a bad cut to the top of the nose. I was hoping for a draw as you couldn't separate them, and both didn't deserve to lose. Thankfully, it was a rare draw.

No shocking judging decisions which was nice to see! A real war of two double hard bastards! How Wardley fought through that after sustaining that injury to his nose is beyond me! Glad it was a draw means we get to see it again.

Let’s be honest, those two are British level, they aren’t future world champions. But it’s good to have these sorts of fights on and they always tend to deliver. Nice to see the promoters mixing their fighters with other promotors. The whole Saudi business with Turki Al Sheikh has really turned boxing around. We get the best fighting the best and it’s great to see. Which means in the UK you get great fights like this at the domestic level. Fights like Taylor v Catterall 2. I know we’d love to the see the AJ’s and Fury’s filling out stadiums in the UK. I couldn’t give a **** where it is, as long as the fights happen!

Boxing is back baby!

 

[stewart]

Whats your opinion on the tzyu fight , i think it should have been stopped after he got the elbow to his head . It was plain for all to see that the blood running down his face into his eyes was affecting him , i ve seen fights stopped for much less so many times , but thats LAS VEGAS , THE YANKS DONT CARE FOR ANYONE BUT THERE OWN .

 

[Ricey]

Whats your opinion on the tzyu fight , i think it should have been stopped after he got the elbow to his head . It was plain for all to see that the blood running down his face into his eyes was affecting him , i ve seen fights stopped for much less so many times , but thats LAS VEGAS , THE YANKS DONT CARE FOR ANYONE BUT THERE OWN .

100% should’ve been stopped. But then so should the Fury v Wallin fight on that cut but they carried on. It’s always a difficult decision.

 

[stewart]

Looks like Fundoras management have had a change off heart and said Tzyu can have a rematch now .

 

[LCBB72]

The BBC boxing programe 'The Stable' is well worth watching if you are a boxing fan .

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

John Fury, pathetic, and again shows the bully mentality. He goes head to head with the bigger guy from Usyk's camp, but the other guy doesn't back down, so obviously Fury doesn't headbutt him. Then a few minutes pass, lots of chanting and shouting from both camps, and Fury prancing about as if he's coked to the eyeballs, he said it's Testosterone. He then headbutts the smallest guy in the Usyk camp. Out of the blue and the guy wasn't expecting it. Embarrassing, and if I was Tyson Fury, I would sack him.

 

[Avl1983]

Its all for attention and to sell the fight, I completely agree and a fight of this size doesn't need it at all. He'd be better off sticking with is son Tommy's career fighting You Tuber's!