Question Blair Sturrock: Please Please Please why......

[Yorkshire Blue]

I don't care who scores the goals.

Sturrock got Plymouth promoted as champions with over 100 points with Coughlan as his top-scorer.

I wouldn't complain if he repeated that, although I appreciate that I'd be in the minority on that.

 

[DTS]

Load of crap. Decent enough player not likely to be a fans favourite but scored a late equaliser on his debut and the wining pen on Tuesday night so why there is moaning I really don't know.

 

[WoodhamShrimper]

Load of crap. Decent enough player not likely to be a fans favourite but scored a late equaliser on his debut and the wining pen on Tuesday night so why there is moaning I really don't know.

1 - his first goal of his shin 2yards out
2- what was he doing the rest of the game tues night, only time he looked decent was when he scored a pen, didnt look promising whilst playing 90mins

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

1 - his first goal of his shin 2yards out

Don't they count?

If anything your issue is that he isn't going to shin in 20 goals a season, each from 2 yards out.

 

[Shrimper]

To put it blunty to the moaners. He's better than a lot of players and is here to stay so lump it.

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

This thread has amazed me.

 

[Shrimperforlife]

Don't they count?

If anything your issue is that he isn't going to shin in 20 goals a season, each from 2 yards out.

To be honest , I would settle for 20 wins at 1-0 where ANYBODY scores ''shinned'' goals and I would happy after the summer we've had...

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

To be honest , I would settle for 20 wins at 1-0 where ANYBODY scores ''shinned'' goals and I would happy after the summer we've had...

Exactly. The problem is a lot of people on here wouldn't agree with you.

 

[Shrimperforlife]

1 - his first goal of his shin 2yards out
2- what was he doing the rest of the game tues night, only time he looked decent was when he scored a pen, didnt look promising whilst playing 90mins

Point 1 ...excellant, gots us a draw , when we didn't look like getting anything
Point 2 .... and a few others went missing on the night , yet we aren't having a long go at them are we? and if he scores the winner in the shoot out doesn't that count as just as good?? Does in my book, I was jumping and down just as much

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

O.K. guys. Lets see which fans that have defended Blair are willing to answer this and be honest. A hypothetical question for all of you. We play our strongest side all season, where do you think we would finish?

A. With Corr and Sturrock up front =

B. With Corr and Paterson =

C. With Corr and Theo Robinson type goalscorer =


My answers by the way are; A=11TH B=7TH C=2ND




Anyone thinking Blair and Paterson or Spencer. It doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[Norwichshrimper]

I've just used up half an hour of my life reading this, so would be a shame not to shove in my ha'penny.

1) Blair Sturrock is not good enough for the football league (or more importantly not for a succesful football league side).
2) However, that is no reason to slag him off and/or boo him at games. By all means opinions should be expressed on here, as blunt as you like - but I cannot, have not, and will never understand the mentality of people not supporting the players representing their team. I on a match day. It is moronic, counter productive and achieves nothing positive. Sturrock could wheel out his entire family and I would still back them 100% on matchday, sure I'd have a hell of a lot to say afterwards but on matchday they would get no less support and encouragement then any other players.

 

[OldBlueLady]

What is this bollocks about only people having played football to a certain level being in some way qualified to comment? I never heard such a load of absolute drivel in all my life! Just cos you all seem to play Football Manager gives some of you the idea that you have the God given right to be the world's biggest authority on the game. Come on, anyone who is a football supporter has the right to critique a game in the way they see fit because we are a free speaking country. No-one's opinion is any better than anyone else's purely because they may have played it to Sunday league standard at some point in their pre-beer bellied lives! It's condescending and patronising and I've never read such a load of rubbish in all my life. If you've seen the match then you have the right to express a valid opinion on it, if you don't then you might have an opinion you wish to give but it will be tainted through skewed highlights or influenced by commentaries or news reports and I think Rich, my friend, that is why people have got so cross with you over Blair.

It's like saying the only people who can evaluate a meal are chefs or cooks because they are involved in the preparation and execution whereas in reality, it is the consumers/customers who evaluate as they are the ones who show their appreciation - or otherwise.

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

What is this bollocks about only people having played football to a certain level being in some way qualified to comment? I never heard such a load of absolute drivel in all my life! Just cos you all seem to play Football Manager gives some of you the idea that you have the God given right to be the world's biggest authority on the game. Come on, anyone who is a football supporter has the right to critique a game in the way they see fit because we are a free speaking country. No-one's opinion is any better than anyone else's purely because they may have played it to Sunday league standard at some point in their pre-beer bellied lives! It's condescending and patronising and I've never read such a load of rubbish in all my life. If you've seen the match then you have the right to express a valid opinion on it, if you don't then you might have an opinion you wish to give but it will be tainted through skewed highlights or influenced by commentaries or news reports and I think Rich, my friend, that is why people have got so cross with you over Blair.

It's like saying the only people who can evaluate a meal are chefs or cooks because they are involved in the preparation and execution whereas in reality, it is the consumers/customers who evaluate as they are the ones who show their appreciation - or otherwise.

I don't think anybody has actually said that.

It's clearly been explained that, you are more likely to know more about the game and have a clearer understanding if you have played football or you play football! That doesn't mean that you can't evaluate it. Some people clearly know a lot of things about football without having played the game. The statement doesn't count for 100 percent of people. Just a fair majority.

I've just used up half an hour of my life reading this, so would be a shame not to shove in my ha'penny.

1) Blair Sturrock is not good enough for the football league (or more importantly not for a succesful football league side).

I'd like to read your view on why Blair Sturrock isn't good enough for the football league, where he has scored 1 goal that clinched us a point, getting a standing ovation and a very big cheer and clap when he was substituted after the Brizzle City cup game (against a football league side) and after he has scored the decisive penalty in a JPT cup match (against a football league side). I'd like to read why you think he isn't good enough, don't take this as I'm being a patronising idiot, I purely am interested in your opinion.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

It's like saying the only people who can evaluate a meal are chefs or cooks because they are involved in the preparation and execution whereas in reality, it is the consumers/customers who evaluate as they are the ones who show their appreciation - or otherwise.

Not a good analogy, as you have physically partaken in the process, for me it would be like the person outside the restaurant watching me eat my meal who would then provide an opinion on the quality of the food based solely on watching the food and the way i ate it.

I would say the point is not whether you have played or not per se but if you have a footballing brain, of course actually playing the game in a structured 11 a side team does help understand certain aspects of what occurs on the pitch. Of course this is not fixed as i have come across many players who just cannot read the game and they have played in teams. Albeit not very successful ones.

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

I don't see why I am singled out specifically here.
I was at the Stockport game and I gave my honest analysis of what I saw from BS, I don't care one iota whether you're Jose Mourinho or Blind Pugh, this boy will not score the amount of goals a supporting striker needs to. How ironic some of the people who slated Alex 'the Hitman' Revell are now praising certain other individuals for what they 'bring' to a Southend shirt.

Jesus Christ people this is a man who wasn't exactly prolific for Truro City.

I'll yield to those who say he has performed above expectations as, currently, he has. However for other misguided people who are coming at things from a 180 degree perspective to me, yes you're fighting your corner as passionately as those on the other side of the fence, but surely it's time to wake up and smell the coffee, or alternatively put your money where your mouth is and answer The Seventies North Bank's different striking scenarios laid out above...

 

[southendkid]

Personally I think Sturrock isn't that good, although I've only seen our Stockport draw and the Aldershot game so maybe I can't really make that great a judgment, however I'm not going to boo one player, the only time you should boo is if you feel the whole team is playing badly, targeting one player doesn't help. Sturrock could be good but I don't think him and Corr work well together, I'd rather that Paterson played with Corr. Sturrock needs the confidence to take shots, if he can't he shouldn't be a striker

 

[Norwichshrimper]

I'd like to read your view on why Blair Sturrock isn't good enough for the football league, where he has scored 1 goal that clinched us a point, getting a standing ovation and a very big cheer and clap when he was substituted after the Brizzle City cup game (against a football league side) and after he has scored the decisive penalty in a JPT cup match (against a football league side). I'd like to read why you think he isn't good enough, don't take this as I'm being a patronising idiot, I purely am interested in your opinion.

I'm not saying he's totally useless but the answer to your question is simple. He lacks quality. You could put any striker from the Conference or even down to Conference North/South divisions in a Division 4 team and they'd score the odd goal, and probably have the odd decent game when opposition didn't play welll - but that wouldn't make them "Football League Class" Sturrock has good points. he knows one side of a football pitch from t'other and in fairness to him that bit of knowledge probably makes up for a lack of tangible quality, but I still don't see him as anything more than non league standard. Thats about it really. Don't quite know how to respond to your point about tucking away against Gillingham? - not sure how that's relevant to him being good enough for this level?? I have people from my old saturday team who could probably whack a penalty away if push came to shove but I wouldn't be dusting them down for a game next week.

That's something to go on. But it's just my opinion and I promise you I will be big enough to eat humble pie if he proves me wrong. Being first and foremost a Southend fan, I sincerely hope he does.

 

[ibwiajwa]

O.K. guys. Lets see which fans that have defended Blair are willing to answer this and be honest. A hypothetical question for all of you. We play our strongest side all season, where do you think we would finish?

A. With Corr and Sturrock up front =

B. With Corr and Paterson =

C. With Corr and Theo Robinson type goalscorer =


My answers by the way are; A=11TH B=7TH C=2ND




Anyone thinking Blair and Paterson or Spencer. It doesn't bear thinking about.

Who wouldn't want a Theo Robinson type striker on a season long loan? I don't understand all the slagging off of Blair Sturrock. He and Corr have been the ones to perform this season so far, so the boss has gone with them. Paterson flatters to deceive and Screech (who I believe is injured) tries hard but has a headless chicken quality to him. Sturrock has forgotten more about football than most of us know so the only possible criticism of his decision is nepotism and I just don't buy it, based on what I've seen of our strikers this season.

 

[OldBlueLady]

I don't think anybody has actually said that.

It's clearly been explained that, you are more likely to know more about the game and have a clearer understanding if you have played football or you play football! That doesn't mean that you can't evaluate it. Some people clearly know a lot of things about football without having played the game. The statement doesn't count for 100 percent of people. Just a fair majority.

It's certainly been alluded to, and as for saying that if you haven't played then you don't understand, it's funny how highly thought of McCormack was for his midfield play by supporters of other teams, and impartials, and yet the majority on here - even those who've played - thought he was cack. Likewise the backward and sideways passing, when for most the very fact of keeping possession is denying the opposition the chance to attack and potentially score.

Tilson's style of play is not Sturrock's, times have moved on, we are playing a completely different method than what we are used to and if this is why it's difficult for people to appreciate Blair then they need to get used to the idea. I think he brings a lot to the team, I've not seen anyone else in the team who can cross as well as him, nor hold the ball up as well. I just don't believe he and Corr are a viable strike force.

 

[superblue24]

In total agreement with TSNB and GlasgowSUFC on the Blair Sturrock subject. He is a poor player on decent form at the moment.

All this "I dont care how he scores them" is just nonsense. He scored a goal off his shin on that occasion, but what are you going to be saying when the ball cannons off his shin and goes wide next time? It was lucky that the ball ended up in the net on that occasion. 8 out of 10 times that ball would have been skewing off for a goal kick, but fortunately it trickled over the line.

Paul Sturrock has said that he is building a team of LEAGUE ONE players. Even if I were to accept that he was good enough for league two, I certainly do not consider him anywhere near good enough for league one. I pretty much expect the same outcome as TSNB's league placings with the different blends of attackers shown. Why we didnt get our hands on a goalscorer is just beyond me. Akinbiyi, Akinfenwa, McLeod......They all would of been brilliant for us! We would be looking at bouncing straight back up again.