'Fan' last night

[sufc_stu]

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Quote[/b] (The Flying Scotsman @ Feb. 17 2005,12:22)]It was pretty busy!! 2nd half it got better.

So whats the fuss all about then?

The entire first 45 minutes having him shouting Agogo is a rapist. It got pretty boring after 5 minutes!!

Well why didn’t you start a new song off then?

No need. You were starting off the Southend ones!!  

Who me, never!!!

Well you were until you started to lose your voice ...

Ha ha, well I tried! Too much cider and fags I think!

 

[fbm]

Is it that people were annoyed not with what was said but more the fact that it was said with incredible regularity?

It's like a joke - no matter how funny, if you keep hearing it the effect is lost.

BOB C - I only quoted the "moral right" bit to identify which side of the fence I sit rather than to imply you condoned the behaviour.

More crossed wires...

 

[BoyWonder2]

Quote[/b] (Gremlin @ Feb. 17 2005,14:09)]

Quote[/b] (BoyWonder2 @ Feb. 17 2005,14:03)]Agogo was cleared of attempted rape and therefore should be abused.

Hmmmmm.

There must have been something innit for it to go all the way to court, thats all I'm saying...

 

[Barry the dog]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Feb. 17 2005,14:18)]Is it that people were annoyed not with what was said but more the fact that it was said with incredible regularity?

It's like a joke - no matter how funny, if you keep hearing it the effect is lost.

BOB C - I only quoted the "moral right" bit to identify which side of the fence I sit rather than to imply you condoned the behaviour.  

More crossed wires...

Give it a rest will you.

 

[Gremlin]

Quote[/b] (BoyWonder2 @ Feb. 17 2005,14:22)]

Quote[/b] (Gremlin @ Feb. 17 2005,14:09)]

Quote[/b] (BoyWonder2 @ Feb. 17 2005,14:03)]Agogo was cleared of attempted rape and therefore should be abused.

Hmmmmm.

There must have been something innit for it to go all the way to court, thats all I'm saying...

The Birmingham Six went a lot further than that without there being anything "innit".

 

[jro]

I too was in that section and must say I chuckled first time and then got quite annoyed by it. If it is ok for this kind of behaviour as most seem to be defending on here why did the Police ask him/them to stop it?

The same person also within two minutes of the start of the game was hanging off of the railings offering Bristol supports out for a fight and slitting his thumb across his throat and shouting rather personal abuse – this was in part returned by the Bristol supports so I do not wish to be singling out individuals or southend supports.

It has been said here it is part of the game accept it – why?

Why should this behaviour be accepted, these people are adults – is it ok to be out clearly for a fight, or is it as I expect as soon as outside all parties scurried off to the coach/home as quickly as possible? The segregation does seem to make people a lot braver than had they been stood next to each other.

The really sad fact is just behind the dead space between the two sets of fans were seated disabled supports one of which was accompanied by a young girl (approx 9 – 11 years old) who looked most upset and I am not sure when the left but it was before the end of the game. What kind of example was set to this girl? Is this one future football support that may never return?

 

[* ORM *]

Quote[/b] (Its grim up north! @ Feb. 17 2005,13:45)]Gingers son? Is that the fat bloke with the loud voice?

In fairness it is unlikely to be the meek, skinny little runt.

Yes, is the answer to your question.

For the record I stood behind Bob C on Tuesday night and he was a model fan. All I heard him singing was "There's only one Kevin Maher" and "Go Tes Go !".

 

[sufc_stu]

Quote[/b] (jro @ Feb. 17 2005,16:22)]I too was in that section and must say I chuckled first time and then got quite annoyed by it.  If it is ok for this kind of behaviour as most seem to be defending on here why did the Police ask him/them to stop it?

The same person also within two minutes of the start of the game was hanging off of the railings offering Bristol supports out for a fight and slitting his thumb across his throat and shouting rather personal abuse – this was in part returned by the Bristol supports so I do not wish to be singling out individuals or southend supports.

It has been said here it is part of the game accept it – why?

Why should this behaviour be accepted, these people are adults – is it ok to be out clearly for a fight, or is it as I expect as soon as outside all parties scurried off to the coach/home as quickly as possible? The segregation does seem to make people a lot braver than had they been stood next to each other.

The really sad fact is just behind the dead space between the two sets of fans were seated disabled supports one of which was accompanied by a young girl (approx 9 – 11 years old) who looked most upset and I am not sure when the left but it was before the end of the game.  What kind of example was set to this girl?  Is this one future football support that may never return?

Your language is terrible save it for the terraces!

 

[TrueBlue]

Quote[/b] ]I too was in that section and must say I chuckled first time and then got quite annoyed by it. If it is ok for this kind of behaviour as most seem to be defending on here why did the Police ask him/them to stop it?

The same person also within two minutes of the start of the game was hanging off of the railings offering Bristol supports out for a fight and slitting his thumb across his throat and shouting rather personal abuse – this was in part returned by the Bristol supports so I do not wish to be singling out individuals or southend supports.

It has been said here it is part of the game accept it – why?

Why should this behaviour be accepted, these people are adults – is it ok to be out clearly for a fight, or is it as I expect as soon as outside all parties scurried off to the coach/home as quickly as possible? The segregation does seem to make people a lot braver than had they been stood next to each other.

The really sad fact is just behind the dead space between the two sets of fans were seated disabled supports one of which was accompanied by a young girl (approx 9 – 11 years old) who looked most upset and I am not sure when the left but it was before the end of the game. What kind of example was set to this girl? Is this one future football support that may never return?

all you can do is moan

 

[fbm]

Quote[/b] (Barry the dog @ Feb. 17 2005,14:33)]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Feb. 17 2005,14:18)]Is it that people were annoyed not with what was said but more the fact that it was said with incredible regularity?

It's like a joke - no matter how funny, if you keep hearing it the effect is lost.

BOB C - I only quoted the "moral right" bit to identify which side of the fence I sit rather than to imply you condoned the behaviour.  

More crossed wires...

Give it a rest will you.

oooohh... touchy...

 

[Javea Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Its grim up north! @ Feb. 17 2005,13:45)]Gingers son? Is that the fat bloke with the loud voice?

He was ****ed as a fart and a complete arse at the away fixture to Kiddie!
Having a go at Jack for using his drum, and singing about having a trumpet.
I dont doubt his loyalty towards the club but I do think anyone who wants to start fight's with a fellow supporter for using a drum is a bit of an idiot!
Jack should of wrapped his drum round his f**king head!!!!!!!

Same bloke who threw bottles at the landlord of the Spread Eagle (Terry) a couple of years back and then proceeded to pull down the big screen on his way out.

Same bloke who kicked apart a couple of tables in the Plough when Beckham scored THAT free-kick against Greece to put us in the World Cup Finals in Japan.

WS

 

[Thenewblue]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ Feb. 17 2005,20:23)]

Quote[/b] (Its grim up north! @ Feb. 17 2005,13:45)]Gingers son? Is that the fat bloke with the loud voice?

He was ****ed as a fart and a complete arse at the away fixture to Kiddie!
Having a go at Jack for using his drum, and singing about having a trumpet.
I dont doubt his loyalty towards the club but I do think anyone who wants to start fight's with a fellow supporter for using a drum is a bit of an idiot!
Jack should of wrapped his drum round his f**king head!!!!!!!

Same bloke who threw bottles at the landlord of the Spread Eagle (Terry) a couple of years back and then proceeded to pull down the big screen on his way out.

Same bloke who kicked apart a couple of tables in the Plough when Beckham scored THAT free-kick against Greece to put us in the World Cup Finals in Japan.

WS

See at times, like at Upton Park, when half the support stayed behind and sang our hearts out for 10 minutes after the final whistle I feel so proud to be a Southend fan. Other times normally when this 'gingers son' is involved I feel ashamed to be associated in any way. I remember his behaviour from a few games and personally wish he would support West ham or Millwall as his behaviour suggests he should do.

 

[J]

Quote[/b] (Thenewblue @ Feb. 17 2005,21:31)]

Quote[/b] (Jávea Shrimper @ Feb. 17 2005,20:23)]

Quote[/b] (Its grim up north! @ Feb. 17 2005,13:45)]Gingers son? Is that the fat bloke with the loud voice?

He was ****ed as a fart and a complete arse at the away fixture to Kiddie!
Having a go at Jack for using his drum, and singing about having a trumpet.
I dont doubt his loyalty towards the club but I do think anyone who wants to start fight's with a fellow supporter for using a drum is a bit of an idiot!
Jack should of wrapped his drum round his f**king head!!!!!!!

Same bloke who threw bottles at the landlord of the Spread Eagle (Terry) a couple of years back and then proceeded to pull down the big screen on his way out.

Same bloke who kicked apart a couple of tables in the Plough when Beckham scored THAT free-kick against Greece to put us in the World Cup Finals in Japan.

WS

See at times, like at Upton Park, when half the support stayed behind and sang our hearts out for 10 minutes after the final whistle I feel so proud to be a Southend fan. Other times normally when this 'gingers son' is involved I feel ashamed to be associated in any way. I remember his behaviour from a few games and personally wish he would support West ham or Millwall as his behaviour suggests he should do.

perhaps instead of hounding him on this board, you could go and speak to his face. Surely this board is not for naming and shaming, although i do not condone the actions of the named individual i feel that if any of you put a foot wrong i should hope that you get named and shamed and hounded as well. Would you like it?

 

[Thenewblue]

Quote[/b] (CS J @ Feb. 17 2005,21:36)]

Quote[/b] (Thenewblue @ Feb. 17 2005,21:31)]

Quote[/b] (Jávea Shrimper @ Feb. 17 2005,20:23)]

Quote[/b] (Its grim up north! @ Feb. 17 2005,13:45)]Gingers son? Is that the fat bloke with the loud voice?

He was ****ed as a fart and a complete arse at the away fixture to Kiddie!
Having a go at Jack for using his drum, and singing about having a trumpet.
I dont doubt his loyalty towards the club but I do think anyone who wants to start fight's with a fellow supporter for using a drum is a bit of an idiot!
Jack should of wrapped his drum round his f**king head!!!!!!!

Same bloke who threw bottles at the landlord of the Spread Eagle (Terry) a couple of years back and then proceeded to pull down the big screen on his way out.

Same bloke who kicked apart a couple of tables in the Plough when Beckham scored THAT free-kick against Greece to put us in the World Cup Finals in Japan.

WS

See at times, like at Upton Park, when half the support stayed behind and sang our hearts out for 10 minutes after the final whistle I feel so proud to be a Southend fan. Other times normally when this 'gingers son' is involved I feel ashamed to be associated in any way. I remember his behaviour from a few games and personally wish he would support West ham or Millwall as his behaviour suggests he should do.

perhaps instead of hounding him on this board, you could go and speak to his face. Surely this board is not for naming and shaming, although i do not condone the actions of the named individual i feel that if any of you put a foot wrong i should hope that you get named and shamed and hounded as well. Would you like it?

Yeah good idea! And when i'm released from hospital and got my false teeth I could go and approach him again?!
Plus its not like its unusual for him is it? More like a weekly event.

 

[J]

Quote[/b] ]Yeah good idea! And when i'm released from hospital and got my false teeth I could go and approach him again?!

exactly, if you can't say it to his face then why come on here and do it...im sure people would agree with me, and as i said i do not condone the actions but this board cannot be used for this type of thing...

 

[Suffolk Shrimper In Dorset]

oh well, I at least seem to have sparked a debate which differs from the norm.

Some fair opinions either way by all accounts, though I suspect that anyone bar the moronic could not help but be a tad ashamed at what went on if that was for instance themselves viewing a video of themselves the following day (sober) doing what he did (if that makes sense). Couldn't imagine feeling too proud saying "Look son, that is me".

Ho hum.???

 

[J]

Quote[/b] (Suffolk Shrimper @ Feb. 17 2005,22:03)]oh well, I at least seem to have sparked a debate which differs from the norm.

Some fair opinions either way by all accounts, though I suspect that anyone bar the moronic could not help but be a tad ashamed at what went on if that was for instance themselves viewing a video of themselves the following day (sober) doing what he did (if that makes sense). Couldn't imagine feeling too proud saying "Look son, that is me".

Ho hum.???

he can do what he wants, those who beg to differ, why do you take it up with him? i think this topic should now be locked as i feel people should not be allowed to hound people like this in a public forum...

 

[Thenewblue]

Quote[/b] (CS J @ Feb. 17 2005,21:42)]

Quote[/b] ]Yeah good idea! And when i'm released from hospital and got my false teeth I could go and approach him again?!

exactly, if you can't say it to his face then why come on here and do it...im sure people would agree with me, and as i said i do not condone the actions but this board cannot be used for this type of thing...

Then why is this thread 6 pages long? Of course it can be used for this matter, its something related to Southend Utd FC so therefore of interest to this board no?

 

[Suffolk Shrimper In Dorset]

Quote[/b] (* ORM * @ Feb. 17 2005,08:03)]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Feb. 16 2005,22:48)]I'm afraid I find the behaviour of many of our "fans" embarrassing.

You know nothing. I follow the Blues and I am a much better fan than you and I will stand up to fight rival scum to the bitter death. Oh, and my moronic taunt put him off of his penalty. What have you got to say to that ? Ner Ner

PS - How Ironic that the same Spawn of Ginger (allegedly at the forefront) was pictured in the Echo last night celebrating Gower's goal.

Anyone care to paste a copy of the Echo pic on SZ?

Just want to check I wasn't pictured shaking hands the alleged congratulating him on his articulate support and its part in our victory.

 

[sufcintheprem]

Quote[/b] (CS J @ Feb. 17 2005,22:08)]

Quote[/b] (Suffolk Shrimper @ Feb. 17 2005,22:03)]oh well, I at least seem to have sparked a debate which differs from the norm.

Some fair opinions either way by all accounts, though I suspect that anyone bar the moronic could not help but be a tad ashamed at what went on if that was for instance themselves viewing a video of themselves the following day (sober) doing what he did (if that makes sense). Couldn't imagine feeling too proud saying "Look son, that is me".

Ho hum.???

he can do what he wants, those who beg to differ, why do you take it up with him? i think this topic should now be locked as i feel people should not be allowed to hound people like this in a public forum...

I've no idea who he is but to take it up with him really sounds like it will do no good for anyone whatsoever.

But, I do reckon it's relevant and clearly it's interesting.