Question Should the FA allow smoke bombs?

[londonblue]

Does seem strange how they are such a hazard yet they are allowed in most other countries

Who said they're allowed?

 

[Jim Levenstein]

Who said they're allowed?

Well the amount they are used I just assumed they were. I have got better things to do with my day rather than look up if the Italian, Turkish etc FA's allow flares and all that.

 

[Suffolk Blue]

I'd like to know how many people around the world have had asthma attacks as a direct result of smoke bombs; also if any fires have started as a result of them. I think they look quite atmospheric and would allow them if there was no evidence of them causing harm or danger. Flares and fireworks though are a no-brainer, despite being very common at games overseas. These pyros burn very fiercely while, as far as I'm aware, smoke bombs burn fairly slowly.

Interesting too that televised matches on Sky have fireworks (or once did, if they don't now). I recall clouds of smoke coming off of these and drifting into the stands but don't recall there being any outcry.

 

[Bolton Shrimper]

Why do we need this discussion they are illegal and its not down to the FL or FA.................In any event I think they look naff and are very annoying, sooo unenglish along with flares.

 

[Pubey]

I'd like to know how many people around the world have had asthma attacks as a direct result of smoke bombs; also if any fires have started as a result of them. I think they look quite atmospheric and would allow them if there was no evidence of them causing harm or danger. Flares and fireworks though are a no-brainer, despite being very common at games overseas. These pyros burn very fiercely while, as far as I'm aware, smoke bombs burn fairly slowly.

Interesting too that televised matches on Sky have fireworks (or once did, if they don't now). I recall clouds of smoke coming off of these and drifting into the stands but don't recall there being any outcry.

Asthmatics have serious exacerbations caused by smoke all the time. It's common and serious

I doubt they have many exacerbations caused by smoke bombs because they'll avoid the (very few) situations where they are allowed to be used.

If you think that therefore smoke bombs are fine at a football ground and asthmatics and others with breathing conditions should just not come, then personally I think you're a selfish ****

 

[londonblue]

Well the amount they are used I just assumed they were. I have got better things to do with my day rather than look up if the Italian, Turkish etc FA's allow flares and all that.

So why did you make a statement that they're allowed in other countries? Can we assume then that you were guessing?

 

[Jim Levenstein]

So why did you make a statement that they're allowed in other countries. Can we assume then that you were guessing?

hahahahaha this is a forum mate we aren't in court

 

[londonblue]

hahahahaha this is a forum mate we aren't in court

So that's a yes then.

 

[Pubey]

Flares have been banned by the Turkish FA.

 

[RobM]

Here's the view from Preston NE;

http://www.pnefc.net/news/article/warning-regarding-flares-smoke-bombs-and-pyrotechnics-2432849.aspx

 

[We're not Cockneys]

No from me for two reasons. Firstly I sit in block V with my asthmatic brother and even I found it unpleasant. Secondly, a small puff of blue/white smoke drifting through the stand looks a bit ****.

 

[Its Only A Game]

I really just don't get how obscuring the view of the game adds to the atmosphere.

 

[Danshrimper]

Try looking at the signs on the wall outside the ground by the turnstiles as you go in, they clearly state it is illegal.

I'm not condoning smoke bombs in football stadiums nor was I denying that they are illegal in football stadiums (I probably should have made that more clear) I was just wondering if and when they are illegal outside of football stadiums which is admittedly unrelated to this thread.

 

[Danshrimper]

There was an article linked to the other day where it was mentioned you can get a 3 month sentence for it.

Its not illegal to run on the pitch at a sunday league game, some things are just legal issues at sporting events.

Just because you can use smoke bombs in certain situations (plumbers use them) doesnt mean they are legally used anywhere.

Thanks, I was aware that they were illegal inside football stadiums was just wondering when and where they are illegal outside of football stadiums.

 

[Csboy]

No from me for two reasons. Firstly I sit in block V with my asthmatic brother and even I found it unpleasant. Secondly, a small puff of blue/white smoke drifting through the stand looks a bit ****.

Yes the idiots who let them off never think of the affect they might have on other people

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

No, they're a health and fire hazard.

How do you start a fire without a naked flame?!

 

[MK Shrimper]

How do you start a fire without a naked flame?!

Er, heat.....

 

[RobM]

You need three things for fire.


Fuel, oxygen and a source of ignition. It's called "the fire triangle". Remove any of those three and no fire will occur.

 

[RobM]

How do you start a fire without a naked flame?!

How about focussing the sun's rays with a magnifying glass, a static spark, an electrical discharge, spontaneous combustion (not human) eg. a compost heap can generate sufficient heat to combust, electrical induction (e.g. through an extension lead uncoiled running excess wattage), a spark from two flints, a car cigarette lighter.

 

[Fred]

And how would you do that?

The same 'no' answer for me as they are a complete distraction for both players and supporters.