Post-Match Thread and Ratings Wolves 2-1 Southend United AET

[palexander]

The Zaaboub appreciation group starts here!

At last, I can update my sig.

I'm in! :)

 

[Tommy2holes]

Personally think zaboub is a lot like scannell tbh . Has the potential to be very good but is woefully unfit and maybe its his style of play but looks woefully uninterested.

I would like to see more of hall as zaboub and soares have failed to impress me.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Interesting Matt, I look forward to pro and anti Zaaboub debates in the same vein as previous Moussa ones! I know the guy has shown glimpses of good stuff, some excellent backheels and that, but the rest of the team are not reading this, and as Zaaboub clearly needs to sort out his match fitness and awareness in my opinion he should be having a concentrated run in the reserves and NOT the first team just yet. He's costing us a heck of a lot of possession and putting pressure on other players and we simply can't afford that at the moment.

 

[Pubey]

It's Moussa all over again isn't it?

Zaaboub is clearly the only player we've got with any class (hey, we're in division 4, that goes with the territory). Actually that's probably a bit harsh on Simpson, who has some class. But the rest of them are clearly functional in their passing lacking the technique and vision to deliver weighted, intelligent passes onto a player's correct foot.

Zaaboub's rusty as hell, clearly lacking match fitness (which is why he played and why his performances tail off) but you can see in occasional glimpses that he has that sort of quality. It might not always come off, but he's the one player who can inject quality into the team. He's following in the footsteps of two other criminally underappreciated talents, Moussa and Gower and I feel sorry for those who failed to appreciate what they brought to the team.

There wasn't much I could take from the Port Vale game, but our two best moves were both down to Zaaboub. One of them saw Zaaboub break from his own penalty area, beat an opponent or two and have the presence of mind to still deliver a good 40 yard ball to Clohessy to switch the focus of attack to the area where there was space. The other saw him link up with Barker, where his intelligent movement created space for Barker to overlap and he then pick him out with a simple, properly weighted ball which allowed Barker to collect the ball without breaking stride and put in a dangerous cross. It may have looked easy, but it's a skill to make it look easy and was down to his appreciation of angles and his initial movement inside, which both opened up the pass to him and created the space for Barker.

I appreciate the headless chickens as much as the next man, but I like to see it balanced with some guile. Zaaboub has that, if not yet fitness. I can't wait for him to be fit.



By tackle do you mean dive in?

Incidentally, Moussa started last night against Leeds and fans have been really impressed with him. Sounds like they recognise his talents.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I'm in! :)

Good man. Click on the link in my now updated signature.

Which may or may not work

 

[OldBlueLady]

Incidentally, Moussa started last night against Leeds and fans have been really impressed with him. Sounds like they recognise his talents.

:offtopic: Ex Shrimpers!!!!!!! ;)

 

[palexander]

Good man. Click on the link in my now updated signature.

Which may or may not work

Says I havent got permissions :(

 

[MattLloyd]

It's Moussa all over again isn't it?

Zaaboub is clearly the only player we've got with any class (hey, we're in division 4, that goes with the territory). Actually that's probably a bit harsh on Simpson, who has some class. But the rest of them are clearly functional in their passing lacking the technique and vision to deliver weighted, intelligent passes onto a player's correct foot.

Zaaboub's rusty as hell, clearly lacking match fitness (which is why he played and why his performances tail off) but you can see in occasional glimpses that he has that sort of quality. It might not always come off, but he's the one player who can inject quality into the team. He's following in the footsteps of two other criminally underappreciated talents, Moussa and Gower and I feel sorry for those who failed to appreciate what they brought to the team.

There wasn't much I could take from the Port Vale game, but our two best moves were both down to Zaaboub. One of them saw Zaaboub break from his own penalty area, beat an opponent or two and have the presence of mind to still deliver a good 40 yard ball to Clohessy to switch the focus of attack to the area where there was space. The other saw him link up with Barker, where his intelligent movement created space for Barker to overlap and he then pick him out with a simple, properly weighted ball which allowed Barker to collect the ball without breaking stride and put in a dangerous cross. It may have looked easy, but it's a skill to make it look easy and was down to his appreciation of angles and his initial movement inside, which both opened up the pass to him and created the space for Barker.

I appreciate the headless chickens as much as the next man, but I like to see it balanced with some guile. Zaaboub has that, if not yet fitness. I can't wait for him to be fit.



No sorry, not for me! I hope that he proves me wrong and you all right but so far he has been poor in possession, created nothing (except two crosses v PV), constantly gives the ball away is completely unfit and has absolutely no defensive nowse whatsoever, in my honest opinion.

It is still early days and a good performance or two might sway me, but so far does not deserve a first 11 start.

 

[Pak Power]

I'm in the pro Zaaboub camp. I think he has a look of an unfit Hal Robson Kanu about him.
Definately not fit enough to play 90 mins (makes you wonder what he's been doing) But when fit, and dare I say it loses a few pounds, then I think we may have a little gem. Providing of course the fans keep off his back. He definately needs an hour for the time being.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Says I havent got permissions :(

Cricko!:cricko:

Dunno what's gone wrong there. Onion Bag Dave managed to join OK.

 

[blue vodka]

I feel sad but proud, no very proud to have watched the match last night.

They played a blinder and can hold their heads up high, now bring that sort of gutts and determination into the league and I can see us riding out this difficult period.

Sturrock said in his pre match interview that he hasn't got the balance of the team quite right yet, well dont think we are far off it. Get us a striker and we will all feel more positive.

Remember only a few weeks ago we didn't know if we would have a club to follow !

Well done to everyone who went.

 

[EastStandBlue]

I feel sad but proud, no very proud to have watched the match last night.

They played a blinder and can hold their heads up high, now bring that sort of gutts and determination into the league and I can see us riding out this difficult period.

Sturrock said in his pre match interview that he hasn't got the balance of the team quite right yet, well dont think we are far off it. Get us a striker and we will all feel more positive.

Remember only a few weeks ago we didn't know if we would have a club to follow !

Well done to everyone who went.

I'd love Gutts back, to be honest...

 

[Cricko]

Says I havent got permissions :(

It should be ok now if you want to try again...let me know please?

 

[madaboutblues]

It was also mentioned on the radio last night that Moshni does not speak a word of english and Zaaboub is his translator on the pitch.
If that is what it takes to get the performances we have seen from Moshni, then I am definitely in the Zaaboub camp.

However, I do feel there is something about him we have yet to see so :YB: "I'm in"

 

[BoyWonder2]

It's Moussa all over again isn't it?

Zaaboub is clearly the only player we've got with any class (hey, we're in division 4, that goes with the territory). Actually that's probably a bit harsh on Simpson, who has some class. But the rest of them are clearly functional in their passing lacking the technique and vision to deliver weighted, intelligent passes onto a player's correct foot.

Zaaboub's rusty as hell, clearly lacking match fitness (which is why he played and why his performances tail off) but you can see in occasional glimpses that he has that sort of quality. It might not always come off, but he's the one player who can inject quality into the team. He's following in the footsteps of two other criminally underappreciated talents, Moussa and Gower and I feel sorry for those who failed to appreciate what they brought to the team.

There wasn't much I could take from the Port Vale game, but our two best moves were both down to Zaaboub. One of them saw Zaaboub break from his own penalty area, beat an opponent or two and have the presence of mind to still deliver a good 40 yard ball to Clohessy to switch the focus of attack to the area where there was space. The other saw him link up with Barker, where his intelligent movement created space for Barker to overlap and he then pick him out with a simple, properly weighted ball which allowed Barker to collect the ball without breaking stride and put in a dangerous cross. It may have looked easy, but it's a skill to make it look easy and was down to his appreciation of angles and his initial movement inside, which both opened up the pass to him and created the space for Barker.

I appreciate the headless chickens as much as the next man, but I like to see it balanced with some guile. Zaaboub has that, if not yet fitness. I can't wait for him to be fit.

I agree with that to be fair.

What people are forgetting is he didn't have a Club last season, so his match fitness and sharpness isn't there at all and the only way that will improve is by getting game time. Its exactly the same as a cricket, whilst training and net work is important, there is no substitue to being out on the pitch.

Him, more than the others, we are going to have to give him time. Yes, he won't track back, but most wingers tend not to. He will make up for that when he has the ball at his feet, running at full backs and getting decent delivery into the box.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

It was also mentioned on the radio last night that Moshni does not speak a word of english and Zaaboub is his translator on the pitch.

I think that was a slight exaggeration, as he spoke some basic English when DtS asked him for a photo at Eastbourne. In fact I think he demonstrated a wider vocabulary than Johnny Herd.

If that is what it takes to get the performances we have seen from Moshni, then I am definitely in the Zaaboub camp.

However, I do feel there is something about him we have yet to see so :YB: "I'm in"

:thumbsup:

I agree with that to be fair.

What people are forgetting is he didn't have a Club last season, so his match fitness and sharpness isn't there at all and the only way that will improve is by getting game time. Its exactly the same as a cricket, whilst training and net work is important, there is no substitue to being out on the pitch.

Him, more than the others, we are going to have to give him time. Yes, he won't track back, but most wingers tend not to. He will make up for that when he has the ball at his feet, running at full backs and getting decent delivery into the box.

It's hardly surprising he isn't fit, he played about 45 minutes in pre-season! He's slowly feeling his way back from injury. The first team probably isn't the ideal place to do it, but we're short of better alternatives (Ryan Hall coming from part-time non-league football is also struggling for fitness - like Scannell and Bentley he'll need to be eased into action rather than thrown in the deep end).

 

[jarvisyeh]

To comment on people saying that Zaaboub should be dropped, I personally feel if Hall has to take anyones place, it would be Soares.. Both look alright to me, but Soares really hasn't performed, and isn't showing the signs Zaaboub is that he will improve..

 

[OldBlueLady]

I agree with that to be fair.

What people are forgetting is he didn't have a Club last season, so his match fitness and sharpness isn't there at all and the only way that will improve is by getting game time. Its exactly the same as a cricket, whilst training and net work is important, there is no substitue to being out on the pitch.

Him, more than the others, we are going to have to give him time. Yes, he won't track back, but most wingers tend not to. He will make up for that when he has the ball at his feet, running at full backs and getting decent delivery into the box.

I'm not forgetting that at all, but why does he need pitch time in the matches that matter to the fans? He needs reserve games first then first team. It's what happens to every other player so why is he different?

 

[EastStandBlue]

I think that was a slight exaggeration, as he spoke some basic English when DtS asked him for a photo at Eastbourne. In fact I think he demonstrated a wider vocabulary than Johnny Herd.

I think Johnny, Johnny Herd's English consists of "Yes, Gaffer" "Long throw" and "Barrett! I've lost him again!"

I'm not forgetting that at all, but why does he need pitch time in the matches that matter to the fans? He needs reserve games first then first team. It's what happens to every other player so why is he different?

I think he's been playing both reserve and first team football in an attempt to clamour together as much sharpness as possible in a short amount of time, as Sturrock obviously sees him as an integral player when match fit. Hall, much like Scannell, will need 6 months to get anywhere close to competitive League football I'd imagine.

 

[Pubey]

I'm not forgetting that at all, but why does he need pitch time in the matches that matter to the fans? He needs reserve games first then first team. It's what happens to every other player so why is he different?

because he's a good player who can contribute in first team games, even if not fully fit. Yes the CC was important to the fans, however it's secondary to the league. PS used it as an opportunity for some players to get some minutes under their belts.