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It's a public consultation, who are the public if not everyday working class people? Overall it is not in our hands but this very small part is and if it gets rejected because of this then it is the fans fault for not drowning out the objections and showing the project has public support

These things are never decided by public opinion. These things are decided by the size of the brown envelope :winking:
 
I meant held to account as far as blame is concerned, the blame will be firmly on his doorstep. If we don't get planning permission Ron can rightly say we didn't do our bit

What good will blaming Ron do? What practical difference will it make?

If we don't get planning permission it will have very little to do with the (lack of) support from us fans, and everything to do with the plans being submitted. It might even have something to do with how long this has taken and how fed up the council members are.

(All that said, I suspect the latest amendments to the plans are in response to concerns and issues raised by the planning officers and that, since these have been addressed, the plans will be recommended for approval, and then approved.)
 
What good will blaming Ron do? What practical difference will it make?

If we don't get planning permission it will have very little to do with the (lack of) support from us fans, and everything to do with the plans being submitted. It might even have something to do with how long this has taken and how fed up the council members are.

(All that said, I suspect the latest amendments to the plans are in response to concerns and issues raised by the planning officers and that, since these have been addressed, the plans will be recommended for approval, and then approved.)

It won't make any practical difference. If we have a situation where we are denied permission and we have little public support then Ron would have a valid reply to criticism, he asked for our support and didn't get it.

I don't know if you have registered personally and supported the project or not? But it would literally take the time you are spending debating this with me and is far more productive.

Whether you think it is going to make a difference or not the fact is that the Club have asked us to support it, I'm not sure why they would if they didn't think it might help us? It takes no more than 10 mins and I don't understand why any fan wouldn't do it personally.
 
We have a system in NR called "close call" where if you see something that may cause an injury, you report it and hopefully it'll get resolved - dodgy electrical cables, tripping hazards in the cess walkway for example.

I've just receieved an email as some utter ****wit has reported tinsel on monitors as a health hazard and everyone has been instructed to take it down.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 
It won't make any practical difference. If we have a situation where we are denied permission and we have little public support then Ron would have a valid reply to criticism, he asked for our support and didn't get it.

I don't see how Ron could blame us. The success or failure of this project will be weather or not the plans are acceptable to the council.

A precedent has already been set: plans have been approved previously, so unless one (or more) of the comments against the application are specific to the current iteration and not just a generic "we don't want a new stadium" then the plans will be approved regardless of the public comments.

The plans have been changed again recently and one can only surmise that those changes were to ensure the planning officers are happy, and that any comments specific to the current plans have been addressed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying don't write to the council. I'm just saying if you think people should do it to ensure Ron can't blame us fans for any failure then I think you're suggesting doing it for the wrong reason: a) they're probably going to be passed anyway, and b) any failure will be because the plans aren't adequate and not because not enough people supported it.
 
We have a system in NR called "close call" where if you see something that may cause an injury, you report it and hopefully it'll get resolved - dodgy electrical cables, tripping hazards in the cess walkway for example.

I've just receieved an email as some utter ****wit has reported tinsel on monitors as a health hazard and everyone has been instructed to take it down.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

What a hero.
 
We have a system in NR called "close call" where if you see something that may cause an injury, you report it and hopefully it'll get resolved - dodgy electrical cables, tripping hazards in the cess walkway for example.

I've just receieved an email as some utter ****wit has reported tinsel on monitors as a health hazard and everyone has been instructed to take it down.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Un-bloody-believable!
 
It won't make any practical difference. If we have a situation where we are denied permission and we have little public support then Ron would have a valid reply to criticism, he asked for our support and didn't get it

But the person who stands to lose the most is Ron, not us? The club will still be here, in some form, and the only person who would have bollocksed this all up, would be Martin.
 
I would have thought in all honesty, it would be with Colchester. Convenient, and in a different division so no conflict. Difference in time getting to the ground would be very similar for us, and, I suspect, for several others!

Not while I have a hole in my arse.
 
I would have thought in all honesty, it would be with Colchester. Convenient, and in a different division so no conflict. Difference in time getting to the ground would be very similar for us, and, I suspect, for several others!

How is Colchester convenient?

There's no direct public transport connection between it and Southend.

If tonight's match was at the Care in the Community Stadium, fans leaving at the full-time whistle wouldn't get to Southend Victoria until 23:48.

And if everyone's driving there the A12 isn't going to be fun when you get stuck behind a tractor.

It would be the death knell of the club.
 

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