Ukip

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Surely more proof that the wrong man is leading the party?
It's where you're not strong is where you need to be picking up, not the other way around.

I don't think he is the wrong man to lead the party - he is different to what has been on offer previously which means some people will initially reject him as he is not what they expect and some people will embrace it as something they can rally around. Those embracing are enthusiastic and energetic. Within the Labour Party many of those who rejected it are starting to say positive things as he is widely accepted to have 'beaten' May in the 3 PMQs since the 2nd leadership. It's a gradual process - poll wise it looks way off but in bi-elections it doesn't at all.

 

[londonblue]

I don't think he is the wrong man to lead the party - he is different to what has been on offer previously which means some people will initially reject him as he is not what they expect and some people will embrace it as something they can rally around. Those embracing are enthusiastic and energetic. Within the Labour Party many of those who rejected it are starting to say positive things as he is widely accepted to have 'beaten' May in the 3 PMQs since the 2nd leadership. It's a gradual process - poll wise it looks way off but in bi-elections it doesn't at all.

And yet he's the worst performing leader of the opposition ever. That's going some.

 

[Stan33]

If I was a betting man ,I would wager my house on him never b ing elected as a Prime Minister !

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

And yet he's the worst performing leader of the opposition ever. That's going some.

Under him Labour have won all Parliamentary bi-elections with the exception of the 25,000 majority Cameron gave up, and have won all Mayoralities including the one Boris Johnson was vacating. If he performs badly in opinion polls of a thousand people at a time and the party do well in elections then that is fine by me.

To get back on track though - post Cameron's referendum UKIP vote is dropping in elections and in terms of leadership their new one lasted 18 days, their most likely replacement was hospitalised after an internal disagreement then quit the party, and their old leader now interim leader is off campaigning for Trump (with possible revelations about working in US illegally and off shore tax avoidance coming his way).

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

And yet he's the worst performing leader of the opposition ever. That's going some.

Surely not worse than Michael Howard or William Hague?They were useless.

 

[Ailsa Road Shrimper]

Surely not worse than Michael Howard or William Hague?They were useless.

Ian Duncan Smith was pretty forgettable too.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Ian Duncan Smith was pretty forgettable too.

Yup.Forgot him completely.:smiles:

 

[londonblue]

Yup.Forgot him completely.:smiles:

How can you forget IBS? He's the one that said he went to the University of Perugia, but they had no knowledge of him, and it turned out he went to some other college in Perugia and left after a year having not taken any exams or gained any qualifications. He's also the one that claims to have studied at Dunchurch College of Management, but once again he left after taking some courses that added up to less than a month, and again didn't gain any qualifications.

 

[MK Shrimper]

How can you forget IBS?

I'd avoid spicy food if I was you. :unsure:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37786753

I see UKIP aren't running a candidate against Zac Goldsmith in the Richmond by-election.Always thought there there was a cosy relationship between UKIP and the Tories.

At least Labour have the guts to run a candidate.

 

[RHB]

How can you forget IBS? He's the one that said he went to the University of Perugia, but they had no knowledge of him, and it turned out he went to some other college in Perugia and left after a year having not taken any exams or gained any qualifications. He's also the one that claims to have studied at Dunchurch College of Management, but once again he left after taking some courses that added up to less than a month, and again didn't gain any qualifications.

Are we talking Irritable Bowel Syndrome here, LB?

 

[londonblue]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37786753

I see UKIP aren't running a candidate against Zac Goldsmith in the Richmond by-election.Always thought there there was a cosy relationship between UKIP and the Tories.

At least Labour have the guts to run a candidate.

I think it's more a case that they know they'd lose, and don't want (at this point in time) to look any worse than they already do.

 

[londonblue]

Are we talking Irritable Bowel Syndrome here, LB?

Isn't he the human equivalent?

(It wasn't a typo.)

 

[MK Shrimper]

So Raheem Kassam quits the UKIP leadership race in order to go to the US to help Trump's campaign. How odd - the Muslim son of an immigrant family wants to be an immigrant in the USA to help a virulently anti-immigration, anti-muslim, bigoted presidential candidate.

 

[Benfleet A1]

So Raheem Kassam quits the UKIP leadership race in order to go to the US to help Trump's campaign. How odd - the Muslim son of an immigrant family wants to be an immigrant in the USA to help a virulently anti-immigration, anti-muslim, bigoted presidential candidate.

And glossing over the fact that he is pretty much an unknown to the electorate and Nuttal and Evans both dispise him and would have hounded him out after either of them win.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Former UKIP leader Diane James has quit the party and is now an independent MEP (same as Stephen Woolfe who was expected to become new leader until the UKIP internal fist fight happened). As an MEP would she be liable for a share of their debts if the party goes bankrupt? Maybe her decision to leave is a financial one.

 

[MK Shrimper]

It's a shame that George Dawes is now the leader of UKIP.

Always like the Baked Potato song as well.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

It's a shame that George Dawes is now the leader of UKIP.

Always like the Baked Potato song as well.

Personable bloke.As a scouser he could hoover up a lot of Labour votes for UKIP in the Midlands/North.:unsure:

 

[MK Shrimper]

Personable bloke.As a scouser he could hoover up a lot of Labour votes for UKIP in the Midlands/North.:unsure:

Wouldn't worry, he'll probably jack it in in a few weeks and that gobshite Farage will be back as leader.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Personable bloke.As a scouser he could hoover up a lot of Labour votes for UKIP in the Midlands/North.:unsure:

He does have a bit of personality, if I have to see one of their ilk on my TV I'd rather it him than Farage. Strong possibility they will go bankrupt very soon so may no longer be a party to lead.