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I'm not a member anymore but I said from the start that he was the wrong choice. Its Susanne Evans or nobody. Personally, I think they should call it a day.
 
Benfleet A1 said:
I'm not a member anymore but I said from the start that he was the wrong choice. Its Susanne Evans or nobody. Personally, I think they should call it a day.
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Saw her on the Daily Politics yesterday.She was very keen to stress that she's an "independent" these days.

Edit.Sorry that was Diane James.Always get them mixed up.:smile:
 
It's quite clear that the Tories won Copeland because of UKIP voters switching their votes to the Tories.

Inevitably, Mrs May's Tory government will start to lose support once Brexit negotiations begin in earnest.

It'll be interesting to see what UKIP's 2015 GE voters, (3.8 million), decide to do in future by-elections and indeed in the next general election.
 
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A cursory look at the figures shows that Labour's share of the vote in the constituency had been declining for some time.

The 2015 GE turned the seat into a Labour marginal.

On the subject of UKIP I firmly believe that they are now a spent force in British politics.
 
Tangled up in Blue said:
A cursory look at the figures shows that Labour's share of the vote in the constituency had been declining for some time.

The 2015 GE turned the seat into a Labour marginal.

On the subject of UKIP I firmly believe that they are now a spent force in British politics.
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its true that the Labour vote had a gradual decline and Jamie Reed was a poor quality and divisive MP which locals will have been aware of, plus Corbyn's CND past doesn't help in that constituency. But I'm with Londonblue on this - Labour lost Copeland purely and simply because they didn't get enough votes.

I agree with you that Stoke is likely to be the last time UKIP are considered challengers in any election.
 
Tangled up in Blue said:
A cursory look at the figures shows that Labour's share of the vote in the constituency had been declining for some time.

The 2015 GE turned the seat into a Labour marginal.

On the subject of UKIP I firmly believe that they are now a spent force in British politics.
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So I'm right. They didn't gain enough votes to win.

I could have added "...a constituency they have never lost".

Well done Corduroy.
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
its true that the Labour vote had a gradual decline and Jamie Reed was a poor quality and divisive MP which locals will have been aware of, plus Corbyn's CND past doesn't help in that constituency. But I'm with Londonblue on this - Labour lost Copeland purely and simply because they didn't get enough votes.

I agree with you that Stoke is likely to be the last time UKIP are considered challengers in any election.
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londonblue said:
So I'm right. They didn't gain enough votes to win.

I could have added "...a constituency they have never lost".

Well done Corduroy.
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While it's obviously true that Labour "didn't get enough votes to win" in Copeland that's hardly helpful as an analysis of why Labour lost there.

UKIP switchers from the 2015 GE contributed massively to Labour's defeat.

I suspect that will be the extent of UKIP's future contribution to by-elections and probably the next GE.Otherwise they are finished as a political force in the UK,IMO.
 
Calling agent Nuttall....Calling agent Nuttall... Return to Tory base your work is complete. Anyone but you could have won the Stoke By-election so well done for keeping our best asset, Jeremy Corbyn, as Labour leader.

By playing your role of a lying untrustworthy Scouser you have guaranteed that millions of voters will return to the Tory party. Which means certain victory at the next GE, no matter what happens with Brexit......Message complete.
 
rigsby said:
Calling agent Nuttall....Calling agent Nuttall... Return to Tory base your work is complete. Anyone but you could have won the Stoke By-election so well done for keeping our best asset, Jeremy Corbyn, as Labour leader.

By playing your role of a lying untrustworthy Scouser you have guaranteed that millions of voters will return to the Tory party. Which means certain victory at the next GE, no matter what happens with Brexit......Message complete.
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an odd one this as Farage has labelled UKIP's one MP a 'Tory posh boy' (Farage is famous for his love of Thatcher....a Tory) and Banks is planning to stand against Carswell at the next election. Nuttall's approach being scrutinised internally too. So are they just Tories as you say? And their plan was to lose elections you say (multiple achievements there). All very confusing. An interesting read here though:

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...for-douglas-carswell-to-be-expelled-from-ukip
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
an odd one this as Farage has labelled UKIP's one MP a 'Tory posh boy' (Farage is famous for his love of Thatcher....a Tory) and Banks is planning to stand against Carswell at the next election. Nuttall's approach being scrutinised internally too. So are they just Tories as you say? And their plan was to lose elections you say (multiple achievements there). All very confusing. An interesting read here though:

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...for-douglas-carswell-to-be-expelled-from-ukip
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Farage has turned into a complete twonk. He wants a Knighthood as well you know. Round tbe pipe. Best he sticks to licking arse in the good ol US of A.
 
Benfleet A1 said:
Farage has turned into a complete twonk. He wants a Knighthood as well you know. Round tbe pipe. Best he sticks to licking arse in the good ol US of A.
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Best thing for him would be to move there I reckon - fresh challenge. Everything he worked for here is either done or fallen apart.
 
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