Clinton Baptiste
Life President⭐
Yes lets sign all of Concords, Billericay's and Leigh ramblers best players, see us swoop to the title with 100 points.
And ours will be very similar - as mentioned in addition to the mid 20s players we already have, and the u23s who are 20-24 next season who we will certainly use- possibly the likes of Clifford, Egbri, Walsh, Kinali and Rush quite regularly - there are those in their mid 20s we are looking to bring in - this really is only an issue if we are desperate to try and make it one- and even then when we look again at the comparative age of our squad at the beginning of the season it will be demonstrated to be a non-issue all along.26 is the average age of he top 4 sides finishing in the National League
So we are now saying Bridge, Cordner, Hart and Hobson don’t count because they are too young?Of these Jack Bridge has just hit 25, Cordner is 22, Hart is 24, Hobson is 22
So just one in mid twenties then
You need to be a little careful with your facts
Only 3 players aged between 25 and 28 currently.
Nobody has suggested their is an endless reservoir of talent in local non league, although Steve Tilson certainly thinks its the way to go and their are a few, but got to admire your desperate attempt to make and exaggerate the point
Is there any evidence to suggest that a squad top heavy with players aged over thirty does well in the Conference, or, this is a way to gain promotion?
I suspect not otherwise the average age of teams listed here would likely be far higher.
We cannot ignore the fact that there are risks involved in signing older players. Decline in performance (which can sometimes be very steep and sudden) would be the greatest risk followed followed by injury proneness. It also tends to take older players longer to recover from injury.
It is entirely possible to sign players over thirty who are able to maintain a good standard of performance and avoid injury. Possible but not easy.
The more older players you sign the greater the chances will be that one or more of them will find their age suddenly catching up with them. This increases the chances of bad outcomes.
In recent years we have this seen this happen at Southend more than once.
My other concern is the cost of signing older players, as, if we are to believe what we read, they are often the highest paid. If they play less and their performance drops this seems to be poor business.
At the height of what I call 'Stan Fever' I did watch the zoom call. I seem to remember Tilly commenting he was amazed at some of the salaries we had paid in recent years and he followed this by saying something to the effect he thought there was no shortage of local players of a good standard available and they could be signed at a lesser cost than the 'names'.
Do others believe that to be true? What effort do we make to scout local non league players with a view to finding new recruits?
When PB was reappointed as manager I was not impressed. This is because I believed that long after he left following his original stint with us some the Club's ongoing problems could be traced back to the cost and quality of the signings he made.
He is now our manager and I wish him the best of success although I believe his preference for 'Dad's Army' types is not the best way forward. I hope I am wrong. And if older players are to join us please let their salaries reflect the risks involved in signing them.
And lastly, please not too many. Can we not sign at least one two players in their early to mid twenties?
So 3 30 and sboveI thought I'd take a quick look at the main players for the team that won the National League this season - Sutton United. Here's their top XI by league appearances.
GK - Bouzanis 42 league appearances, Australian, age 30
Midfielder - Eastmond - 41 league appearances, ex Col U, age 30
Midfielder - Beautyman - 39 league appearances, ex Posh and Stevenage, age 29
Forward - Ajiboye - 38+1 league appearances, age 22
Defender - Barden - 36+2 league appearances, age 28
Forward - Olaofe - 35+2 league appearances, age 21
Midfielder - Milsom - 35+1 league appearances, age 34
Defender - John - 35 league appearances, age 27
Forward - Bugiel - 34+3 league appearances, age 27
Defender - Goodliffe - 33 league appearances, age 21
Midfielder - Randall-Hurren - 22+2 league appearances, age 24
It strikes me that they had a pretty settled side, only a couple of kids in their main starting XI and only one (Milson) seriously the wrong side of 30. Most are in their mid-late 20s.
I thought I'd take a quick look at the main players for the team that won the National League this season - Sutton United. Here's their top XI by league appearances.
GK - Bouzanis 42 league appearances, Australian, age 30
Midfielder - Eastmond - 41 league appearances, ex Col U, age 30
Midfielder - Beautyman - 39 league appearances, ex Posh and Stevenage, age 29
Forward - Ajiboye - 38+1 league appearances, age 22
Defender - Barden - 36+2 league appearances, age 28
Forward - Olaofe - 35+2 league appearances, age 21
Midfielder - Milsom - 35+1 league appearances, age 34
Defender - John - 35 league appearances, age 27
Forward - Bugiel - 34+3 league appearances, age 27
Defender - Goodliffe - 33 league appearances, age 21
Midfielder - Randall-Hurren - 22+2 league appearances, age 24
It strikes me that they had a pretty settled side, only a couple of kids in their main starting XI and only one (Milson) seriously the wrong side of 30. Most are in their mid-late 20s.
Someone like Joe Martin (released by Stevenage) might fit the bill, as would Josh Coulson and Jamie Turley (released by Leyton Orient).CP says experienced L2 defender strongly linked.
Kellever, although played for Wrexham is also an experienced L2 defender, unless CP is saying he wa splaying L2 last season but his tweet doesnt state that clearly.CP says experienced L2 defender strongly linked.
Rules out Kelleher then as he is only 25CP has also said they’re 30 years old
Someone like Joe Martin (released by Stevenage) might fit the bill, as would Josh Coulson and Jamie Turley (released by Leyton Orient).
No inside knowledge, just looking at localish players from League 2 who have been released.
Scrap that, as @LennySUFC said, it's Chris Stokes from Forest Green who Brown knows from his Bolton daysSomeone like Joe Martin (released by Stevenage) might fit the bill, as would Josh Coulson and Jamie Turley (released by Leyton Orient).
No inside knowledge, just looking at localish players from League 2 who have been released.