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Breaking News The Nov/Dec Embargo thread

When do you think the embargo will be cleared?


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Trust Statement - 8th December 2021

We love the club, you idiot!

At the last supporters' group Zoom meeting with Ron Martin, he told one of our board members that he loved the football club in a ranting response to a perfectly reasonable question. It is now apparent, following the article by Chris Phillips in the Southend Echo, that our club has been placed under a transfer embargo by the National League, and this presents further evidence that Ron Martin's love of this football club is simply not equal to that of the fans.

Subsequently, Matt Slater of The Athletic has reported that the balance to HMRC to clear the embargo is in excess of £200k. The club, through a statement released this lunchtime, have confirmed the embargo is in place. We are angry and upset that our beloved football club has been left in this embarassing position once again. We are not naive enough to fail to understand the current financial impact on the footballing world of the Covid-19 pandemic, especially with the lack of matchday income over recent weeks, but we have been here before and the club has seemingly not learnt any previous lessons. This is truly concerning.

We learnt in recent days that Charlie Sayers, a promising young defender who had already appeared for the first team in the National League at the age of just 17, had been sold to Tottenham Hotspur. This is not the first time that a youngster - albeit on this occasion one recruited relatively recently - has left the club at a reduced price in a bid, presumably, to raise money towards an outstanding tax bill. This is another sign of the ongoing poor management of the football club at the highest level. The club has continued with its recruitment of backroom staff, which it is now obvious it cannot afford; we believe the new recruits have been set up to fail and have simply presented further cost to the business without being allowed to deliver the success they are striving for.

Where is Ron Martin? For someone who claims to love the football club he has not been seen on matchdays since supporters protested against his ownership. Ron is clearly unwilling, or unable, to attend football matches at the current time. We do not believe he is a fit and proper owner of Southend United Football Club and he continues to run the club with a flagrant disregard for league rules, whether that be within the EFL or the National League. This is completely unacceptable and we will seek clarity from the National League regarding the current position and the possibility of further sanctions.

The Shrimpers Trust believe that we need a United fan base during this troubling period. We acknowledge that not every fan supports the Trust's wider objectives. We do all support Southend United, though, and we are seeking to engage with ALL viewpoints within our fan-base with ALL cards on the table regarding potential actions.

We shall continue to offer our full support to Kevin Maher, the backroom staff and the team on the pitch, however, we do not support the continued actions (or lack of actions) from the owner of the football club. Ron Martin is ultimately responsible for our continued demise, by seemingly not supporting the club he protests to love.​

The Shrimpers Trust Board
Great statement - exactly what was needed... love the headline too I must admit!
 
Trust Statement - 8th December 2021

We love the club, you idiot!

At the last supporters' group Zoom meeting with Ron Martin, he told one of our board members that he loved the football club in a ranting response to a perfectly reasonable question. It is now apparent, following the article by Chris Phillips in the Southend Echo, that our club has been placed under a transfer embargo by the National League, and this presents further evidence that Ron Martin's love of this football club is simply not equal to that of the fans.

Subsequently, Matt Slater of The Athletic has reported that the balance to HMRC to clear the embargo is in excess of £200k. The club, through a statement released this lunchtime, have confirmed the embargo is in place. We are angry and upset that our beloved football club has been left in this embarassing position once again. We are not naive enough to fail to understand the current financial impact on the footballing world of the Covid-19 pandemic, especially with the lack of matchday income over recent weeks, but we have been here before and the club has seemingly not learnt any previous lessons. This is truly concerning.

We learnt in recent days that Charlie Sayers, a promising young defender who had already appeared for the first team in the National League at the age of just 17, had been sold to Tottenham Hotspur. This is not the first time that a youngster - albeit on this occasion one recruited relatively recently - has left the club at a reduced price in a bid, presumably, to raise money towards an outstanding tax bill. This is another sign of the ongoing poor management of the football club at the highest level. The club has continued with its recruitment of backroom staff, which it is now obvious it cannot afford; we believe the new recruits have been set up to fail and have simply presented further cost to the business without being allowed to deliver the success they are striving for.

Where is Ron Martin? For someone who claims to love the football club he has not been seen on matchdays since supporters protested against his ownership. Ron is clearly unwilling, or unable, to attend football matches at the current time. We do not believe he is a fit and proper owner of Southend United Football Club and he continues to run the club with a flagrant disregard for league rules, whether that be within the EFL or the National League. This is completely unacceptable and we will seek clarity from the National League regarding the current position and the possibility of further sanctions.

The Shrimpers Trust believe that we need a United fan base during this troubling period. We acknowledge that not every fan supports the Trust's wider objectives. We do all support Southend United, though, and we are seeking to engage with ALL viewpoints within our fan-base with ALL cards on the table regarding potential actions.

We shall continue to offer our full support to Kevin Maher, the backroom staff and the team on the pitch, however, we do not support the continued actions (or lack of actions) from the owner of the football club. Ron Martin is ultimately responsible for our continued demise, by seemingly not supporting the club he protests to love.​

The Shrimpers Trust Board
Nice to see a bit more aggression in this statement, I think we need to start being more unreasonable and uncomfortable for the man at the top to deal with.
 
Fantastic statement ? which has captured what the majority of the fanbase is feeling. 100% this club we all love needs new ownership! Even Ron lovers deep down will admit time for a change..... this club can not continue to be operated in this manner. Hope the trust contact clubs who have had bad owners like Blackpool and swindon supporters trust for advice.
 
What is actually going on with ron?

Healthwise and court case wise, no longer going to games? He seems to be totally awol.
 
My real issue is the length of time it took to confirm the embargo. Transparency was promised but has not materialised. Citing contractual restrictions that prevent the promised transparency is just a confirmation that nothing has changed.

I hope, from here on in, we are kept up to date with the embargo details and specifically when it will be lifted.
 
I have no idea why you and several others hold so much vitriol towards me but as someone who campaigns for mental health charities I find your use of insane extremely offensive.

So I'm asking politely for you to change your post.

Many thanks.

Stan Collymore.
You are right to point out the use of insane but you know it’s used casually along with many other words that also could describe various mental health conditions and if you will permit me one: Stuart Pearce, known to this day as Psycho.

Perhaps we should all think before we insult others with these phrases, but I fear that is for the future.

You as a centre half? Waste.
 
I went to Orient on Saturday .. club and stadium completely rejuvenated ...

my mate - a one time bank manager - took part in the protests/pitch invasions that got rid
of the Italian joker..

time to get off our knees ?
 
Sorry I can't read it, what does it say? Wouldn't they have been gone sooner though? Or does it say after the loan spell?
You can't extend a loan but the embargo doesn't cancel existing ones. Unless Ron sorts this out in the next couple of weeks (not holding my breath) they'll be gone in January whether Sheffield United wanted them to stay or not because we won't be allowed to extend the loan deals.
 
I don't get why some fans are insulting and questioning stan...... what can stan, John still and our management team do. They have clearly been sold a pipe dream! Only 1 man to blame and that not any of those guys.

Can you please point out one insult that I've missed? I've not seen one.
 
I don't get why some fans are insulting and questioning stan...... what can stan, John still and our management team do. They have clearly been sold a pipe dream! Only 1 man to blame and thats not any of those guys.
Totally agree.

RM hasnt provided the tools for the management trio and stan to do their jobs properly.

I dont see how anyone can be blaming stan or km dc or benno.

TL is probably working to a plan that rm agreed on and hasnt got the money to pay for. So cant blame him either.

The buck literally stops with one man.
 
My real issue is the length of time it took to confirm the embargo. Transparency was promised but has not materialised. Citing contractual restrictions that prevent the promised transparency is just a confirmation that nothing has changed.

I hope, from here on in, we are kept up to date with the embargo details and specifically when it will be lifted.
Seriously you had all the transparency you could want coming from Stan and what did you and some other keyboard WARRIORS do.
You hounded him of this site with a barrage of negativity and personal attacks and now your Discussing about a lack of transparency are you for real...
 
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Seriously you had all the transparency you could want coming from Stan and what did you and some other key board WORRIORS do.
You hounded him of this site with a barrage negativity and personal attacks and now your Discussing about a lack of transparency are you for real...
Not true, people were asking for a more professional route for the transparency. Theres no place for someone in an official capacity to be bickering with fans on a forum. Especially one with such a divisive set of opinions.
 
Seriously you had all the transparency you could want coming from Stan and what did you and some other key board WORRIORS do.
You hounded him of this site with a barrage negativity and personal attacks and now your Discussing about a lack of transparency are you for real...
Replies like yours are hounding. I never made a personal attack on SVC and the negativity you suggest was just questions politely put. Please address your accusations to those that really deserve it. Oh and it's warrior not worrior.
 
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