The inevitable impact of Covid19

[Tangled up in Blue]

Has anyone seen anything about the duration of vaccination protection, including boosters? It seems to me that before too much longer the protection will wane and then what?, more booster shots?

At leat 3 months after your booster shot is what I've seen.That didn't help my mate Grumpy Blue (or his wife) after their booster shot (no idea when that was).Heard from my wife that she knows a few people here and in France who've had their booster and have now developed covid (the new variant fortunately).

Would have thought a new round of booster shots is inevitable after Easter.Believe here and in France a 4th shot is currently available for people over 80/or who are immune deficient.

 

[GrumpyBlue]

At leat 3 months after your booster shot is what I've seen.That didn't help my mate Grumpy Blue (or his wife) after their booster shot (no idea when that was).Heard from my wife that she knows a few people here and in France who've had their booster and have now developed covid (the new variant fortunately).

Would have thought a new round of booster shots is inevitable after Easter.Blelieve here and in France a 4th shot is currently available for people over 80/or who are immune deficient.

Both the Boss and I had our 3rd jabs in November. On 9th March tested positive after hearing some of my drinking mates had tested positive - no symptoms apart from an irritating cough - tested positive again this morning - no symptoms. The Boss tested positive on the 10th with awful cough and head cold - still got the cough and positive.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Both the Boss and I had our 3rd jabs in November. On 9th March tested positive after hearing some of my drinking mates had tested positive - no symptoms apart from an irritating cough - tested positive again this morning - no symptoms. The Boss tested positive on the 10th with awful cough and head cold - still got the cough and positive.

Same as us then.

 

[RHB]

It looks as if this is the deal for the moment. The two vaccines and booster will protect you from hospitalisation and serious illness but we are still suspectable to catching the current variant (omicron) in the same way as you can catch a cold. Hence the UK stand down from more strict controls, masks etc. Presumably, if you do catch it then you will also have some form of natural immunity for the immediate future? I'm beginning to think that I have had it without knowing as my sense of taste and smell have been far less acute than they were before Christmas.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

It looks as if this is the deal for the moment. The two vaccines and booster will protect you from hospitalisation and serious illness but we are still suspectable to catching the current variant (omicron) in the same way as you can catch a cold. Hence the UK stand down from more strict controls, masks etc. Presumably, if you do catch it then you will also have some form of natural immunity for the immediate future? I'm beginning to think that I have had it without knowing as my sense of taste and smell have been far less acute than they were before Christmas.

Yes,apparently.Our younger daughter (and her boyfriend in Paris) caugh covid before Xmas (after their 2nd jab).They're not eliglbe for a booster yet apparently.

Dunno about your last point but it's possible I suppose.

 

[ESG]

I tested positive Tues last week, after experiencing a dry cough for a few hrs & sniffles!. That had disappeared the next day, & i just felt a little 'washed out' for 2 days. Test was negative Mon morning this week.
Weirdly my 'other half' has tested herself daily since then, but is still negative??. You'd have presumed because we're under the same roof, she'd have got it as well?.

My wife is still testing positive after 6 days and had all the symptoms it says on the covid tin. I've had a negative test every other day......so far even after Tuesday at the theatre of horrors which was a health hazard before the Chinese flu ?

 

[KevinJH]

After asking my GP for the relevant referral letter I was able to go to the local walk-in clinic this morning and get my second booster done (I have a rather unpleasant blood disorder). The staff there were saying they're expecing a run on over-75's in the next week or two as a) the number of cases in that group are spiralling up and b) it's well over 90 days since the first booster programme started and immunity will be on the wain.

 

[blueblueblue]

After asking my GP for the relevant referral letter I was able to go to the local walk-in clinic this morning and get my second booster done (I have a rather unpleasant blood disorder). The staff there were saying they're expecing a run on over-75's in the next week or two as a) the number of cases in that group are spiralling up and b) it's well over 90 days since the first booster programme started and immunity will be on the wain.

The gov don't seem to advertising the second booster as much, like before.

 

[KevinJH]

The gov don't seem to advertising the second booster as much, like before.

Quite - I had to ask for the referral letter on the advice of my haematologist else I'd still be twiddling my thumbs waiting.....

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

Surely any further booster shots are pointless unless the vaccine is being modified for the current variant (as happens with the flu vaccine every year)? The current vaccines are still based on the original variant and it's clear that omicron is infecting vaccinated people just as much as unvaccinated. How many more shots of this stuff are people prepared to put in their body?

I had COVID last week, I'm not vaccinated and just felt lethargic and had a bit of temperature for a couple of days. We have to accept this thing is going to continue coming and going in waves.

 

[tia]

Surely any further booster shots are pointless unless the vaccine is being modified for the current variant (as happens with the flu vaccine every year)? The current vaccines are still based on the original variant and it's clear that omicron is infecting vaccinated people just as much as unvaccinated. How many more shots of this stuff are people prepared to put in their body?

I had COVID last week, I'm not vaccinated and just felt lethargic and had a bit of temperature for a couple of days. We have to accept this thing is going to continue coming and going in waves.

I agree regarding infections my partners 14 year old daughter had Covid start of year and now along with lot of her school class has been infected again both times with very mild symptoms.

 

[Holy Joe]

Surely any further booster shots are pointless unless the vaccine is being modified for the current variant (as happens with the flu vaccine every year)? The current vaccines are still based on the original variant and it's clear that omicron is infecting vaccinated people just as much as unvaccinated. How many more shots of this stuff are people prepared to put in their body?

I had COVID last week, I'm not vaccinated and just felt lethargic and had a bit of temperature for a couple of days. We have to accept this thing is going to continue coming and going in waves.

I doubt they're pointless - the stats show they're reducing severity of illness. The need for boosters is because the effectiveness wains over time rather than new variant rendering it 'useless'

Since you're unvax why are you bothered if people want to have a booster? It's a free country (sort of) let them have it if they want it.

 

[hlane17]

We have to accept this thing is going to continue coming and going in waves.

Definitely, it will be another virus to add to the rest in circulation now. Not to mention in the last month or so, there has been a huge spread in all sorts not just COVID.

People are mixing once again in large numbers and frequently, I've caught 3 different viruses in a month!

Went to London over the weekend with my girlfriend and we've both come down with COVID. 2 positive LFTs in a row today!

Will admit I've had no jabs (being 20 it didn't feel necessary) and just feeling a bit energy-sapped and a higher temp than usual, but not terrible tbh just like a normal winter virus.

 

[Holy Joe]

It's great (relatively speaking) that people are catching Covid and it not being serious - but for every 3 people who catch covid, 1 will still be 'suffering' from some symptoms over 3 months later -the so called long covid.

I've mentioned this before, my daughter caught Covid last June - she still has a strange sense of taste/smell. She had it very mild - you wouldn't have known she was ill - no cough, just very slightly fatigued and lost sense of taste and smell. Studies are showing it's impacting the brain - the long term impacts could be significant for some - even those that had it 'mild'.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Interesting times with covid and it feels very transitional, from lockdown to free for all, and from either accept the science/vaccines or anti.
There is perhaps the highest number, or %, of folks, across all groups with covid at present time, AND the majority are mild and akin to an ache and cold; with hospital required for those with underlying health issues or unjabbed. Many at A&E seem to be using (abusing?) Services there as their GPs are, in effect, closed and they forget pharmacists have wealth of know and experience
I judge how things are, in part, on what I see on my weekly Sainsbury shop at the Weir, and it seems masks are still being used 50/50 by staff and customers, and also, surprisingly, more younger people are wearing one in store; does that indicate their experiences of the current impact?
And it astonished me how few use sanitise products on entry or exit. I am guessing they don't wash their hands properly or often either.

 

[blueblueblue]

Deaths are sadly rising again.

 

[Ricky Otto]

It's great (relatively speaking) that people are catching Covid and it not being serious - but for every 3 people who catch covid, 1 will still be 'suffering' from some symptoms over 3 months later -the so called long covid.

I've mentioned this before, my daughter caught Covid last June - she still has a strange sense of taste/smell. She had it very mild - you wouldn't have known she was ill - no cough, just very slightly fatigued and lost sense of taste and smell. Studies are showing it's impacting the brain - the long term impacts could be significant for some - even those that had it 'mild'.

I have paid particular attention to this as I am heavily invested in a company, Polerean Imaging (POLX), that has pioneered a lung imaging technique utilizing xenon gas. The tech attracted MSM attention earlier this year (the company was not mentioned though).

Long Covid: Hidden lung damage spotted on scans

A study detected abnormalities in people who had had Covid but did not need hospital treatment.

www.bbc.co.uk

The FDA rejected the application for the tech last year on a technicality. POLX had moved their manufacturing plant in anticipation of scaling up. For something so trivial it seems odd that the FDA didn't communicate this to POLX who were in weekly contact with the FDA all the way up to submission. It had to start again at the back of the queue last november without any clue yet as to when the FDA will look at this again due to their backlog. If long covid is a genuine concern then delaying this tech seems ridiculous.

 

[hlane17]

Currently looking at ways to approach self-treatment after a confirmed COVID-19 infection.

Interestingly it's recommended that you do not treat a COVID-19 associated fever unless absolutely necessary, as this is bodily process will help reduce viral replication in the body.

 

[GNH]

Deaths are sadly rising again.

When you have everyone who is in hospital tested for Covid, and then a lot of those poor sick people die of any of the horrible things they were admitted with, within 28 days of the test, they will count as Covid deaths.

The numbers of people on ventilators in hospital across the whole UK is less than 300 I believe, this is a much more accurate picture.

Fingers crossed it stays that way.

Edit: Just checked and as of yesterday it was 287 on ventilation across the entire UK

 

[hlane17]

4 days after testing positive I am now negative and clear.

Bar the odd uncomfortable coughing fit, it was manageable. I just made sure I ate something when hungry, took my vitamins and had plenty of hot brew on the go to soothe my throat (tea, coffee, hot chocolate)