The inevitable impact of Covid19

[blueblueblue]

Covid death statistics are slowly falling.
And imo, slightly more interesting is that the average monthly death rate is at a five year low, but the details of how that figure is calculated I don't know.
Could it be that the unfortunate weak and infirm have been taken earlier si the "low " death rate is a figure by product?
And we seem to have had a 2nd winter without a flu crisis or hospitals having big vomit/ nora virus season.
Washing hands, covering coughs and sneezes etc may have some good for long term.

I think you're right, peoples behaviors are changing. Lots of people still wearing masks.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

@blueblueblue I still wear a mask at supermarket, and still use hand sanitizer where provided, and wash hands "happy birthday".

My wife's Aunt died, in hospital yesterday, her kidneys finally failed; but she had covid and visiting was curtailed, nonsensically as what was the risk to her as she already had been infected with covid?

Watching QT tonight the panel are no longer compartment separated and the auditorium has a full audience in Leeds. But arguments are still poor and predictable with the politicos most dreary and full of partizan ****e.

 

[Tinks]

We are still being told to wear our PPE and anyone coming into the surgery has to wear a mask.
To be honest at times I am finding it really hard wearing the mask when seeing people especially some of the elderly who have trouble understanding what is being said.
But, we are continuing as before and I am still having to do regular LFT and PCR

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

Watching QT tonight the panel are no longer compartment separated and the auditorium has a full audience in Leeds. But arguments are still poor and predictable with the politicos most dreary and full of partizan ****e.

Good, I hate those perspex screens they have on TV shows now. They are completely useless - in fact there is evidence they worsen the risk in some situations. It's all for show.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

@blueblueblue I still wear a mask at supermarket, and still use hand sanitizer where provided, and wash hands "happy birthday".

My wife's Aunt died, in hospital yesterday, her kidneys finally failed; but she had covid and visiting was curtailed, nonsensically as what was the risk to her as she already had been infected with covid?

Watching QT tonight the panel are no longer compartment separated and the auditorium has a full audience in Leeds. But arguments are still poor and predictable with the politicos most dreary and full of partizan ****e.

It's always been the audience that makes it an interesting show for me rather than anyone on the panel (with a few rare exceptions).

 

[rigsby]

It's always been the audience that makes it an interesting show for me rather than anyone on the panel (with a few rare exceptions).

Not that I watch anything on the BBC but for those that do, It should be renamed Avoid Question Time.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

The better panelists on QT are the comedians and journalists; the politicians are invariably very weak; and the notable good exceptions are strong characters such as Ruth Davidson and Jess Phillips.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Not that I watch anything on the BBC but for those that do, It should be renamed Avoid Question Time.

What do you people have against the Beeb exactly? Please explain.

Edit.PM me if you like.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

What do you people have against the Beeb exactly? Please explain.

No thanks! That will get political and has nothing to do with the thread topic, so please take that into private chat if you want to discuss further. Thanks

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Nicely done @Spaceman Spiff, answered Tanger's question and halted the thread morphing.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

So, from Thursday it is all over, at least from a UK Guv mandate side.
For me it is an odd idea, nothing will change between now and then, or much after.
All in all it seems the same as all thru the pandemic, headlines but little reality behind that and less scientific or medical conclusions.
What is needed is an independent study of the history and results from similar countries what happened, time lines, responses, spread etc. Was Sweden's approach the way or a disaster?

 

[pottster]

Glad it's over, but must admit feeling a bit 'what the hell was that all about?' Hardly reported in the press now it seems. Did we have the right approach, will we do things differently? Did we really have to throw the economy on the bonfire? There was people on the radio today moaning about raising of restrictions and say it's too soon. All I can say is some people love a lockdown!

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Glad it's over, but must admit feeling a bit 'what the hell was that all about?' Hardly reported in the press now it seems. Did we have the right approach, will we do things differently? Did we really have to throw the economy on the bonfire? There was people on the radio today moaning about raising of restrictions and say it's too soon. All I can say is some people love a lockdown!

I doubt anyone likes a lockdown.
Scientific advice is guarded about losing all restrictions, as you know.
Did we really have to throw the economy on the bonfire? I guess it depends whether you thought there was a pandemic in the first place?
The ONS reckon 160k+ have died of something that wasn't flu or any other known disease.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

So, from Thursday it is all over, at least from a UK Guv mandate side.
For me it is an odd idea, nothing will change between now and then, or much after.
All in all it seems the same as all thru the pandemic, headlines but little reality behind that and less scientific or medical conclusions.
What is needed is an independent study of the history and results from similar countries what happened, time lines, responses, spread etc. Was Sweden's approach the way or a disaster?

I read the highlighted paragraph a couple of times, but still can't glean your meaning.
Are you saying science and medicine got it wrong?

PS. Many in Sweden, according to reports, were unhappy at the way things were handled.
"But relative to its Nordic peers, Sweden ultimately had higher rates of COVID-19 infections and fatalities. And Sweden experienced a second round of infections in the early months of 2021 that most of its neighbors escaped"
This from the Northern Trust, who are investment advisors. You pays your money...

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

@Chris Powell's mate, my punctuation and sentence construction has, it appears, given a confused message. My thought was that a headline point is rolled out but the reasoning behind that is often unexplained. In this case, the ending of restrictions, is it occurring because of a lower threat level, NHS capability or what?

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

@Chris Powell's mate, my punctuation and sentence construction has, it appears, given a confused message. My thought was that a headline point is rolled out but the reasoning behind that is often unexplained. In this case, the ending of restrictions, is it occurring because of a lower threat level, NHS capability or what?

It's ending because the government says it will.
I guess you have to ask its motivation?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It's ending because the government says it will.
I guess you have to ask its motivation?

Except nobody’s going to do that because that would be politics and the posts will be deleted.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Except nobody’s going to do that because that would be politics and the posts will be deleted.

Exactly the reason for the carefully worded post, but in answer to the previous question.

 

[blues exile]

As politice permeates virtually every aspect of life and is therefore an essential ingredient of any meaningful discussion, to ban it is to render most non football debate on this forum utterly futile.

 

[RHB]

As politice permeates virtually every aspect of life and is therefore an essential ingredient of any meaningful discussion, to ban it is to render most non football debate on this forum utterly futile.

There you go. A minority of posters on here persistently posted in the most entrenched and vitriolic way regardless of requests to ease off. So the Politics Forum went as it was driving away more reasonable posters. And it won't be coming back.