The EU Referendum

[Benfleet A1]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-37158722

I see Scotland's First Minister thinks that Brexit could cost her country millions.

1.7bn to 11.2bn? Is that the best she can do. I wonder how much worse it would be without the Barnet Formula being added to her figures.

 

[londonblue]

Yet more bad news for project fear. Turns out tourists visiting Britain are taking advantage of the new exchange rate and are now spending more money than last year, giving our economy a nice little boost. He who dares.

I'm not sure how you can claim that as a victory for Brexit. It was forecast before-hand by just about everybody. Brexit was always going to lead to a weaker pound. A weaker pound would always lead to Britain being cheaper to visit. The flipside, however, is that it is more expensive for us to travel abroad. That was also predicted.

A weaker pound (which was further weakened recently by the reduction in interest rates) will also make our exports cheaper, and the flipside of that is that imports will be more expensive. Given that the UK is a net importer the overall effect of a weaker pound is that we will be worse off. All of this was predicted by the experts we were told by Leavers we should ignore because they're always wrong.

At least, however, we've made visiting and buying stuff from this country more attractive. It's very good of us to look after the rest of the world at our expense.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I wish them the best of Luck with the fight back....:smile:

I know of one young Scottish guy (a friend of our younger daughter's) coming to work here in September, so that he can start building up the five years residence he needs to apply for an EU passport.

 

[rigsby]

I'm not sure how you can claim that as a victory for Brexit. It was forecast before-hand by just about everybody. Brexit was always going to lead to a weaker pound. A weaker pound would always lead to Britain being cheaper to visit. The flipside, however, is that it is more expensive for us to travel abroad. That was also predicted.

A weaker pound (which was further weakened recently by the reduction in interest rates) will also make our exports cheaper, and the flipside of that is that imports will be more expensive. Given that the UK is a net importer the overall effect of a weaker pound is that we will be worse off. All of this was predicted by the experts we were told by Leavers we should ignore because they're always wrong.

At least, however, we've made visiting and buying stuff from this country more attractive. It's very good of us to look after the rest of the world at our expense.

Quite simple don't but a BMW and have a nice British holiday and we will all be better off.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...sh-politician-play-hardball-with-uk-on-brexit

Doesn't look like this lady's for turning either.

Good luck negotiating trade deals with her.

 

[Bielzibubz]

And that's exactly what this country needs. Someone with the balls to stand up for what's in THIS countries best interests, not what's in the best interests of a few corporate elites and political high flyers. The European trading block cannot afford to jeopardize one of their best import and export markets by being a bunch of dicks and making political statements or by trying to play Bertie big bollocks.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

And that's exactly what this country needs. Someone with the balls to stand up for what's in THIS countries best interests, not what's in the best interests of a few corporate elites and political high flyers. The European trading block cannot afford to jeopardize one of their best import and export markets by being a bunch of dicks and making political statements or by trying to play Bertie big bollocks.

Remember" Britain can only get a bad deal,a very bad deal, or a catastrophic deal." Which do you think Liam Fox will get? :winking:

 

[Benfleet A1]

Remember" Britain can only get a bad deal,a very bad deal, or a catastrophic deal." Which do you think Liam Fox will get? :winking:

What one are you rooting for?

 

[Gremlin]

Remember" Britain can only get a bad deal,a very bad deal, or a catastrophic deal."

You're quoting someone who probably expected a Remain vote. Someone who, like you, got it wrong. What makes you think they're suddenly getting things right?

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Being IN the EU is a "very bad deal" so a "simple bad deal" ought to be an improvement.
For a short time the EUcrates pontificated on post EU Referendum changes but they seem to be letting that slide.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

What one are you rooting for?

As you know I preferred the remain option.FWIW,I think The 52% who voted for Brexit will have to take the least worst deal they can get.

You're quoting someone who probably expected a Remain vote. Someone who, like you, got it wrong. What makes you think they're suddenly getting things right?

Early rumblings from Germany don't auger well for the UK's chances of getting a good deal.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...or-eu-is-in-deep-trouble-says-german-minister

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Being IN the EU is a "very bad deal" so a "simple bad deal" ought to be an improvement.
For a short time the EUcrates pontificated on post EU Referendum changes but they seem to be letting that slide.

Check out the link in post 2511.I'd also expect things to get a little hotter after the next EU Summit meeting in mid-September.

 

[rigsby]

Southend sea front traders say its been a bumper summer. Lots of people staying at home and spending their money in our town. Good to see us nicely rewarded, after all us Essex Boys and girls out vote was much higher than 52%.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I have read it before, earlier, it its fuller content which explains the meanings of the comments more than the poor translated cherry picks.
Germany will, rightly, be worried about Brexit.
Germany has a huge trade surplice with the UK which it will want to keep. Germany also has a growing right wing and a swelling tide of anti EU/Immigration feelings. Germany also has a huge growth in its social services/welfare payments that lots of regions/cantons can not finance except by raising taxes significantly. Germany is bordered by other potential "exit" countries of Netherlands and Denmark as well as cost burden countries to its East and South. Germany has not fulfilled it's NATO 2% for many years and if you add all things things up, the comments from the German Minister are an ill advised leap at distraction politics to appeal to the still large, conservative, pro EU, lobby with-in Germany which may win Merkal's ruling party some support in the lead up to their elections next year.

 

[Gremlin]

Early rumblings from Germany don't auger well for the UK's chances of getting a good deal.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...or-eu-is-in-deep-trouble-says-german-minister

So, unless you haven't answered the question, you saying that you think people who were wrong before are suddenly right because of something the German economic minister, who also also called the Referendum result incorrectly, has said.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

So, unless you haven't answered the question, you saying that you think people who were wrong before are suddenly right because of something the German economic minister, who also also called the Referendum result incorrectly, has said.

Can someone please translate this into English for me?

 

[MK Shrimper]

Can someone please translate this into English for me?

Sure.

So, unless you haven't answered the question, you saying that you think people who were wrong before are suddenly right because of something the German economic minister, who also also called the Referendum result incorrectly, has said.

 

[Napster]

Beraz , ez duzu galdera erantzun ezean , nor ziren oker daude , bat-batean eskuinera zerbait Alemaniako ministro ekonomikoa delako aurretik jendea , nor ere ere deitzen Erreferenduma emaitza gaizki, esan du uste duzula esaten duzu .

 

[Gremlin]

Can someone please translate this into English for me?

Well I've spotted that the first "you" should read as "you're" but otherwise it's pretty clear. Have another go. Or are you avoiding the question?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

So, unless you haven't answered the question, you saying that you think people who were wrong before are suddenly right because of something the German economic minister, who also also called the Referendum result incorrectly, has said.

What makes you think that Sigmar Gabriel "called the referendum result incorrectly?"

In any case, surely the reality is that, the EU will not allow the UK access to the single market without acceptance of free movement?

(P.S.Fewer embedded questions in future,please)!