Thanks Kev - but is a new manager needed?

[PIERS]

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where was that typeset from.. a 70's magazine but I cant place it.. shoot. ?

 

[Avl1983]

He’s played 302 minutes this season plus a further 204 minutes in preseason.

What has stood out from those 506 minutes as making you think he deserves more opportunities?

What do you think are his strengths that you think can make us a better team?

I felt last season that he didn’t work hard enough but put that down to stepping into full time football as we keep being told that has such an effect. What I also saw was that when he got on the ball he looked dangerous and would either score or create a chance/win a penalty.

I would definitely like to see him given a run of games to see what he can do. It’s not as if we’re replacing high performing individuals to facilitate this is it.

 

[They Call It Madness!!!]

where was that typeset from.. a 70's magazine but I cant place it.. shoot. ?

Used to love these ladders.

If it wasn't Shoot, then Match or even 90 minutes.

It then evolved to When Saturday Comes and Four Four Two.

What great publications they were.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

You seem to have a real downer on Waldron.

No one is saying that he is the new Pele (as you have previously intimidated) but he certainly did well in the NLS in a poor team and his recent record is better than any of our other strikers who are not exactly setting the world alight.

I just think that giving him a go is not a risk (we ain't going up and we ain't going down) and may well bear fruit, and if it doesn't at least we will know.

But we do know though.

After over 30 appearances across last season, pre-season and this season what is it you can say Waldron does better than any other of our forward options?

 

[gatecrasher]

I think we just have to accept kevs here until the end of the season at the least. If COSU want to stick and give him the pre season and get signings in then so be it. Personally I can't see us being much further than we are this season - the football he has the players playing is dire and zero ability to kill off lesser teams - which is the difference between teams that go up and those that don't.

Happy to be proved wrong but settled in for another 12 months of mediocrity.

 

[Southend Elvis]

Yet, you’re questioning why a player that the leadership team watch literally every working day of their lives can’t make it into the first team.

Everything about him suggests… a high likelihood of mediocrity.

Or a lack of fitness, a good point made by others.

But to counter your point, the solution to that problem isn't working. As someone said Wood before, now DW and GW, this is part of why KM divides opinion. He currently makes decisions that don't work, without giving obvious alternatives a go. Too stubborn for my liking.

 

[in the know]

Used to love these ladders.

If it wasn't Shoot, then Match or even 90 minutes

Same here. Got the name 'hotspur' in my mind for some reason (Not spurs related). Was there a football comic called that?
When all games were 3pm saturday, the 5pm results time of day was so much more meaningful and enjoyable. At least in the lower leagues, nearly all saturday games are still 3pm saturdays.I
(Sorry mods - off topic I know!)

 

[Gremlin]

As a long term supporter myself I have total empathy with your feeling's as to where we now find ourselves as a football club, it ruddy well hurts!
But I take the view we are where we deserve to be based on an ongoing period of declining performance, both off and on the pitch, both mutually inclusive.
It's difficult not to have feelings of mediocrity if your reference point is historically better individual players and teams that we have had. Throw in the fact that we have a fanbase more than worthy of EFL status and it's not an easy pill to swallow.
But the simple honest fact is all that has gone before is just that, gone. We are at the start of a rebirth of the Club and in the hands of owners who have a certain approach as to how they will oversee a return to better times. We are starting at a level both on and off the pitch below our potential but realistic to our current abilities. We should and do have expectations, but currently they have to come with a large portion of realism of the hear and now and that means a necessary level of acceptance of the current limitations of the squad, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have an expectation of ongoing improvement.

So good I read it twice. Great post.

 

[South Bank Hank]

But to counter your point, the solution to that problem isn't working. As someone said Wood before, now DW and GW, this is part of why KM divides opinion. He currently makes decisions that don't work, without giving obvious alternatives a go. Too stubborn for my liking.

Counter away. It may be obvious to a guy called Southend Elvis on the internet, yet not to a three-strong management group with a combined 100 years in football who watch the players every day. If that's stubborn and divides opinion, so be it.

 

[Southend Elvis]

Counter away. It may be obvious to a guy called Southend Elvis on the internet, yet not to a three-strong management group with a combined 100 years in football who watch the players every day. If that's stubborn and divides opinion, so be it.

The simple fact that the on field striker choices are not scoring, you don't have to be Albert Einstein to see that. Granted I only watch football, but leaving 3 players out in the cold, and continuing to use players who are not cutting it, will raise concerns about said choices. If your happy with it fine, I'm not.

 

[Southend Elvis]

And when I said obvious choices, DW is a striker, isn't he?

 

[Richard Hearn]

But we do know though.

After over 30 appearances across last season, pre-season and this season what is it you can say Waldron does better than any other of our forward options?

If he has had 30 appearances (although, if he has, I must have missed a lot of those) then I would still wager that he has now had fewer minutes of play than all the current strike force, who, even you must acknowledge, aren't setting the world on fire.

 

[Shrimper]

But we do know though.

After over 30 appearances across last season, pre-season and this season what is it you can say Waldron does better than any other of our forward options?

Well, he has more goals than Bonne for us but willing to bet he has a lot of short appearances

 

[* ORM *]

Stan Collymore’s left testicle is more dangerous than DW. That’s why neither are selected to start a game for us

 

[* ORM *]

His right testicle is sheite

 

[blues exile]

Counter away. It may be obvious to a guy called Southend Elvis on the internet, yet not to a three-strong management group with a combined 100 years in football who watch the players every day. If that's stubborn and divides opinion, so be it.

You can have all the experience over countless games but if you are too blinkered to lewrn from it then nothing will change

 

[RHB]

You can have all the experience over countless games but if you are too blinkered to lewrn from it then nothing will change

Enjoy the game this afternoon.

 

[in the know]

His right testicle is sheite

You’re all talking bxllox

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

But to counter your point, the solution to that problem isn't working. As someone said Wood before, now DW and GW, this is part of why KM divides opinion. He currently makes decisions that don't work, without giving obvious alternatives a go. Too stubborn for my liking.

How is Jack Wood going in the division below?

If he has had 30 appearances (although, if he has, I must have missed a lot of those) then I would still wager that he has now had fewer minutes of play than all the current strike force, who, even you must acknowledge, aren't setting the world on fire.

Well that’s a wager you’re going to lose.

Only Josh Walker has started more games for us since signing(/re-signing in Hopper’s case).

He’s started around three times as many games for us since signing as Hopper has since re-joining us.

He’s played a roughly equivalent number of minutes as Charley Kendall, James Walker and Macauley Bonne have for us.

How come people are happy to write off Hopper, Kendall, Walker and Bonne from similar (or fewer minutes) but not Waldron?

Well, he has more goals than Bonne for us but willing to bet he has a lot of short appearances

Well as above he’s started more games than Bonne has. I’m not Bonne’s biggest fan but Bonne has largely played as the targetman. That’s something Waldron isn’t able to do.

I don’t want to pile on him as he does his best but he’s fifth out of five for a reason.

ps I note nobody has actually come up with an aspect of his game that is better than any of our other strikers who aren’t setting the world alight.

 

[South Bank Hank]

I mean, nothing would please me more than DW coming on as a late sub, smashing a hattrick and forcing a change on the team. But if he’s not looking like a viable option in training (whether that’s fitness or otherwise), it’s really difficult to see a situation where he’s suddenly the best on the pitch in a real game.

Honestly, I’m delighted if he turns it around and forces his way in.