Thanks Kev - but is a new manager needed?

[stewart]

Oldham?

yes your quite right !!

 

[Tommy2holes]

Is this what qualifies for a decent rumour these days? Claiming bosses plan to meet with their staff? Load of sensationalist nothingness if you ask me.

I'm confident Maher and co will get a full pre-season and 10-15 games next season unless we implode over the next month or two. Personally feel conflicted as Maher, Daz and Benno showed insane levels of loyalty to the club and arguably had us playing better football and achieving superior results in easily more testing circumstances. However, the squad are clearly underperforming, the football is turgid and Kev really has an inability to take ownership and show a bit of contrition for his own errors. To overcome his managerial shortcomings, COSU are going to have to back him well for next season and hope it's enough. I'm not convinced.

After a god awful result a meeting was called for Kev to speak with Cosu.

Justin decided to cancel it and wants to speak to him when he comes back to the UK..

It's a thread about Kev getting the boot, so I thought it might be relevant

 

[LCBB72]

Remind me of one former player that went on to manage us that lost the respect of the fans after leaving as a manager? I guess everyone is different, but for me, none have lost any respect and legend status.

• Peter Taylor - Still a legend
• Steve Tilson - Still a legend
• Chris Powell - Still a legend
• Kev Maher - Still and always a legend

I don't get the 'no more former players' argument. They know the club, probably have a positive affinity with club and fans. BTW, not aimed at amsemp; just general anti former players as managers.

FWIW, I still think Kev is the man, but we need quite a substantial squad change in the summer. Far too many haven't Lived up to their record and hype and I don't think its all down to management

You missed out Ronnie Whelan Alan Little and Rob Newman , none will ever be 'Legends' .

 

[leeblue]

We are consistently inconsistent.

Consistently so!

 

[leeblue]

The balanced logical view is to give Kev the pre season he deserves.
Then I will absolutely be on point with judging the results on the pitch.
Um bongo.
Delayed takeover
Two best players whipped away.
Injuries.
No club can realistically mount a serious challenge with this start.
As I said give him what he has more than earned in his time here.
We have had well over a hundred seasons and the vast majority have been meh. This season may well end up in the meh file but I will have far higher expectations next season. Expectations, ambition should always be built on a solid foundation rather than on ongoing clown show. We are actually in really good place to legitimately build a winner in the summer. COSU have been outstanding on so many levels we should be very optimistic rather than bitching and sniping x x

 

[southchurch]

Sturrock told defenders never take more than one touch if you can help it. That was horrible to watch some times. I can remember defenders hoofing it on the volley straight out of play quite often and not even under any pressure. I don't want that back but I also don't want defenders passing it along the back and nothing forward. There must be a middle ground.

 

[graingerroad54]

Very few big clubs in this league, my estimation on a big club is looking at their past history ,what they have achieved Southend definitely one ,maybe Hartlepool ,Rochdale, Gateshead, definitely not Barnet and FGR, Not sure you can call Daggers a big club either and Halifax im not sure of their history ,Cant think of any others.

Oldham, the biggest club by a country mile

 

[Piledriver]

Can someone add a poll please.

Enough is enough, this season has been unacceptable on every level. Cry me a river over Cardwell and Kensdale, we should not be playing as crap as we are with the squad we have.

The tactics are unchanging and negative, we are getting beat by part time teams, our home form is a joke, we have probably hit 2 shots from outside the box all season and the heat map for possession in our own half each game is hotter than the centre of the sun.

Time to go

I like your description of the teams season so far, what irks me is a club like Gateshead have lost quality players over last few seasons and quickly replace them , and they are still up there challenging. My fear is if the club performance remains the same next season it will rapidly turn toxic and lead to falling attendances both home and away.

 

[TrevorFitzpatrickHattrick]

After a god awful result a meeting was called for Kev to speak with Cosu.

Justin decided to cancel it and wants to speak to him when he comes back to the UK..

It's a thread about Kev getting the boot, so I thought it might be relevant

Unless you're Justin or a member of the consortium and are willing to detail the motive of any prospective meeting, I'd say it's an attempt to sensationalise something that's absolutely normal.

 

[blues exile]

You would hope regular discussions between Maher and the consortium, or at least the CEO, would be a given anyway. They certainly need to be the way things are going.

 

[RHB]

Unless you're Justin or a member of the consortium and are willing to detail the motive of any prospective meeting, I'd say it's an attempt to sensationalise something that's absolutely normal.

And there you have identified what ShrimperZone is very good at currently.

 

[KiwiRob]

After a god awful result a meeting was called for Kev to speak with Cosu.

Justin decided to cancel it and wants to speak to him when he comes back to the UK..

It's a thread about Kev getting the boot, so I thought it might be relevant

While Justin Rees probably never expected automatic promotion this year, I think there have been signs for sometime that some members of COSU have been concerned about some of the decision-making by the current management team. It should not be forgotten that the business success of Justin and his COSU colleagues probably owes a lot to their ability to evaluate people and opportunities, and to take decisive action if and when the need arises.

 

[Avl1983]

I saw Barrett and Tilson were watching a game at home recently and the next game we attacked Dagenham, I did wonder whether their presence there motivated him to change things. I could be wrong obviously but it's not been normal for Maher to attack teams.

 

[TJC]

You missed out Ronnie Whelan Alan Little and Rob Newman , none will ever be 'Legends' .

I wouldn't call any of those 3 Southend legends before taking the management role though.
My opinion of Whelan, Little and Newman hasn't changed after their management stint either.

 

[TJC]

I saw Barrett and Tilson were watching a game at home recently and the next game we attacked Dagenham, I did wonder whether their presence there motivated him to change things. I could be wrong obviously but it's not been normal for Maher to attack teams.

We did attack teams at the beginning of 23/24 season when we could barely get a team out. Memory has probably gone a bit rose tinted, and didn't happen as often as my memory would like to think, but I recall we were up 1 or 2 goals within the first 30 mins as we hit teams hard from the kickoff, probably because we knew we didn't have a bench to freshen things up if we left it too long.
I do like the attitude of attack is the best form of defense.

 

[Medway Blue]

After a god awful result a meeting was called for Kev to speak with Cosu.

Justin decided to cancel it and wants to speak to him when he comes back to the UK..

It's a thread about Kev getting the boot, so I thought it might be relevant

I don't know that this is true.

A meeting was cancelled and will now be in person before the Rochdale game because JR is coming over for a few weeks. The meeting I know of doesn't involve anybody from the Football Department, though.

The Football Department have meetings with JR, JB, SG, etc. fairly regularly anyway.

Sounds to me like some mundane information has got twisted as it passes from person to person, and has taken on a life of its own.....quelle surpise!

 

[southchurch]

Am I right in thinking there are 14 members of COSU. If that's right then I would imagine their views are as diverse as those on this forum. Maybe they have their own poll running. It would be interesting to know what the consensus was and who has the final say.

 

[Thundersley Blue]

Am I right in thinking there are 14 members of COSU. If that's right then I would imagine their views are as diverse as those on this forum. Maybe they have their own poll running. It would be interesting to know what the consensus was and who has the final say.

Could I suggest you read the Minutes from the Trust meeting on 23rd January which Tom Lawrence attended. They are freely available and will definitely tell you what the thinking is. My guess, you probably won't like what you read.

 

[gatecrasher]

If I was a member of COSU, particularly one of the long time fan ones, I'd not be happy with how the season has gone from am emotive point of view and I'd not be happy as an investor that, we might start losing attendance figures because of the lame duck football we play.

I think it's a given that Kev gets to the end of the season, if he can turn things around, play some more driven football and go on a good run - then he will still be here in the summer. If this farty side to side, slow crap continues and a poor finish below the top 10...I'd be letting Justin know he's not someone I trust with my team and money going forward.

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

If I was a member of COSU, particularly one of the long time fan ones, I'd not be happy with how the season has gone from am emotive point of view and I'd not be happy as an investor that, we might start losing attendance figures because of the lame duck football we play.

I think it's a given that Kev gets to the end of the season, if he can turn things around, play some more driven football and go on a good run - then he will still be here in the summer. If this farty side to side, slow crap continues and a poor finish below the top 10...I'd be letting Justin know he's not someone I trust with my team and money going forward.

IMO we need to go on a decent unbeaten run & be more attacking in our football, otherwise next seasons intake of STH will plummet which will be a major concern for COSU regarding their future plans, with a hefty drop in revenue?.