Some perspective

[bazzashrimper]

How COSU and a fair number of blind supporters cannot see that Maher has had numerous chances to get up the League with a bit of tactical nous and ambition is beyond me....he even tried to lose the 3 points at a poor Braintree. If I didn't know any better then I'd think he's backed us for bottom half?

The fact that he still crowbars either Husin or Miley or both in says it all.....along with not giving others a fair chance as well has got to mean the end!.....as for the Hopper signing, errr why?
Will go tomorrow as have a ticket from before but that is my lot until he goes, entertainment under him it certainly isn't and he don't get many points either by playing this way..... Moyes plays crap football but at least it gets results!!....Last two Saturdays have opened the eyes of even the most blinkered, no more!

I haven’t been to the last few games, but was it 3 games ago that Husin was regarded by many as motm, before he missed sittingbourne? Coker who I’m a fan of and probably our most creative #8, by all accounts went missing the other day. Miley (and Bridge before someone else adds him) were absent for the last 2 embarrassing defeats. So that’s why he keeps going back to them.

I make the OP right. But I am more and more frustrated with Mahers formation stubbornness though. It feels like Bob is refusing to do his physio some days.

 

[IloveShrimp]

I am really pleased for you but nevertheless your experience has nothing to do with Southend United and the current predicament

I was trying to express the importance of positive thinking and how important it is to succeed. I was relating my experience against the negativity on the pitch both in tactics and some player attitudes, and in response to post 26.

 

[dannypav]

Why is that, i respect others opinions, just because the majority are not happy does not mean there cannot be other perspectives. That is why we are here. I disagree with a lot of the OP comments but they are entilted to them.

It was just a small gag on the title.
As in many on here overreact immediately without any thought on perspective.
Just a gag.
Nothing serious.

 

[pottster]

Leyton Orient destroyed your theory by 9 years. What happened to them on the pitch was transformed by a quality managerial appointment and shrewd signings. I have no doubt a better manager would get us in top 7 with what we have now getting the best out of the players we have, not the worst.

I don't see anyone expecting top of the table though. We're losing to teams with budgets a tiny fraction what what Kev has to use.

Didn't grimsby do it in 1 or 2 seasons? Albeit through the play off.

 

[Piledriver]

A lot of nonsence being spouted on here recently, and yes I know that's par for the course, but seems like the crazy went up a few notches so I wanted to put up a counter point to the madness.

The first concept to get your head around is the idea of a rebuild. Rebuilds are not instant, even for a team that hasn't had the issues we have, but has perhaps aged out of being contender for whatever league they're in, in whatever sport they're in. To undo they damage that was done over DECADES will take DECADES. We have not yet progressed from "survive" to "thrive".

The best analogy I can think of for the way some people think on here is: imagine Bob is in a hospital and goes in to cardiac arrest, but is resusitated by the will and skill of the Cardiac Operations Special Unit. Bob is now in recovery, he may have long term physical damage that will require ongoing medical care and physiotherapy. The day after Bob's life saving operation, 6000 idiots burst in to his room demanding he run, and win, the London Marathon.

We are Bob.

The club are twelfth in the league, they're not in immediate danger. Yes, performances have been dire on occasion, but if you're surprised by that as a Southend fan, congrats on attending your first game. My opinion is if we make it out of the National League by the end of the decade, that's probably on track with where a club that came so close to the brink should be.

Those of you that are tearing your hair out because the club aren't challenging for the top spot: adjust your expectations, I promise you, you'll have more fun. Get mad at individual performances, for sure, but don't call for wholesale changes to a club that desperately need to stabilize, you'll never be happy.

Not sure about the high expectations as the problem though as far as I'm concerned, I just can't see where the goals are coming from now , especially if we concede first and relying on kevs plan B .

 

[WestyReturns]

Didn't grimsby do it in 1 or 2 seasons? Albeit through the play off.

Yes they did however I used Orient as an example as they were a club in turmoil destroyed by a bad owner who struggled in their first season on the national league. A total transformation in a matter of months!

 

[southchurch]

Bob went to the doctors with a slight cold. Now both his legs are broken.

 

[Callum]

All I can say is we have a club under new ownership good times are ahead

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Not sure about the high expectations as the problem though as far as I'm concerned, I just can't see where the goals are coming from now , especially if we concede first and relying on kevs plan B .

What plan B?

 

[Roger The Alien]

What plan B?

His plan B was to throw the towel in and give up …

 

[Barling Magna]

I agree with much of what the original poster said. I certainly won't criticise COSU; without them SUFC would not exist anymore. I can even accept defeat by Sittingbourne - it was a cup match and these things happen surprisingly often - but I wasn't happy with the team selection for that game. Why change what had worked well in the previous two matches?

The defeat at Maidenhead is harder to accept because the team selection and tactics were wrong again - our management seemed to have missed the lessons from the Sittingbourne game whilst so many posters on SZ had not. For the first twenty minutes it appeared that the players were going for it with lots of forward passes and pressing forward. But then it reverted to the "patient build up" and momentum was lost. We had a couple of shots on target but about a dozen blazed over the bar or punted wide of the post. We were making chances but none of them were as good as they could have been because of unnecessary extra passes or poor crosses. We are unable to break down massed defences if we take too long in the build up.

Maidenhead scored with a textbook example of how to take a free kick and head powerfully into the net. Abrahams is a past master at this. It should come as no surprise - they beat us 2-0 at the Hall with both goals coming from Abraham's set pieces.

At this point we needed another attacker but the subs were like for like. Why?

Maher needs to take more risks as a manager. He struck upon a team selection and tactics that worked well against Daggers and Fylde - and then changed it. That is difficult to fathom.

Nonetheless I don't support the Maher Out calls yet. As long as we stay clear of relegation I think he is safe in his job this season. Next season though he has to gain a play off place.

But for Pity's Sake Kev - revert to the team and tactics that did so well and was good to watch against Daggers and Fylde. Please.....

 

[Thundersley Blue]

I agree with much of what the original poster said. I certainly won't criticise COSU; without them SUFC would not exist anymore. I can even accept defeat by Sittingbourne - it was a cup match and these things happen surprisingly often - but I wasn't happy with the team selection for that game. Why change what had worked well in the previous two matches?

The defeat at Maidenhead is harder to accept because the team selection and tactics were wrong again - our management seemed to have missed the lessons from the Sittingbourne game whilst so many posters on SZ had not. For the first twenty minutes it appeared that the players were going for it with lots of forward passes and pressing forward. But then it reverted to the "patient build up" and momentum was lost. We had a couple of shots on target but about a dozen blazed over the bar or punted wide of the post. We were making chances but none of them were as good as they could have been because of unnecessary extra passes or poor crosses. We are unable to break down massed defences if we take too long in the build up.

Maidenhead scored with a textbook example of how to take a free kick and head powerfully into the net. Abrahams is a past master at this. It should come as no surprise - they beat us 2-0 at the Hall with both goals coming from Abraham's set pieces.

At this point we needed another attacker but the subs were like for like. Why?

Maher needs to take more risks as a manager. He struck upon a team selection and tactics that worked well against Daggers and Fylde - and then changed it. That is difficult to fathom.

Nonetheless I don't support the Maher Out calls yet. As long as we stay clear of relegation I think he is safe in his job this season. Next season though he has to gain a play off place.

But for Pity's Sake Kev - revert to the team and tactics that did so well and was good to watch against Daggers and Fylde. Please.....

Think you will find that Husin was missing due to illness and the same for Bridge.

 

[secondalibi]

Yes, we're in a rebuild phase, but it doesn't mean we should just accept mediocrity. Supporters want and expect results, it's human nature. We currently have a pretty decent squad with some good players, but their abilities are not being utilised by the current management team. Everyone can see what the issues, but nothing ever changes. There's no fire or spark, the players look flat. We can't just sit back and accept us being poor. Something has to change.
If we continue as we are, we're just sleep walking. Maher won't change his tactics, he's been very clear about that, he's one dimensional in his thinking. He could stay here for another 5 years and he'll still play the same way. He could have a bigger budget and sign better players, but I doubt that it would change anything. Kev is not the man to take us forward. We'll always appreciate what he's done, but we can't just stay blindly loyal to him and go nowhere.

 

[Tampa Blue]

If we continue as we are, we're just sleep walking. Maher won't change his tactics, he's been very clear about that, he's one dimensional in his thinking. He could stay here for another 5 years and he'll still play the same way. He could have a bigger budget and sign better players, but I doubt that it would change anything.

 

[Barling Magna]

Think you will find that Husin was missing due to illness and the same for Bridge.

True but replacing Bonne with new boy Hopper was a poor decision, just as Bonne had finally scored v Fylde and had that massive boost to his confidence. Why break up that successful trio of strikers?

Also Gubbins for Golding....?

 

[Kris]

Yes, we're in a rebuild phase, but it doesn't mean we should just accept mediocrity. Supporters want and expect results, it's human nature. We currently have a pretty decent squad with some good players, but their abilities are not being utilised by the current management team. Everyone can see what the issues, but nothing ever changes. There's no fire or spark, the players look flat. We can't just sit back and accept us being poor. Something has to change.
If we continue as we are, we're just sleep walking. Maher won't change his tactics, he's been very clear about that, he's one dimensional in his thinking. He could stay here for another 5 years and he'll still play the same way. He could have a bigger budget and sign better players, but I doubt that it would change anything. Kev is not the man to take us forward. We'll always appreciate what he's done, but we can't just stay blindly loyal to him and go nowhere.

I don't think anybody is accepting mediocrity; there are just some posters, like myself, who are willing to be patient in the short term. This time last season my opinion was that this season would be the one to judge Maher but that was before all the horror of potentially losing our club and the delay over COSU's takeover. My expectations lowered as a result and I'm willing to judge him based on our results and performances in the opening few games next season.

 

[Leeboy]

True but replacing Bonne with new boy Hopper was a poor decision, just as Bonne had finally scored v Fylde and had that massive boost to his confidence. Why break up that successful trio of strikers?

Also Gubbins for Golding....?

v Daggers mate

 

[Leeboy]

All I can say is we have a club under new ownership good times are ahead

yes with this style of football and recent results we will romp the National League South title in 26/27

 

[Ian Benjamin]

Kev and Co were amazing to standby Bob (us) during the darkest days & they were able to get us to the point where COSU had something to buy.

The point lots of people are trying to make is that this is worse football to watch than when we had 12 players. We have lost two games on the spin without scoring to two part time teams. One who was 3 leagues below us.

On Saturday we barely laid a glove on Maidenhead - the management had a whole week to get the players ready to fight for themselves and the massive travelling support.

That plainly didn't happen.

We are allowed to criticise Kev, he is allowed to defend himself - but something has to change.

I can't imagine COSU are too chuffed with the play offs drifting away either.

This is probably the weakest season we have been in the NL, & it looks like we will not make the top 7 again.

Not win the thing, or come second but not be in the top 7 teams in the 5th league.

 

[londonblue]

'Some perspective' - shorthand for 'I'm perfectly happy with the substandard crap being currently presented and you should be too, and if you're not, you're obviously not as intelligent as me'.

Here's some perspective. This isn't good enough.

That's not the way I see it.

I'm not impressed at the moment, but I understand the underlying reasons and, as much as it goes against my instinct of a knee jerk reaction, I'm staying patient and giving the management team time.

A rebuild is slow and frustrating, but it would be even worse to cut it short and not let it play out.