Post-Match Thread and Ratings Oldham FC 3-2 Southend Utd

[gpd]

OK, I hope the person has the courage to own up. Who was It who said "Ten minutes, only ten minutes!"

There's a Youtube clip of the final minutes of the 2015 final against Wycombe. taken by Wycombe fan you can clearly hear a Wycombe fan say "last minute, last minute" just as the cross comes over which gets headed down and JP scores the equaliser. Comedic levels of timing. Someone says in this thread that we look forward to being back at Wembley next year. Personally...I would rather we got promotion by not needing to go to Wembley again. COYB's!

 

[Southend Elvis]

I too was surprised gw didnt come on. Gus was so spent he didnt even have the strength to put a cross in... plus it would have given him a chance to play at wembley which not everyone gets to do.

Everyone wants to play at Wembley, I hope that doesn't effect his attitude next season.

 

[tallboyblue]

Everyone wants to play at Wembley, I hope that doesn't effect his attitude next season.

I wonder how much money the club made over the trip to Wembley.

 

[Zeuss]

I’ve had a few days now to try and get over my bitter disappointment and can’t now forget either of my 2 earlier predictions:
I predicted we’d get to extra-time but lose.
And earlier
in the season,I had to say that much as I appreciated all of his tremendous work and loyalty over such a long time,I didnt think Maher was tactically good enough to lead us out of this dreadful league and we were always likely to come second to a decent team with a good manager.
Maher’s critics have nearly always claimed that he is far too defence-minded and certainly that could be seen in his 3 obvious selection mistakes in Sunday’s starting line-up :
1)a less than fully effective Miley in place of the more constructive Coker.
2) Bridge,who is not the player he was last season ,instead of our best attacker Parillon.
3) Hopper,who never threatens,in place of Bonne,who admittedly didn’t convert on Sunday, but is quicker,better in the air and does get into goalscoring positions.

 

[Piledriver]

I don't understand why GW didn't come on, push Gus up front and he could have been backwards and forwards with fresh legs.
I'm now worried, if Gus stays with us that GW will put in a transfer request....I definitely would now not being used and not even given 10 minutes at Wembley. Bit of man management.
Unless the deal has already been done for Gus?

Agree entirely missed opportunity to get wind on for last 8 or so minutes, Gus was clearly done for, a clear opportunity for a Wembley appearance for the lad missed.

 

[The Original Tribal Chief]

I'm getting sick of this lovefest with Oldham fans. Being a good loser isn't the mark of a winner.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

There's a Youtube clip of the final minutes of the 2015 final against Wycombe. taken by Wycombe fan you can clearly hear a Wycombe fan say "last minute, last minute" just as the cross comes over which gets headed down and JP scores the equaliser. Comedic levels of timing. Someone says in this thread that we look forward to being back at Wembley next year. Personally...I would rather we got promotion by not needing to go to Wembley again. COYB's!

Of course, it was that comment I was alluding to. I just added 'only' because I couldn't be ars*d to check It up verbatim

 

[Fozzie]

This photo says quite a bit. I took it when we were 2-1 up at half time of Extra Time.

 

[Barling Magna]

I'm getting sick of this lovefest with Oldham fans. Being a good loser isn't the mark of a winner.

Are you furious all the time? Can't be easy.....

 

[Flinty]

This photo says quite a bit. I took it when we were 2-1 up at half time of Extra Time.

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Looks like Goodliffe is doing the team talk

 

[The Original Tribal Chief]

Are you furious all the time? Can't be easy.....

It ain't easy being me, but I don't shirk the responsibility.

 

[Mad Cyril]

I'm getting sick of this lovefest with Oldham fans. Being a good loser isn't the mark of a winner.

Show me a good loser and I will show you a loser - Vince Lombardi

 

[Elmsleigh shrimper]

There's a Youtube clip of the final minutes of the 2015 final against Wycombe. taken by Wycombe fan you can clearly hear a Wycombe fan say "last minute, last minute" just as the cross comes over which gets headed down and JP scores the equaliser. Comedic levels of timing. Someone says in this thread that we look forward to being back at Wembley next year. Personally...I would rather we got promotion by not needing to go to Wembley again. COYB's!

Yes this is a timeless classic that I never tyre of watching. There's also one from the Wycombe end where one of their fans says "they've been ****" referring us. The goal itself was a thing of beauty and although we've long since ****ed away any gain from that magical moment, it's always worth a watch

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

This photo says quite a bit. I took it when we were 2-1 up at half time of Extra Time.

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Without viewing a pic of Oldham's team at the same time, it's difficult to comment. But one observation when the teams reappeared for the 2nd half stuck out a mile.
Oldham came out the tunnel as a unit, all in discussion, whereas we seemed to appear in drips & drabs?.
Did that make a difference to their initial mindset, who knows?. But as they got their penalty within a minute or so, possibly they were more focused with their concentration than we were?.

 

[Scapegoat]

Lots of our fans blaming Goodliffe or Hayes but that was a quality touch and finish by Norwood. The energy then swung from us to you.

Bonne had the easiest chance of the match at 2-1 in the first half of the extra time but bottled it and took a needles and bad touch. Then Walker wasn't cool enough to finish his chance in the second half of extra.

Couple of things to look out for. Your 16 when Walker was on that run. Seem to just give up. Then just moments later we had 7 men in your half when you hoofed to Norwood. We ended up with a 3v3 situation whilst 2-1 up in extra. I wondered why Ralph (our LB) hand not swept round behind Goodliffe and Taylor. Only after watching the highlights I could see he was distracted by the Oldham lad unmarked and out on our left.

We paid the price for for finishing line syndrome, lets put it to bed with 3rd naive excitement. With tired legs all it takes is one long ball and someone with a touch of composure and it all changed.

Having said that I had great day with great bunch. A couple long term friends came back from overseas as well. We didn't fancy the train queue so dived in one of the hotels. Mainly Southend at first then Oldham outnumbered us. We stayed until well gone 8pm and both sets of fans were a credit to their club. Oldham never took the **** and non of us whinged. We were totally honest when we wished you lads well and were glad it was you and not someone like FGR.

Wembley stadium, The NL and all the politicians involved tried to take the p*** out of all of us. Im proud to say between us we rose above all of them.

Good luck to Oldham in L2. Im already looking forward to another day out a Wembley next May

The ball forward that Norwood scores from....I think that results in a goal 1 in 20 times. The defender wins it, or does enough to put the forward off 50%, the first touch goes nowhere useful a few times, the second touch (which was sublime IMO) doesn't work most of the time / the keeper makes a different choice and its a more difficult finish that goes wide (like Fondop in the 1st half).

It's easy to be hard on your team and see fault - but I think that based on the 'moments' in the game, it could have gone either way.

Ref gives a red and the 1st half penalty - we maybe run out comfortable winners. You take your chance to make it 3-1, you clearly win the game. Norwood doesn't produce a moment of skill, you probably run out winners.

We haven't been in many big or important games over the years - and we certainly haven't won many of them - but the 'love in' as it was described between the two sets of fans is rare and welcome. Oldham fans are rightly impressed by the approach and attitude of your fanbase - someone commented the last group that we felt like that about to the same extent was Forest in the 90 League Cup. We were on the other side of the result that time but recall seeing supporters from both teams playing football at the services on the way home.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I've not brought myself to read this or comment as yet, need to settle down for a long stretch to do so.

Who is Julian?

Justin Rees presumably.

 

[bluesfansince1952]

Luckily he is a UEFA Pro Licence qualified coach with almost 30 years experience inside the game as a player, manager and coach but yes, Kev logs in to SZ to read a load of rubbish about how we should "play forwards more" and just "take the handbrake off".

Sometimes, moments in games go the way of the other team. It is not always the manager's fault.

Oh dear...my always suspect sense of humour failed to register...Unlike some i have trust in km's ability and experience knowing that perfection is unachievable and given the circumstances he has to work in and the players he has at his disposal he does San outstanding job... the original post was in jest!

 

[Whispering Bob]

If you look at goals Hayes concedes, he really does seem to have a weakness low down to his left. Granted he made a good save to his left in the game . He does his best but Collin in my view is quite some way in front of him. Just hope Collin gets over these injuries in time for the start of next season.

He made a very smart stop to his left at Wembley. Quite a few keepers are stronger on one side than the other - Joe Hart for example was noticeably weaker diving to his left (so was I!).
As for penalties, the side I am assistant coach to played a cup final at the Daggers ground recently. Thanks to the fad of teams putting their matches on YouTube these days I noted that their keeper dived every time to his left during their Q Final shoot-out. That stat was relayed in the dressing room beforehand. We got a penalty just before half-time......of course, he dived to his right!

 

[gpd]

Of course, it was that comment I was alluding to. I just added 'only' because I couldn't be ars*d to check It up verbatim

Didnt need to check it up....it's forever etched. :-)

 

[jarvisyeh]

I'm getting sick of this lovefest with Oldham fans. Being a good loser isn't the mark of a winner.

Im sick of reading various stories of our fans embarrassing the club. For once, I feel proud of every aspect of the Southend United.

We went to Wembley and we weren't outplayed, we just got unlucky during crucial moments.
We weren't out thought, we just ran out of steam.
We weren't out sung. The fans support was incredible throughout the match.
For the most part we weren't embarrassed by the behaviour of the fans. (There is always a small amount of every fanbase that take it too far)

Most proud I've been to be a Southend fan in a very long time.