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Wessex Blue
Manager
Add to that the fact that Jesus is revered as a prophet & Mary is held in very high esteem in Islam.[b said:Quote[/b] (Xàbia Shrimper @ Dec. 07 2005,22:21)]Therefore you probably won't be interested in two letters in the Daily Mail this morning:
CHEER FOR CHRISTMAS
"As "Sikhs in England", we wish to make it clear that the Sikh faith has no objection to the celebration of Christmas - it would be wrong if anyone used the excuse of not wanting to offend the Sikhs in this regard. Sikhs in England would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas."
FESTIVE SPIRIT
"I'm of the Jewish faith and was both in this country. I have worked in offices here for most of my life. I have assisted my co-workers in putting up Christmas decorations, have enjoyed office parties, and have received and given presents. None of this has ever offended me. Britain is a Christian country and should be respected as such. I have always been allowed to celebrate my own Jewish holidays with joy, and have also joined in the Christmas festivities. Who on earth decides it is offensive?"
And a snippet from a third letter might interest you:
GEORGE'S APPEAL
"Celebrating St George's Day doesn't give 'offence' to Muslims. St George is revered by Muslims under the name Jirgis Baqiya and his shrine at El Kedir in Palestine was a place of pilgrimage for both Christians AND Muslims."
Hmmm ...
WS
At the end of the day I think it'll be the ethnic / religious minorities who finally put an end to this politically correct nonsense. The overwhelming majority of whom find absolutely no offence in the celebration of Christmas in this country. They're the poor sods who end up getting the backlash and the blame when some idiotic pen pusher decides to ban something on entirely spurious grounds.
The racists, the religious extremists and the the tw@ts who initiate bans should all be put on a remote rock, like St Kilda, in the North Atlantic and left to work out their differences. Then the rest of us could get on with business as usual.
Yellow Army
Members
guys, guys, its all about buying pikey presents and reciving decent ones
bring-back-N'Diaye
Guest
Is the Daily Mail not the extreme right-wing?[b said:
If any faith (other than pagan) has cause for grievance over the treatment of Christmas in this country I would suggest that it is Christianity. What should be the second most important religious festival has been hijacked and Christmas is now all about worshipping mammon, not Christ.
bring-back-N'Diaye
Guest
CS J - there's only one Che Wilson, so what exactly is your point?
canveyshrimper
R.I.P
You know that was the woman i loved!
Firestorm
Pedant
Jeez[b said:
in 1979 3/4 of the country thought that the Falklands were off the coast of Scotland. Then a scrap metal merchant from Beunos Aires decides he fancies some of the scrap on South Georgia (left behind by Argentinians previously enmployed by the british companies working there) and all feckin hell breaks loose.
It was another futile conflict about Oil and if that makes 3 Million unemployed. Inflation at 15% and Interest rates at 17% pale into insignicance in peoples eyes, it makes you wonder what they do with the right to vote !!!
Bob Cratchitt
Devil's Advocate
And the previous decade was a barrel of laughs, 3 day weeks, unions controlling the country, not knowing whether there would be electricity to have your xmas decorations lit or to be able to cook your turkey by, rubbish piling up on the streets i could go on.[b said:
It is always easy to have a pop at Mrs T because towards the end of term she went slightly megalomanic. All PM's have had their good times and their bad, problem is when a PM has been in office a while they start to ignore the people (the voters) who got them where they are and they start to feel comfortable.
The best form of government maybe one who is changed between the parties each 5 years, that way keeping them on their toes to keep our interests at the fore.
Also remember the Conservative ideology is based on the extended family whereas the Labour is on the nuclear family, which translates roughly to the family unit looks after it's own whilst the other depends on the state to provide.
Anyway back to the point of the thread, as many have said the fault of all this kerfuffle is the pen pushers not the other religions, so remember that and wish peace on earth as is the true wish behind Xmas.
Desert Shrimper
The Oil Baron
Out of interest, do you write this kind of crap knowing full well that you'd be hard pressed to find a Muslim/Jew/Hindu etc in the whole of Britain that could care less about Xmas decorations? Be honest, it's just another attempt to stir up racist comments to fully support your own views isn't it?[b said:
Xàbia Shrimper
Co-founder of ShrimperZone
The sinking of the Belgrano was certainly a "great" moment in our history ... not. Respect?! Are you mad?
Xàbia Shrimper
Co-founder of ShrimperZone
But you do mention the fact that you consider the UK to be a "white Christian country" which is a generalisation. According to the last census figures 91% of the country as a whole considers itself as "white" (this figure drops to 87% when you apply it to England only) whilst less than three-quarters of the country considers itself to be "Christian".[b said:
BTW : I don't remember seeing any press release that mentions the British being prevented from celebrating Christmas. There are various suggestions and proposals in work-places and ethnically-sensitive areas but certainly no evidence of a nationwide exclusion on the personal celebration of the birth of the Messiah. I take it the likes of CS J and True Blue will be attending mass on Christmas Day to thank God for the birth of our saviour Jesus Christ as they feel so strongly on the subject? Or are they just spouting right-wing b******s ... ?
WS
Javea
Desert Shrimper
The Oil Baron
I'm not your "pal" nor would I seek to be...and I'll say what I want thanks. If you think I'm wrong then try and debate your way out of it. The fact is that you're views seems consistenly anti any kind of minority and you leave the impression that a good night out for you would be a pint down "The Bigot" where you can bemoan the introduction of non-Anglo Saxons to these shores in 1790 and discuss how you'd "make 'em all swim back." I may have you completely wrong but this is how you come across on here. Not everyone on this site is necessarily white and/or christian (so what?) and as it's a football site it depresses me to come on here and find the same tired old racist nonsense being trotted out time and time again.....[b said:
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