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Post-Match Thread and Ratings Leyton Orient 1-2 Southend United
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Nangyman
I was in the bath for most of the game, 5 live didn't announce the 2nd goal so thought we had scraped a draw, needless to say I was over the moon when James Alexander Gordon's inverted intonation confirmed a first away win in London in what, 8 years?
I'm ill by the way, otherwise may have ventured the three stops along the central line to the game, funnily enough I thought we would win.
I'm ill by the way, otherwise may have ventured the three stops along the central line to the game, funnily enough I thought we would win.
yogi bear up the cagire
Life President⭐
Sometimes it's good to follow your heart rather than your head :)
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Ayrshire Blue
The Custard Splat
Thought it was going to be another one of the those days were all our pressure wasn't going to count for anything. First half we didn't create many clear cut chances but we were well on top.
Good attitude from all the players and nice to see some different names on the scoresheet.
Good attitude from all the players and nice to see some different names on the scoresheet.
BaileytheQuitter
Spelling Guru
Relief to get the points more than anything. Thought the new formation worked quite well. Good to have 3 CM's actually in the middle of the park rather than on the wings. Barnard was absolutely brilliant. For someone who only a season ago was a fragile, injury prone player low on confidence, his transformation is remarkable. Winning header after header. Making chances for himself, his chest down and turn volley was close to being a contender for goal of the season. Top marks to Barney today. Morrison was amazing at the back, again. Good performance, although Orient looked very poor.
Ratings
Joyce: A better performance. Would be cruel to argue whether he could have done better with the goal. Certainly don't feel Mildenhall would have saved it. Some good decisive catches and kicking was improved. 7
Francis: Did he end up with 2 assists? Good delivery for Barrett's goal and looked dangerous going forward as well. Decent defensive performance also. 7
Morrison: Class. The best defender at the club, and his only 18. Would love him to sign in January but can't see it happening. Good consistent match winning everything that was thrown at him. 9 and MOTM
Barrett: Played well today, showed good passion and commitment. His goal just raises his rating to an 8.
Malone: A few sloppy mistakes but generally very good. Still only young and his a danger going forward which is useful considering he was our only left footed player going forward. 7
Scannell: Felt that he needed to get out wider. If we were going to change our tactics and formation to the way that we did, then our wide players needed to stretch the other team. For me, he didn't do that enough. Some good runs and got into the channels. Just feel his a bit behind everyone else in terms of footballing brain and technical ability. 6
Moussa: Glad he was in the middle. Thought he did okay, and with Macca was effective at breaking down attacks and getting the ball forward. Nothing spectacular but solid none the less. 7
McCormack: Glad for him he got a goal. Don't know if he's staying, but if he is, hope it will give him some confidence! Good performance. I know he gets some stick, but I like Macca. Winning goal at Orient so he gets, like Barrett, just about an 8.
Grant: I can't stand him. At fault for the goal with three mistakes in the space of two minutes. Just not good enough. Some good tackles and positioning but how many more goals will he cost us before the fans can see his is a massive liability. A very generous 5.
Laurent: Didn't really get into it today. Some decent runs but no final ball. Not that effective on the left wing either. 6
Barnard: Brilliant. When I heard he was playing lone striker, I worried. But how wrong I was. Great performance, winning headers, turning players, holding up the ball and making chances for himself. At times drifted out to the wings when he should be in the box but still, top performance. We have to keep him until the summer. 8
Subs:
Walker: I was hoping he has started but the 4-5-1 obviously wasn't accomodating to him. Did okay when he came on. 6
Christophe: Gave away a few silly free kicks, but also won some good headers. 6
Ref: Pathetic. 4
UP THE BLUES!
Ratings
Joyce: A better performance. Would be cruel to argue whether he could have done better with the goal. Certainly don't feel Mildenhall would have saved it. Some good decisive catches and kicking was improved. 7
Francis: Did he end up with 2 assists? Good delivery for Barrett's goal and looked dangerous going forward as well. Decent defensive performance also. 7
Morrison: Class. The best defender at the club, and his only 18. Would love him to sign in January but can't see it happening. Good consistent match winning everything that was thrown at him. 9 and MOTM
Barrett: Played well today, showed good passion and commitment. His goal just raises his rating to an 8.
Malone: A few sloppy mistakes but generally very good. Still only young and his a danger going forward which is useful considering he was our only left footed player going forward. 7
Scannell: Felt that he needed to get out wider. If we were going to change our tactics and formation to the way that we did, then our wide players needed to stretch the other team. For me, he didn't do that enough. Some good runs and got into the channels. Just feel his a bit behind everyone else in terms of footballing brain and technical ability. 6
Moussa: Glad he was in the middle. Thought he did okay, and with Macca was effective at breaking down attacks and getting the ball forward. Nothing spectacular but solid none the less. 7
McCormack: Glad for him he got a goal. Don't know if he's staying, but if he is, hope it will give him some confidence! Good performance. I know he gets some stick, but I like Macca. Winning goal at Orient so he gets, like Barrett, just about an 8.
Grant: I can't stand him. At fault for the goal with three mistakes in the space of two minutes. Just not good enough. Some good tackles and positioning but how many more goals will he cost us before the fans can see his is a massive liability. A very generous 5.
Laurent: Didn't really get into it today. Some decent runs but no final ball. Not that effective on the left wing either. 6
Barnard: Brilliant. When I heard he was playing lone striker, I worried. But how wrong I was. Great performance, winning headers, turning players, holding up the ball and making chances for himself. At times drifted out to the wings when he should be in the box but still, top performance. We have to keep him until the summer. 8
Subs:
Walker: I was hoping he has started but the 4-5-1 obviously wasn't accomodating to him. Did okay when he came on. 6
Christophe: Gave away a few silly free kicks, but also won some good headers. 6
Ref: Pathetic. 4
UP THE BLUES!
fredheim_holm
Where art thou Tes 🦐
6 - Joyce - Mildy could probably have kept out the Orient goal but other than that an improved performance.
7 - Francis - Pretty much did everything asked of him, a trademark Francis cross for the winner.
8 - Morrison - Just about my MOTM, won 95% of the headers and looked comfortable all game.
7 - Barrett - Did alright defensively, didn't do too much wrong and got the vital goal to get us back into the game.
6 - Malone - Looked reasonably solid all game, made a few good runs forward and did his job but other than that an average outing.
6 - Laurent - Never really got going, had a few good runs with the ball but didn't manage to create anything. Always a threat but it wasn't to be this time.
7 - McCormack - Got the goal and was often looking for the ball, a reasonable performance from the Irishman.
7 - Grant - Did pretty much what was asked of him, didn't notice him too much so for a defensive mid that bodes well. At fault with McCormack on my memory for not putting his foot through it for their goal.
7 - Moussa - Not the most astonishing of performances from Franck in the middle of the park but did his job most of the time, a run of the mill central mid performance.
6 - Scannell - Didn't deserve some of the harsh criticism he got from the fans today, doing reasonably well offensively (apart from THAT 'cross'), but defensively didn't put his body on the line enough which made him look disinterested.
7 - Barnard - No goals for him today (although he'll claim otherwise) but ran his socks off up front alone and held the ball up quite well.
subs:
6 - JFC - Did his job when he came on, looked reasonably steady. No qualms over his performance.
6 - Walker - Didn't have much to do when he came on, didn't touch the ball much in the 20minutes.
7 - Francis - Pretty much did everything asked of him, a trademark Francis cross for the winner.
8 - Morrison - Just about my MOTM, won 95% of the headers and looked comfortable all game.
7 - Barrett - Did alright defensively, didn't do too much wrong and got the vital goal to get us back into the game.
6 - Malone - Looked reasonably solid all game, made a few good runs forward and did his job but other than that an average outing.
6 - Laurent - Never really got going, had a few good runs with the ball but didn't manage to create anything. Always a threat but it wasn't to be this time.
7 - McCormack - Got the goal and was often looking for the ball, a reasonable performance from the Irishman.
7 - Grant - Did pretty much what was asked of him, didn't notice him too much so for a defensive mid that bodes well. At fault with McCormack on my memory for not putting his foot through it for their goal.
7 - Moussa - Not the most astonishing of performances from Franck in the middle of the park but did his job most of the time, a run of the mill central mid performance.
6 - Scannell - Didn't deserve some of the harsh criticism he got from the fans today, doing reasonably well offensively (apart from THAT 'cross'), but defensively didn't put his body on the line enough which made him look disinterested.
7 - Barnard - No goals for him today (although he'll claim otherwise) but ran his socks off up front alone and held the ball up quite well.
subs:
6 - JFC - Did his job when he came on, looked reasonably steady. No qualms over his performance.
6 - Walker - Didn't have much to do when he came on, didn't touch the ball much in the 20minutes.
Can't agree at all. I agree he should have cleared the ball for their goal, but to call Grant a liability is crazy. He's the best defensive mid we could get in this league, I'd love to see him stay here for a long time to come. Get him a good attacking player alongside him and I can see a formidable partnership forming.
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Pretty poor game, although a very enjoyable result. Orient are terrible.
We lined up in a sort of 4-5-1, but it could also be described as 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 as Laurent and Scannell were pushing forward on the wings.
The main benefit of the change in formation is that it allowed Franck Moussa inside and he was integral to all our best moments of the first half. Scannell in particular looked very lively for the first 15 minutes, benefiting from some well weighted Moussa passes, until Orient figured out that Scannell hasn't a left foot and just showed him the outside. Moussa probably came closest to scoring first half when he ghosted into the 6 yard box and got on the end of a right-wing cut-back but his effort was blocked.
Ratings
Joyce 5 will be "disappointed" with the goal he let in and didn't real control his area looking very hesitant at balls that fell between the keeper and the defence. Did however come and claim some crosses well and looks good in that respect, otherwise he looks to me like an outfield player put in goal.
Francis 6.5 - typical Francis. Played some fantastic balls into the area (his set pieces were superb) but also made the usual infuriatingly sloppy mistakes. His first pass of the game was overhit by 30 yards. How do you do that? He remains our most potent attacking weapon though.
Malone 7 - I know I'm in a minority, but I really like the look of him. His delivery is good, although not as good as Francis, but his decision making is that much better.
Morrison 8 MOM - an absolute rock at the back. He looks so much stronger now then he did a month ago and looks to have really benefited from this loan spell.
Barrett 7 - Orient didn't have much to deal with in defence, but he popped up well in attack!
Grant 6.5 - looked to tire just before he was subbed and had a horrible 5 minutes leading up to the goal where he gave the ball away 3 or 4 times in quick succession. Prior to that had looked assured in the centre of the pitch and provided good cover for the defence.
Moussa 7 - the only player who looked to have the bit of extra quality about him, although his influence waned 2nd half as our ball-winners were unable to get the ball down onto the grass and let him probe.
McCormack 5 - other than elbowing the ref he looked half a yard off the pace again. I was surprised to see him pop up to score, not just because he managed to keep his shot in the stadium, but because I'd forgotten he was still on the pitch.
Laurent 6 - playing on the wing means he gets to run at defenders, but he's running from his own half and that means he doesn't really hurt teams - other than maybe us when he loses it and they can counter-attack.
Scannell 6.5 - looked bright early on and provided an outlet, but didn't really look like doing much more than win lots of corners.
Barnard 7 - worked tirelessly up front by himself, bringing down several balls he had no right to win, but really missed not having any support up front.
Subs Walker 6 - did OK but nothing more
Christophe 5 - game passed him by as he never seemed to adjust to the pace of it.
Whilst this victory will no doubt be put down to the switch to 4-5-1, I think the formation will need to be tested against better opposition. Orient offered nothing and this win tells us as much about the merits of 4-5-1 as beating Hartlepool tells us about the merits of 4-4-2.
We lined up in a sort of 4-5-1, but it could also be described as 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 as Laurent and Scannell were pushing forward on the wings.
The main benefit of the change in formation is that it allowed Franck Moussa inside and he was integral to all our best moments of the first half. Scannell in particular looked very lively for the first 15 minutes, benefiting from some well weighted Moussa passes, until Orient figured out that Scannell hasn't a left foot and just showed him the outside. Moussa probably came closest to scoring first half when he ghosted into the 6 yard box and got on the end of a right-wing cut-back but his effort was blocked.
Ratings
Joyce 5 will be "disappointed" with the goal he let in and didn't real control his area looking very hesitant at balls that fell between the keeper and the defence. Did however come and claim some crosses well and looks good in that respect, otherwise he looks to me like an outfield player put in goal.
Francis 6.5 - typical Francis. Played some fantastic balls into the area (his set pieces were superb) but also made the usual infuriatingly sloppy mistakes. His first pass of the game was overhit by 30 yards. How do you do that? He remains our most potent attacking weapon though.
Malone 7 - I know I'm in a minority, but I really like the look of him. His delivery is good, although not as good as Francis, but his decision making is that much better.
Morrison 8 MOM - an absolute rock at the back. He looks so much stronger now then he did a month ago and looks to have really benefited from this loan spell.
Barrett 7 - Orient didn't have much to deal with in defence, but he popped up well in attack!
Grant 6.5 - looked to tire just before he was subbed and had a horrible 5 minutes leading up to the goal where he gave the ball away 3 or 4 times in quick succession. Prior to that had looked assured in the centre of the pitch and provided good cover for the defence.
Moussa 7 - the only player who looked to have the bit of extra quality about him, although his influence waned 2nd half as our ball-winners were unable to get the ball down onto the grass and let him probe.
McCormack 5 - other than elbowing the ref he looked half a yard off the pace again. I was surprised to see him pop up to score, not just because he managed to keep his shot in the stadium, but because I'd forgotten he was still on the pitch.
Laurent 6 - playing on the wing means he gets to run at defenders, but he's running from his own half and that means he doesn't really hurt teams - other than maybe us when he loses it and they can counter-attack.
Scannell 6.5 - looked bright early on and provided an outlet, but didn't really look like doing much more than win lots of corners.
Barnard 7 - worked tirelessly up front by himself, bringing down several balls he had no right to win, but really missed not having any support up front.
Subs Walker 6 - did OK but nothing more
Christophe 5 - game passed him by as he never seemed to adjust to the pace of it.
Whilst this victory will no doubt be put down to the switch to 4-5-1, I think the formation will need to be tested against better opposition. Orient offered nothing and this win tells us as much about the merits of 4-5-1 as beating Hartlepool tells us about the merits of 4-4-2.
sadsy
Long time Sufferer !⭐
"Can't agree at all. I agree he should have cleared the ball for their goal, but to call Grant a liability is crazy. He's the best defensive mid we could get in this league, I'd love to see him stay here for a long time to come. Get him a good attacking player alongside him and I can see a formidable partnership forming. "
Totally agree with you there , hope he'll be there for years.
Totally agree with you there , hope he'll be there for years.
tottenham541
President
a big well done to the 1400 southend fans that made it well worth the trip today as it was a great day an the support was 1st class.
EastStandBlue
Life President
Can't understand people being hesitant about Barnard playing up top on his own, He might aswell have been doing it since August...
BaileytheQuitter
Spelling Guru
That's true. All Barnard needs is Francis and he'll get goals.
BaileytheQuitter
Spelling Guru
His utterly awful. If we sold him then I'd be delighted.
Clinton Baptiste
Life President⭐
Thought it was a dire game with little quality on either side. Pleased with the result but must be put in context that we were up against the worst Orient side, indeed one of the worst footballing sides I have seen us ever play.
Dont think we played much better than our recent games we have lost but we did look pretty solid at the back. Didnt think the formation worked particularly well as Scannel and Laurent were both very poor. Best creative player once again Simon Francis, really shows up the midfield with his good passing and pinpoint crossing.
Joyce 6- didnt have much to do, thought he couldve done better with goal but again blame must go down to our failure time and time again to clear lines.
Francis- 8, MOM, very good performance defensivley and offensively.
Barret- 7, well taken goal and solid at the back
Morrison- 7, v solid as always
Malone-6, poor set pieces and his crosses always seem to hit the first man.
Laurent- 5, anonymous. 1 good game then 5 average ones.
Moose- 6, better but still didnt create much.
Macca- 7, good all round performance from Macca.
Scannel- 5, invisible, did nothing when he had the ball. Goodbye at end of season.
Grant- 6, some good things, some bad things, typical Granty really.
Barnard- 7, once again having to play the role of 2 strikers, and didnt disappoint.
Subs- made no impact at all.
Dont think we played much better than our recent games we have lost but we did look pretty solid at the back. Didnt think the formation worked particularly well as Scannel and Laurent were both very poor. Best creative player once again Simon Francis, really shows up the midfield with his good passing and pinpoint crossing.
Joyce 6- didnt have much to do, thought he couldve done better with goal but again blame must go down to our failure time and time again to clear lines.
Francis- 8, MOM, very good performance defensivley and offensively.
Barret- 7, well taken goal and solid at the back
Morrison- 7, v solid as always
Malone-6, poor set pieces and his crosses always seem to hit the first man.
Laurent- 5, anonymous. 1 good game then 5 average ones.
Moose- 6, better but still didnt create much.
Macca- 7, good all round performance from Macca.
Scannel- 5, invisible, did nothing when he had the ball. Goodbye at end of season.
Grant- 6, some good things, some bad things, typical Granty really.
Barnard- 7, once again having to play the role of 2 strikers, and didnt disappoint.
Subs- made no impact at all.
fbm
Blue tinted optimist⭐🦐
I couldn't believe how poor Orient were at the back today. I had a long conversation after the match with a mate who is a seaso for them and he hasn't been to as many matches as usual because it is just awful football.
He sits behind the goal to our left as we were sat and said Joyce should have saved their goal. He thought at times we took them apart down their left and when you think about it we put in a huge amount of crossses today - many more than usual.
The number of unforced errors - well, not even errors, just poor defensive decisions - by their back four was beyond belief and should have been a much easier 3 points than it actually was.
As much as I like him, I thought Macca looked as though he had put on a few pounds over Christmas. Still, he - together with Moussa and Grant - broke up most Orient attacks after the first 10 mins and of course he chipped in with the winner so long may that continue.
Thought it was quite funny when the teams came out and they had some bloke who looked as though he was a Sunday league division 7 player. It turned out to be their mascots Dad who dressed in full kit to lead the team out. Is that a bit sad or what? Takes the glory away from his son, doesn't it? Or perhaps he always wanted to do it and the kid was just an excuse.
Anyway, a good 3 points on the road, it stops the losing away streak and means we have done the double over Orient for the first time since...
Guesses anyone?
He sits behind the goal to our left as we were sat and said Joyce should have saved their goal. He thought at times we took them apart down their left and when you think about it we put in a huge amount of crossses today - many more than usual.
The number of unforced errors - well, not even errors, just poor defensive decisions - by their back four was beyond belief and should have been a much easier 3 points than it actually was.
As much as I like him, I thought Macca looked as though he had put on a few pounds over Christmas. Still, he - together with Moussa and Grant - broke up most Orient attacks after the first 10 mins and of course he chipped in with the winner so long may that continue.
Thought it was quite funny when the teams came out and they had some bloke who looked as though he was a Sunday league division 7 player. It turned out to be their mascots Dad who dressed in full kit to lead the team out. Is that a bit sad or what? Takes the glory away from his son, doesn't it? Or perhaps he always wanted to do it and the kid was just an excuse.
Anyway, a good 3 points on the road, it stops the losing away streak and means we have done the double over Orient for the first time since...
Guesses anyone?
Sandbach Shrimper
Life President⭐
Thought it was a poor standard of match, Orient were awful we were slightly better. We improved in the 2nd half, even after Orient scored I felt we could get something as we were causing them problems. The new formation sometimes left Barnard isolated but worked well when Moussa and Macca got forward and Grant sat back. Not a great performance but the first time I've seen us win at Brisbane Road and the away support was superb so won't complain. My ratings:
Joyce 6 - Could be questioned for the goal but otherwise very solid, came out to claim balls into the box and a couple of decent saves.
Francis 7 - Our best player down the wings with Scannell and Laurent being poor and defended pretty well overall. Set-pieces were good.
Morrison 8 - Please sign him, Ron. Brave, solid as a rock and no-nonsense.
Barrett 8 - Like Morrison, dealt with everything that came his way (admittedly not much) and scored the crucial equaliser. Usual committment and celebratory fist-pumping. Good captain's performance.
Malone 6 - Sound defensively and got forward well to support Scannell but his crosses into the box weren't very good.
Laurent 5 - Anonymous. What happened to the Laurent who tore Hartlepool apart?
Grant 6 - Him and Macca at fault for a goal again but otherwise did alright in the defensive midfielder role.
McCormack 7 - Better than some of his recent performances and more like the Macca we like - tackling, winning the ball, controlled passion, getting things going, got forward more in the 2nd half to support Barnard and got the winning goal. His first of the season and it meant a lot to him.
Moussa 6 - Fairly quiet going forward but put himself about in the middle and did quite well alongisde Macca.
Scannell 5 - This was his chance to show us and Tilson he can be in the starting 11 and he wasted it. Lazy, didn't stay out wide enough, looked low on confidence and I'm still yet to be convinced by him.
Barnard 8 - If he wants to leave in Janaury he's certainly not playing like it. Another display of non-stop running and effort, didn't get a lot of service but hassled Chorley all afternoon and won a lot in the air.
Subs Walker and JFC - We improved after the double change but I think that was coincidence as they were both fairly ineffective. All JFC did was give away free-kicks.
Joyce 6 - Could be questioned for the goal but otherwise very solid, came out to claim balls into the box and a couple of decent saves.
Francis 7 - Our best player down the wings with Scannell and Laurent being poor and defended pretty well overall. Set-pieces were good.
Morrison 8 - Please sign him, Ron. Brave, solid as a rock and no-nonsense.
Barrett 8 - Like Morrison, dealt with everything that came his way (admittedly not much) and scored the crucial equaliser. Usual committment and celebratory fist-pumping. Good captain's performance.
Malone 6 - Sound defensively and got forward well to support Scannell but his crosses into the box weren't very good.
Laurent 5 - Anonymous. What happened to the Laurent who tore Hartlepool apart?
Grant 6 - Him and Macca at fault for a goal again but otherwise did alright in the defensive midfielder role.
McCormack 7 - Better than some of his recent performances and more like the Macca we like - tackling, winning the ball, controlled passion, getting things going, got forward more in the 2nd half to support Barnard and got the winning goal. His first of the season and it meant a lot to him.
Moussa 6 - Fairly quiet going forward but put himself about in the middle and did quite well alongisde Macca.
Scannell 5 - This was his chance to show us and Tilson he can be in the starting 11 and he wasted it. Lazy, didn't stay out wide enough, looked low on confidence and I'm still yet to be convinced by him.
Barnard 8 - If he wants to leave in Janaury he's certainly not playing like it. Another display of non-stop running and effort, didn't get a lot of service but hassled Chorley all afternoon and won a lot in the air.
Subs Walker and JFC - We improved after the double change but I think that was coincidence as they were both fairly ineffective. All JFC did was give away free-kicks.
fbm
Blue tinted optimist⭐🦐
Disagree. He's far more likely to be picked up by playing well and banging in goals.
yogi bear up the cagire
Life President⭐
Our first double of the season...........................wonder how many more of them there will be?
sammyboy
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Brighton!!!
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