Lets get him out!!!

[superblue24]

You find someone like that willing to bankroll the Club then I'll be first to protest at Ron Martin's front door.

Why not? You're only assuming that a new owner would be unwilling to erase our debts and invest money into the club....We see it all the time with other clubs.

Problem of course does not lie there, it lies with the fragmented pieces of our club aall belonging to RM.....And his probable unwillingness to release them as a suit.

 

[GBJ]

Beefy, the clue is in the question isn't it.....do something. Every individual SUFC fan has a duty to oust this man, or very least make his time here, uncomfortable. Why? Because from what i know/have been told, we are in trouble. More trouble than you can imagine. Last year's escapades were just the start of it. We've had the 'eye of the storm', and unless a minor miracle happens, the **** will hit the fan and it'll be sooner rather than later.

My personal stance is if we're going to bail out, then we might aswell try everything we can first. Even if our attempts are in vain, i'd rather know that I/we, did all we could, instead of wondering to myself, could I have done more?

 

[GBJ]

You find someone like that willing to bankroll the Club then I'll be first to protest at Ron Martin's front door.

Ok, we don't know much about the Consortium, and they may be just as evil as Martin. However, we don't know who else would be interested, and never will untill Martin puts the club up for sale. Only then, i suggest, would you see anymore potential buyers come out of the woodwork.

 

[united we stand]

I heard the same story about the bouncy bouncy cheques from 2 separate and reliable sources, so I'm inclined to believe this latest story is actually only the tip of the iceberg with regards to current cashflow problems...

If they both bounced at the same time then I will accept that we simply didn't move the money across accounts at the right time. If we look at this logically we know we have the Sainsbury money/access to the money. We can not have run out of cash already - can we ? There was nothing in the annoucements that said that the payements to us would be staggered---could that be the issue (assuming the cheques did bounce) , the payments are staggerred and we are still not living within our means ? :unsure:.

 

[Beefy]

Well the clue is in the question isn't it.....do something. Every individual SUFC fan has a duty to oust this man, or very least make his time here, uncomfortable. Why? Because from what i know/have been told, we are in trouble. More trouble than you can imagine. Last year's escapades were just the start of it. We've had the 'eye of the storm', and unless a minor miracle happens, the **** will hit the fan and it'll be sooner rather than later.

Trust me, I suspect that we're further up **** creek than anyone.That's half the problem. We're so far beyond the point of no return that I think our only option is to sit tight and hope that things work out ok.

 

[BrettieAngell]

We could write a letter to Peter Lim and see if he fancies buying us out or better still Hicks and Gillett.

No thanks.

 

[Napster]

and never will untill Martin puts the club up for sale. Only then, i suggest, would you see anymore potential buyers

Not true. The consortium made a hostile bid, why is that detering other potential suitors?

 

[Big Albert]

Fry's departure was the second loss of a manager that really affected me (Webby's fallout with Jobbo being the first) but it hid me the hardest. We were really going places and, I beleive, could have got to the PL with that management team and set of players. There has never been as much desire for me to protest about the mismanagement of SUFC than in the past 5/6 months though.

However, your comment about Tilson deals = good, forced signings = bad is so far from the truth is honestly laughable. Look at the comments regarding how T&B interviewed at Lincoln with their numerous contacts being mentioned on various occasions. I was given, in confidence, a list of players that T&B wished to sign over the course of time but were disrupted/prevented from taking further thanks to the chairman and "advisor" - certainly a lot more exciting and talented players than a certain Scotsman can trawl up anyway...

It's a shame people weren't "careful what they wished for" when the grumblings against ST started. Look at the mess we're in now...

Agree losing Dave Webb was a blow as well. As for lists of players how do you know they were all affordable. I don't know about any lists but I heard that Tilly wanted more strikers but there was obviously something wrong as the ones we had didn't produce (Barnard came good at the end ) but they all went onto be regular goalscorers elsewhere - I wonder what was wrong with our coaching / style of play? I don't think my comment is far from the truth at all.

I also agree with you about the grumblings against ST ages ago. I had many an argument with people who thought he had run his course - run out of ideas etc. I wonder how many of those are now on here ranting against his sacking

 

[GBJ]

Not true. The consortium made a hostile bid, why is that detering other potential suitors?

Firstly, for all we know, others could have approached Martin about a possible takeover, and it's been flat rejected.

Secondly, Imagine you was a potential buyer. You've seen the Consortium have had 3 offers rejected. What makes you think your's will be accepted? So you don't bother

Thirdly, our "best potential buyer", may know nothing of our situation, and only when the talk of the club being for sale, would someone become interested?

All possibilites....

 

[Lester Bangs]

By that admission though, If the worst case scenario happened, and we went to the wall through Martin's shenanigans, would you feel guilty for doing nothing?

Absolutely this!

Sitting about and HOPING it works out is a bit hit and miss, if it doesnt work out then we're screwed. One thing I can pretty much guarantee is that Sainsburys will get their new shiny store. I'm unsure if the same can be said about the stadium. Where will we be then?

Surely a more proactive approach would be better.

All this 'he holds all the cards and there's nothing we can do' attitude smacks of defeatism to me.

 

[JD]

No Ron = No Club

Maybe someone should do a poll asking people what they would prefer..........

a) Ron out - No Club (lets start again, playing in the Southend District Sunday League Div 9b)

b) Ron In - Club to support

PS - i don't think there are enough passionate people to make option a) work ...............

 

[WESTY_SUFC]

Trust me, I suspect that we're further up **** creek than anyone.That's half the problem. We're so far beyond the point of no return that I think our only option is to sit tight and hope that things work out ok.

Which we have done for a while now and in that time it has gone from bad to worse along with being fed false promises from our great leader.

What are waiting for? The club to go under? Waiting for all the fans to disappear because that is happening.

I'd be happy to join in whatever is agreed by the fans to let Martin know we are sick of him. In my opinion this should of happened last season and Martin may have walked away palming the club off to the consortium. He has got away with murder!!!!

 

[GBJ]

No Ron = No Club

Maybe someone should do a poll asking people what they would prefer..........

a) Ron out - No Club (lets start again, playing in the Southend District Sunday League Div 9b)

b) Ron In - Club to support

PS - i don't think there are enough passionate people to make option a) work ...............

What about secret option; C) Ron stays - the club goes to the wall and everyone's sitting around scratching their arse wondering why?

 

[WESTY_SUFC]

No Ron = No Club

Maybe someone should do a poll asking people what they would prefer..........

a) Ron out - No Club (lets start again, playing in the Southend District Sunday League Div 9b)

b) Ron In - Club to support

PS - i don't think there are enough passionate people to make option a) work ...............

a) not true. The consortium have stated they are willing to take the club from Ron but he will not sell.

 

[GBJ]

Which we have done for a while now and in that time it has gone from bad to worse along with being fed false promises from our great leader.

What are waiting for? The club to go under? Waiting for all the fans to disappear because that is happening.

Absolutely spot on Westy. We were told back in the summer, it was over a done with, our problems were over and the future looked bright. People were content to wait in hope. Fast forward to now;The rumour mill is doing overtime. Apparently Ron has been upto his old tricks, and people are still content to "wait and see what happens, let's pray it's ok". The fanbase is dwindling. The silense from the club is deafening, and we're one courtcase away from being wound-up. Alarm bells should be ringing loud and clear.

I'd be happy to join in whatever is agreed by the fans to let Martin know we are sick of him. In my opinion this should of happened last season and Martin may have walked away palming the club off to the consortium. He has got away with murder!!!!

Spot on again

 

[canveyshrimper]

a) not true. The consortium have stated they are willing to take the club from Ron but he will not sell.

Which is very generous of them considering they are another group of property developers, albeit with perhaps a bit more cash on the hip than Ron.

As ever I'm not advocating for Ron Martin, but one question, how do we get him out?

 

[superblue24]

Can't we get him committed? He has totally lost the plot.

 

[Crawliano]

It seems you can only drum up support without getting told to "do one" or "stop being negative" when the team are losing.

Hasn't seemed to stop Man United fans doing their best to get rid of the Glazer's whilst winning European Cups, Premiership Trophies et al. If there was a decent plan of action I think some would get on board. Personally, I don't know what I can do other than just not go or buy anything SUFC related, but that's just cutting my nose off to spite my face.

Just remember 13 years ago the fans raided the pitch and smashed the goals up etc because of Jobson, what did that realistically do? Naff all. Fair enough a couple of years later we were sold but that was more circumstance than anything else (correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it to do with ill health and the fact that the ground couldn't have it's mortgage increased any more and a merry bunch of property men wanted us?)

 

[superblue24]

On a more serious note, maybe we could do something viral.....

Maybe all create a 5 second video short each and send to someone who has the ability to put it altogether....Send it out via internet and a copy to SUFC and RM....The affect of these things can often turn a lot of heads around the country/world if done in the right way and cleverly. There was one done for Hicks and Gillett a month ago I think, but I'm sure we could do better.

Sorry if it's a **** idea, but angry mobs dont seem to work, and I'm trying to put forward a suggestion.

 

[EastStandBlue]

Yeah, there was one done for Hicks and Gillett, and it was painfully embarassing and much derided by sections of the press.