Kacper Lopata

[tommy tucker]

I personally couldn’t give a monkeys where he ends up he’s now an ex player life goes on . Let’s all look forward to Tuesday night at the hall.

Well said i could not agrree more

 

[Medway Blue]

If that was the case, he wouldn't have advised him to drop from a club in the championship to one in the NL. What sort of advice is that? I mean, I'm pleased for us (or I was), but when players make that sort of move it is only ever about money and they are either being paid way too much or the agent is making a killing.

The sort of advice that Ron Martin agreed to pay him £18k to give, and then didn't keep good on.

 

[fbm]

The sort of advice that Ron Martin agreed to pay him £18k to give, and then didn't keep good on.

I think that's my point... not really in the players interest.

 

[Blue Yonder]

The sort of advice that Ron Martin agreed to pay him £18k to give, and then didn't keep good on.

Is that it. This whole row is about £18K ? The agent can be bought for £18K ? FFS

 

[Maxgoyard]

A players contract cannot be terminated due to an agent contract. The agent can take the player to court over the monies due however.

This must have been over the 28 days late, being regarded as a serious breach of contract by the club

 

[Texas Eslan]

I wonder if rons offered a slice of the development profits to any club employees in return for their loyalty....

Why you digging at Stan? Pointless jibes trying to rile him up to respond. Not a fan of his are you?

 

[Medway Blue]

I think that's my point... not really in the players interest.

All goes back to my general point about agents' exploitation of young players. I understand young players don't have the knowledge/experience/patience to negotiate for themselves but why hand over so much power over their careers to the agent? Grow a set and stand up for yourself. I know Kacper genuinely wanted to come here in the summer, he kept in touch with the club for that reason. The agent stalled and stalled to try to find him somewhere else and it was only when RM stepped in and offered an agent fee (a financially irresponsible one that he had a good idea he'd be unable to pay) that his agent agreed to open negotiations.

Sorry but in my mind, if a player tells his agent that he wants to come here then that ought to be enough to open negotiations. The agent works for the player......not the other way around.

 

[fbm]

All goes back to my general point about agents' exploitation of young players. I understand young players don't have the knowledge/experience/patience to negotiate for themselves but why hand over so much power over their careers to the agent? Grow a set and stand up for yourself. I know Kacper genuinely wanted to come here in the summer, he kept in touch with the club for that reason. The agent stalled and stalled to try to find him somewhere else and it was only when RM stepped in and offered an agent fee (a financially irresponsible one that he had a good idea he'd be unable to pay) that his agent agreed to open negotiations.

Sorry but in my mind, if a player tells his agent that he wants to come here then that ought to be enough to open negotiations. The agent works for the player......not the other way around.

Yes, that is a good point. I knew he loved it here, which is why it is so disappointing now.

 

[Holy Joe]

A players contract cannot be terminated due to an agent contract. The agent can take the player to court over the monies due however.

This must have been over the 28 days late, being regarded as a serious breach of contract by the club

Could there have been signing on payments in KL contract? The late wages were rectified on the 28th day? And we still don't know where 28 days comes from do we?

 

[Medway Blue]

A players contract cannot be terminated due to an agent contract. The agent can take the player to court over the monies due however.

This must have been over the 28 days late, being regarded as a serious breach of contract by the club

Can't it? How do you know that for sure? If it forms part of the contract and the payment isn't forthcoming, then it's a breach of contract.

 

[Blue43]

I think we need to stop and think. Elounda or RHL get the £5m bridging loan. Do we really think for one minute that Ron would just hand the whole lot over to Tom? He would hand over what is needed now to clear HMRC and certain debts, and as before drip feed the rest monthly and hope that he does need to do it for too long.

No, but I would have liked to think if Ron had one shred of decency left in him that he would have transferred enough over to Tom to pay the long suffering office staff their 3 months wages they are owed, I guess not though.

Then again, this is Ron Martin we’re talking about here.

 

[kentblues]

No, but I would have liked to think if Ron had one shred of decency left in him that he would have transferred enough over to Tom to pay the long suffering office staff their 3 months wages they owed, I guess not though.

Then again, this is Ron Martin we’re talking about here.

Agree but do we know he hasn’t? You guess not- I don’t know. For sure if they aren’t paid and there is no movement on the embargo next week questions will rightly be asked

 

[ChalkwellShrimper]

Over and above KL's base salary, which is/was likely to be high relative to the rest of the squad, perhaps Ron agreed to make additional bonus payments based on appearences, results, league position or even simply the passage of time e.g. signing on fee split over x months and, even allowing for the late Jan and marginally late Feb payments, these specifically have not been honoured. With Rehman seriously hacked off over the £18k or more there was always a real possibility that it would unfold in ths way it has.

Wouldn't suprise me as Ron, generally not just in this instance, seems to be far more interested (even excited) about 'the chase' and doing the deal then seems to rapidly lose interest in whatever it is he's promised.

 

[Medway Blue]

I have just had confirmed what I suspected for a while......

Ron Martin meeting with the players and coaching team at the training ground and threatening to make things difficult for anybody who tried to leave was a turning point for Łopata.

I've heard the word "bully" used.

Excellent look.

 

[kentblues]

I have just had confirmed what I suspected for a while......

Ron Martin going to the training ground and threatening to make things difficult for anybody who tried to leave was a turning point for Łopata.

I've heard the word "bully" used.

Excellent look.

You are absolutely right- this is extremely foolish. Be cold comfort for Lopata who has another potentially protracted didpute on his hands. Feel for the player tbh ( not the agent - his job is to provide wise council- and the jury’s out on that bit for a few weeks)

 

[wivs]

Agree but do we know he hasn’t? You guess not- I don’t know. For sure if they aren’t paid and there is no movement on the embargo next week questions will rightly be asked

I personally know a club employee that has only been paid 2 months of the 3 months wages they are owed.

 

[kentblues]

I personally know a club employee that has only been paid 2 months of the 3 months wages they are owed.

Which is at one level completely unacceptable and in the other progress. Let’s see where we are end of next week….

 

[kentblues]

I think someone said we appealed against his decision and we lost (quickest employment tribunal in history if so!).

First step of many available…let’s hope an amicable resolution

 

[Target man]

I have just had confirmed what I suspected for a while......

Ron Martin meeting with the players and coaching team at the training ground and threatening to make things difficult for anybody who tried to leave was a turning point for Łopata.

I've heard the word "bully" used.

Excellent look.

I'm glad some truths are coming out .... Kacper is a decent lad. Martin is the real villain.

 

[LeedsSUFC]

I have just had confirmed what I suspected for a while......

Ron Martin meeting with the players and coaching team at the training ground and threatening to make things difficult for anybody who tried to leave was a turning point for Łopata.

I've heard the word "bully" used.

Excellent look.

I hope Lopata does an interview for the very delayed/non-existent documentary (if it still exists/is getting released??)