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Kacper Lopata

Two things to clear up straight away with this:

1) This is RM’s fault. Not Lopata, Kev & co, the players, his agent, or anyone else. It’s a breach of his contract, which ultimately is down to RM.

2) Lopata DID NOT punch Lomas. Utter garbage that story, and even worse from whoever changed the title of the thread.

This is disappointing news, but something I’d heard a snippet of in the week from someone on here. Ultimately, I hoped he’d see the season out and, had we got promotion, and hoped that would be enough to convince him to stay.

This hasn’t been handled in the best way, and I agree Lopata could have waited till today to come and collect his stuff/say his goodbyes but it is what it is I’m afraid.

It doesn’t look good on him how he has exited both Sheffield United (not that we moaned then) and us now. However, football is a dark and murky game, and he won’t have any problem finding another Club, and if he does the same to them, there would still be a queue of Clubs will to pick him up.

As I understand it, he can sign for an EFL Club, but can’t be registered or play for them this season because he wasn’t a free agent at the end of the January transfer window. His only option is to sign for a non-league side. He was at Boreham Wood in the week to watch his mate Zak Brunt, and he knows another player from his Sheffield United days there too.

Does he take a deal with a Wrexham or a Notts County and hope to get into the EFL that way, or does his bide his time until the Summer and get his move this way.

He’ll be a loss, of course he will, but we didn’t lose last night because of the back three. As I’ve said before, the football department will have a list of players to replace anyone that leaves, so there will be an idea who comes in to replace him. Obviously, we can’t do that at the moment.

I was led to believe the embargo would have been cleared by now, it was linked to the HMRC debt, so we had to clear that and then see the National League too to get it all confirmed there end. If there was a hearing regards Lopata, that would have taken priority. Hopefully, it’s cleared next week and we crack on again.

Last night showed we need reinforcements.
Only thing hurts others had same thought he cares? He don’t worse than Ron
 
Because of Martin's unique blend of incompetence and chicanery we have lost someone who was arguably our only realistic saleable asset in the squad as well as a player who would have been able to step up to EFL football if the occasion ever arose. Blaming his agent or accusing Lopata of disloyalty is just the usual distraction tactics employed by Martin's mouthpieces and those who are duped by them. Maybe other players who have a realistic chance of a career elsewhere will follow, time will tell but all the while Martin is in control, we will never break this endless cycle of wind up petitions and non payment of staff and service providers.
Bridge, Kensdale, Hobson, Scott-Morriss
 
What serious breach of contract? All the other players took the late payment (I’m not saying it’s right)….was there something else or did he just have a **** of an agent!
Not paying an employee is a serious breach of contract. He has every right to do what he did.

However, i didn't realise he had a family that are dependent on him. I suspect he's just added that for effect, which wasn't necessary.
 
Two things to clear up straight away with this:

1) This is RM’s fault. Not Lopata, Kev & co, the players, his agent, or anyone else. It’s a breach of his contract, which ultimately is down to RM.

2) Lopata DID NOT punch Lomas. Utter garbage that story, and even worse from whoever changed the title of the thread.

This is disappointing news, but something I’d heard a snippet of in the week from someone on here. Ultimately, I hoped he’d see the season out and, had we got promotion, and hoped that would be enough to convince him to stay.

This hasn’t been handled in the best way, and I agree Lopata could have waited till today to come and collect his stuff/say his goodbyes but it is what it is I’m afraid.

It doesn’t look good on him how he has exited both Sheffield United (not that we moaned then) and us now. However, football is a dark and murky game, and he won’t have any problem finding another Club, and if he does the same to them, there would still be a queue of Clubs will to pick him up.

As I understand it, he can sign for an EFL Club, but can’t be registered or play for them this season because he wasn’t a free agent at the end of the January transfer window. His only option is to sign for a non-league side. He was at Boreham Wood in the week to watch his mate Zak Brunt, and he knows another player from his Sheffield United days there too.

Does he take a deal with a Wrexham or a Notts County and hope to get into the EFL that way, or does his bide his time until the Summer and get his move this way.

He’ll be a loss, of course he will, but we didn’t lose last night because of the back three. As I’ve said before, the football department will have a list of players to replace anyone that leaves, so there will be an idea who comes in to replace him. Obviously, we can’t do that at the moment.

I was led to believe the embargo would have been cleared by now, it was linked to the HMRC debt, so we had to clear that and then see the National League too to get it all confirmed there end. If there was a hearing regards Lopata, that would have taken priority. Hopefully, it’s cleared next week and we crack on again.

Last night showed we need reinforcements.
The most logical thing i have heard is that RM promised both the agent and player fees for joining us and signing a 3 year contract. Those fees have not been paid so the agent saw a way out of a 3 year contract by using the 14 day rule to maybe back RM into a corner. RM tried to call their bluff, (remember he told the players at the traing ground they would not win against him) It didn't work so he left and is now free to sign for whoever he wants and get a signing on fee. RM is the person to blame over this as you state.

The question has to be asked why they were not paid when RM has got his loan now and why other parties who are owed money have not been paid either. Where is the balance of the loan if we are once again short of money? Why are we still under an Embargo?

A list of players maybe lined up... that may be true but what player in their right mind would want to join us at the moment with our track record. and the person at the helm being such a self centred psychopath.

Of course we will live to battle on until the next fiasco RM brings upon us. It has been less than a week since the HMRC one and yet another arises.

I feel for Kev and the backroom team and players when you do all you can to make our club successful with forward thinking plans whilst in the background somebody is setting fire to them all.
 
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The most logical thing i have heard is that RM promised both the agent and player fees for joining us and signing a 3 year contract. Those fees have not been paid so the agent saw a way out of a 3 year contract by using the 14 day rule to maybe back RM into a corner. RM tried to call their bluff, It didn't work so he left and is now free to sign for whoever he wants and get a signing on fee. RM is the person to blame over this as you state.

The question has to be asked why they were not paid when RM has got his loan now and why other parties who are owed money have not been paid either. Where is the balance of the loan if we are once again short of money? Why are we still under an Embargo?

A list of players maybe lined up... that may be true but what player in their right mind would want to join us at the moment with our track record. and the person at the helm being such a self centred psychopath.

Of course we will live to battle on until the next fiasco RM brings upon us. It has been less than a week since the HMRC one and yet another arises.

I feel for Kev and the backroom team and players when you do all you can to make our club successful with forward thinking plans whilst in the background somebody is setting fire to them all.
Just admit he’s another player thought he cared polish shame.
 
One less mouth to feed, I suppose. Boys have managed ok without him last few weeks so that’s not a problem. However, losing at home is a problem and we’ve got two very hard games coming up and we are very weak up front right now.
 
Two things to clear up straight away with this:

1) This is RM’s fault. Not Lopata, Kev & co, the players, his agent, or anyone else. It’s a breach of his contract, which ultimately is down to RM.

2) Lopata DID NOT punch Lomas. Utter garbage that story, and even worse from whoever changed the title of the thread.

This is disappointing news, but something I’d heard a snippet of in the week from someone on here. Ultimately, I hoped he’d see the season out and, had we got promotion, and hoped that would be enough to convince him to stay.

This hasn’t been handled in the best way, and I agree Lopata could have waited till today to come and collect his stuff/say his goodbyes but it is what it is I’m afraid.

It doesn’t look good on him how he has exited both Sheffield United (not that we moaned then) and us now. However, football is a dark and murky game, and he won’t have any problem finding another Club, and if he does the same to them, there would still be a queue of Clubs will to pick him up.

As I understand it, he can sign for an EFL Club, but can’t be registered or play for them this season because he wasn’t a free agent at the end of the January transfer window. His only option is to sign for a non-league side. He was at Boreham Wood in the week to watch his mate Zak Brunt, and he knows another player from his Sheffield United days there too.

Does he take a deal with a Wrexham or a Notts County and hope to get into the EFL that way, or does his bide his time until the Summer and get his move this way.

He’ll be a loss, of course he will, but we didn’t lose last night because of the back three. As I’ve said before, the football department will have a list of players to replace anyone that leaves, so there will be an idea who comes in to replace him. Obviously, we can’t do that at the moment.

I was led to believe the embargo would have been cleared by now, it was linked to the HMRC debt, so we had to clear that and then see the National League too to get it all confirmed there end. If there was a hearing regards Lopata, that would have taken priority. Hopefully, it’s cleared next week and we crack on again.

Last night showed we need reinforcements.
Thanks for clearing up certain issues and spot on as always.
 
No one is putting the blame solely on Lopata!

Everyone is in total agreement that Ron is the reason we have come to this situation. Lopata and his agent wouldn’t have been able to do this if Ron had paid him on time.

If Lopata had waited until today to sort things and not do so in the manner he has the reaction would be different.

We all fully understand the lack of wages, the false promises etc. But there is a way of going about your business and that is not the best way.

Ron is to blame 100% for this situation happening.
 
Am I the only one who is absolutely stunned with this?

The same player who worked so hard to force a move to his ‘beloved’ Southend United in September, now doing his best to force a move away some 6 months later.
Before anyone comes at me though, I’m not naive to the severity of the situation - don’t get me wrong - Ron’s management of our financial position is a complete disgrace and has left us open to being pillaged by other clubs. It is not right to not pay people, and Ron has put us at risk of losing a carefully assembled squad that KM and his team have worked with meticulously to make the club competitive, It just appears Lopata is the first, and hopefully the only one, to take the bait.

However, at least from what we’ve been told, the players have now received wages for January and February have they not?

This to me smacks at an agent and a misled young player taking advantage of a situation here. It’s the timing that doesn’t add up.

If you were unhappy/couldn’t live without your wages, why not leave a month ago if you were genuinely leaving over the pay issue? At that point he would have gone 28 days unpaid and could have triggered his notice. He could have left 15 days later, in Mid-Feb, so why not then? All that leads me to believe he has had his head turned in the last few days, as he certainly didn’t look like a man who wasn’t invested in the celebrations at Torquay a week ago.

I sense one of the top NL clubs (probably Wrexham or Notts County if I had to guess) have tapped him up and he has used the financial situation as the reason, when in reality he fancies the move and wants to get out of his contract easily without the move being scuppered by the buying club having to pay a fee. Obviously if the buying club don’t have to pay a fee, it of course gives the agent more wiggle room to negotiate a better fee for himself and Kasper will no doubt get a package too.

The sad thing about this is that if Kasper really loved the club, he could have continued playing well for us, earned himself a well deserved move to a bigger club in the summer, whilst simultaneously netting the club a much needed transfer fee that could have boosted our short to medium term financial picture.

In doing so, Kaspar could have left a legacy by helping ensure his team mates/colleagues are less likely to face the same pay issues as previously experienced, left with dignity, retained his hero status with the fans, not called his attitude/reputation into question from those within the game by forcing a second move in 6 months.

Don’t for a second get to thinking I’m pro-Ron here though - that donkey has a lot to answer for as well. Because of his financial mismanagement of his businesses/inability to take the correct decision for the well-being of the club by accepting outside investment, he has left us susceptible to this situation, and moreover cost the club and potentially himself a substantial transfer fee from the buying club.

As @davewebbsbrain has said, it speaks volumes that the rest of the squad have chosen to stay loyal to each other and the fans who have supported them unwaveringly up and down the country, whereas Kasper has chosen the first decent opportunity to get out to do just that.

And to add insult to injury, he thinks it’s appropriate to grab his boots and offer a few goodbyes on the eve of a match? At least if you want to go have the courtesy to let the remaining players and staff focus on the job at hand without the unwelcome distraction of negative news. If he really wanted what was best for the club and group, he wouldn’t have done that.

To be honest, I’ve lost a lot of respect for Lopata. He’s handled the whole situation with a lack of dignity, character and left us in the lurch as we go into a critical stage of the season.

Good luck to him, I’m sure he will have an excellent career as he is a talented lad, but but he certainly won’t be getting a pat on the back from me when he inevitably returns to the Hall in the future.
 
No one is putting the blame solely on Lopata!

Everyone is in total agreement that Ron is the reason we have come to this situation. Lopata and his agent wouldn’t have been able to do this if Ron had paid him on time.

If Lopata had waited until today to sort things and not do so in the manner he has the reaction would be different.

We all fully understand the lack of wages, the false promises etc. But there is a way of going about your business and that is not the best way.

Ron is to blame 100% for this situation happening.
As a Pole, I won’t defend him on what he did, what he did, was unacceptable. He could done it after the match, not before the match. His actions really affected the team on the pitch, never easy to brush the incidents under the carpet and forget about it.
 
I doubt that we’ll ever find out the full reasons behind his departure. The real shock is not that he has left us, but that so many others have stayed. !!
Considering the state that Martin has reduced us to, who could blame any player for wanting to be free of a club in our condition. ???? Endless court appearance, embargoes, pariah status, constantly being on the edge of bankruptcy, waiting and hoping for wages to appear, a laughing stock, and the dark cloud of the owner hanging over us like a toxic poison cloud that won’t go away,…surely, that all adds up to a state of soul destroying misery and frustration from a players point of view….

Our frustration, anger and resentment should focus not on this young man, but on the grifter who has treated our club with such abysmal contempt.

Thank god for KM and his team. If it were not for them, I’m sure many others would have departed before now. They deserve the highest praise.

“in Ron we trust”. Eh ???
 
I agree with this, move on.

To those who are worried we’ve lost out on a transfer fee, do you seriously believe that Sheffield United would’ve been stupid enough not only to let Lopata out of his contract, but also not to demand a huge part of any sell on. If we had sold him of our own free will, I’m damn sure Sheffield United would’ve got the lion share of any fee.

What Lopata and his agent have been able to do here, by chance, is get both us and Sheffield United off the wage bill, leaving them to pick up an enhanced sign-on fee (because there’s no transfer fee) somewhere else. As I said at the start, we move on.
There’s a thought, if Sheffield did have a sale clause I wonder if there will be any recourse on us for mismanagement of his Contract costing them a potential fee
 
Agree with this. Kensdale has been excellent this season and really grown as a player. May do well to hold on to him in the summer

We should never have let Kensdale leave, but he was one of 7 young players let go too early at the time in a cost cutting measure. I think his release was a wake up call for the young man, ending up at Concord Rangers made him realise his full time football career was at stake and now he is showing what we knew he was always capable of.
 
Didn’t we pay a fee for Lopata?

Does breach of contract mean we no longer hold his registration and therefore will receive nothing if he signs for another club?
 

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