Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[Benfleet A1]

Bloody hell!! They are leaving the front bench quicker than a refugee from Syria.

http://news.sky.com/story/1551400/labour-frontbench-exodus-after-corbyn-win

Also, I found this quote. Food for thought in the sense that will Corbyn change some of his views and principles for the good of the party or demand a mandate that isn't fully supported by the majority and only run for the minority.

Labour’s leadership result is “an act of political stupidity unparalleled since Caligula appointed his horse to the Roman senate,” said Steve Fielding, professor of politics at the University of Nottingham.
“Given his unwillingness to compromise his views with the opinions of millions of the British electorate, Corbyn is more qualified to lead a pressure group than a party that seriously aspires to government,” Fielding said.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Bloody hell!! They are leaving the front bench quicker than a refugee from Syria.

http://news.sky.com/story/1551400/labour-frontbench-exodus-after-corbyn-win

Perhaps they can join the Tories, no doubt where their true political feelings lie.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Psyico Killer ?

Hugely off topic but The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain do a fantastic version of this!!!

 

[southendkid]

Bloody hell!! They are leaving the front bench quicker than a refugee from Syria.

That's not that surprising, clearly Corbyn is going to want a reshuffle to reflect the direction he is taking the party. The current people on the front bench are going to know they won't be part of that direction so it's better for them to resign now and make it look like it was their choice than wait for Corbyn to remove them instead.

 

[londonblue]

Hugely off topic but The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain do a fantastic version of this!!!

Complete rubbish. No-one does Talking Heads better than David Byrne and crew.

:winking:

Now back on topic. I can't see myself voting Labour again until he's gone. The problem is there isn't anyone else for me.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Complete rubbish. No-one does Talking Heads better than David Byrne and crew.

:winking:

Now back on topic. I can't see myself voting Labour again until he's gone. The problem is there isn't anyone else for me.

Now this is interesting. Why wouldn't you vote Labour now Corbyn has been elected leader?

 

[Benfleet A1]

Perhaps they can join the Tories, no doubt where their true political feelings lie.

Just so we are clear, you think Yvette Cooper, Liz Kendall, Chris Leslie, Tristram Hunt, Emma Reynolds and Jamie Reed should join the Conservatives because as they disagree with the new leader of the Labour Party they weren't really Labour anyway, that's what you're saying?

Go back to the cookery and star wars threads and up your post count there.

 

[Pubey]

A lot of decent points in here, IMO:

https://opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/anthony-barnett/corbyns-golden-opportunity-0

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Bloody hell!! They are leaving the front bench quicker than a refugee from Syria.

http://news.sky.com/story/1551400/labour-frontbench-exodus-after-corbyn-win

Also, I found this quote. Food for thought in the sense that will Corbyn change some of his views and principles for the good of the party or demand a mandate that isn't fully supported by the majority and only run for the minority.

Labour’s leadership result is “an act of political stupidity unparalleled since Caligula appointed his horse to the Roman senate,” said Steve Fielding, professor of politics at the University of Nottingham.
“Given his unwillingness to compromise his views with the opinions of millions of the British electorate, Corbyn is more qualified to lead a pressure group than a party that seriously aspires to government,” Fielding said.

I messaged Reed to tell him he is a **** for quiting while the new leader was in the middle of his acceptance speech. Someone who has such a lack of decorum....**** em, good riddance. In terms of membership Labour is the biggest political party in the country and it's getting bigger and the new leader was voted emphatically over all of the membership types and any grandee who can not respect that the membership has spoken I will be happy to see move to one side.
A truly democratic party and a leadership that I think will listen to its membership and be moulded by the people that do the donkey work. A party that has a renewed spirit and a growing amount of people that want to be involved. All those that are too fixed on finding the middle ground rather than harnessing the new found enthusiasm won't be missed. The press will be fixated on people he has dared to hold discussions with and his liberal use of the word 'friend' but it's all media that we need to rally against, time to ignore them and any old school ministers who are sneering at the result of democracy - you aren't needed, you'll only hold us back. Time to move forward.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

That's not that surprising, clearly Corbyn is going to want a reshuffle to reflect the direction he is taking the party. The current people on the front bench are going to know they won't be part of that direction so it's better for them to resign now and make it look like it was their choice than wait for Corbyn to remove them instead.

His acceptance speech was very inclusive. Anyone choosing to go is up to them but didn't sound like he would be doing the pushing.

 

[Benfleet A1]

I messaged Reed to tell him he is a **** for quiting while the new leader was in the middle of his acceptance speech. Someone who has such a lack of decorum....**** em, good riddance. In terms of membership Labour is the biggest political party in the country and it's getting bigger and the new leader was voted emphatically over all of the membership types and any grandee who can not respect that the membership has spoken I will be happy to see move to one side.
A truly democratic party and a leadership that I think will listen to its membership and be moulded by the people that do the donkey work. A party that has a renewed spirit and a growing amount of people that want to be involved. All those that are too fixed on finding the middle ground rather than harnessing the new found enthusiasm won't be missed. The press will be fixated on people he has dared to hold discussions with and his liberal use of the word 'friend' but it's all media that we need to rally against, time to ignore them and any old school ministers who are sneering at the result of democracy - you aren't needed, you'll only hold us back. Time to move forward.

I'll look back at the above tomorrow but after glossing over it quickly, the main point I picked up on was that the membership had spoken and bollocks to anyone in the party who disagrees with that ( as I said, glossing over it quickly, I'm knackered and should really be in bed) Correct me if I'm wrong, but now the party has spoken, shouldn't the message now be addressed to the general public, ie, the voter in the street, rather than, what would seem, even more in-house fighting and dissent. It does sound a little East Germany to me, 'speak against me then you are against me'

Put me right by all means but wait for a reply tomorrow, I'm beat.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I'll look back at the above tomorrow but after glossing over it quickly, the main point I picked up on was that the membership had spoken and bollocks to anyone in the party who disagrees with that ( as I said, glossing over it quickly, I'm knackered and should really be in bed) Correct me if I'm wrong, but now the party has spoken, shouldn't the message now be addressed to the general public, ie, the voter in the street, rather than, what would seem, even more in-house fighting and dissent. It does sound a little East Germany to me, 'speak against me then you are against me'

Put me right by all means but wait for a reply tomorrow, I'm beat.

You rather seem to be ignoring the fact that Corbyn polled 59.5 of the membership vote on the first ballot (three times more than his nearest challenger Andy Burnham).That's more of an endorsement from Labour than Tony Blair got in '94.

I think you'll find that Corbyn's new look PLP will be sending out a message to the public from next week.Opposing Tory trade union legislation and voting against Tory welfare cuts.

These are exactly the sort of things the PLP should be doing in opposition.

The "in-house fighting and dissent" you mention will inevitably come from those on Labour's right, as it does with the Tory right .

Bit difficult for UKIP to mirror this with only one MP ,though they did in a pretty good job in the summer with the fall-out over NF's "resignation."

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

#Corbynforleader

:hilarious::hilarious:

Jez he did.:happy:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Corbyn was an accident,I supect the reason why he is leading is because of people paying three quid to vote ! By many accounts there has been a sudden increase of around 100,000 coughing up their measly amount,sums up Labour in a nutshell.

Actually JC won a majority share of the vote in all sections of the party ie full members,affiliated TU members and "three quid members."

Almost certainly,not in the PLP though.:smiles:

 

[londonblue]

My dad, a lifelong Labour member until he resigned his membership a couple of years ago reckons the MPS will "stage a coup" before the next GA. Personally I doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's right. Especially when the party realise that the only people who will vote for them are the people who voted in the leadership election.

Labour now have a leader that has pretty much zero experience and I fully expect Camerscum to make mince meat out of him. And that's going some because Camerscum is really crap himself.

 

[mrsblue]

Corbyn is the man,aged 66,he will be PM at the ripe old age of 71:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

Brilliant from the loony left.

 

[mrsblue]

The fall out begins.

Burnham has decided to apply for a paper round,Andy said "it will be tough but I think I can do it"

Kendall has decided to become an Avon lady

Cooper wants to turn her house into a bed and breakfast solely for refugees,hubby Ed purred "she is a nutty old bint"

I predict all 3 will after a cooling off period become once again Labour bigwigs ,I mean what else can they do?

 

[RobM]

Corbyn is the man,aged 66,he will be PM at the ripe old age of 71:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

Brilliant from the loony left.

He'll have his finger on the pulse....his own!

 

[Bielzibubz]

Wins 60% of the Labour vote which means absolutely diddly squat in the great scheme of things as he and everyone else knows his, and now presumably the parties, policies make him and the them un electable at the next GE :happy:

Socialism as an electable political ideal is dead and buried and has been for two decades or more. Labour knew it 20 years ago which is why the face of British politics has changed so much and why Labour shifted so much to the right. Bliar knew back then that Labour had to change in order to get elected. Fortunately for the Conservatives they seem to have forgotten that.

The electorate of this country remember only too well the disastrous days when the unions held power over our political system and they won't allow them that power back by voting Corbyn into No10.

The electorate of this country remember only two well the disastrous days of nationalized industries and the wanton waste and mismanagement that came with it.

The UK has changed drastically since the days of Foot and Kinnock and I for one am as pleased as punch that Tom & Jerry (see the irony in that?) are now at the helm of the Labour party. It means it's un electable as a serious political party while they are.............Rejoice my friends, rejoice :happy::clap::happy:

 

[RHB]

It always makes me smile that folk with Conservative tendencies feel the need to bang on triumphantly when changes happen in the Labour Party. It's almost as if they need to be abusive of political individuals to enrich their lives, hey ho. Those with UKIP tendencies just spout 'very funny' stuff. I don't know whether Corbyn will have a successful career as leader of the LP, and it may be that it will all change before the next GE, who can say. Best not to get too excited at this event though as we none of us have any idea what Cameron and Osborne will gift us with before that much longer. But that's for another thread I think.