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Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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callan said:
That would have been a very different Britain, I always think that elections are won and lost on which party offers the most hope....and it would be easy to bash Corbyn at this point...as he appears to only appeal to a small section of society / voters.

Is it possible that the Tories are offering more hope than Labour and thus have a wider appeal?
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No.Next question? :winking.
 
Bielzibubz said:
So he didn't say this then, no? "early evening socialisation benefits men who don't feel the need to be at home looking after their children and it discriminates against women who will want to, obviously, look after the children that they have got"

Oh wait, yes he actually did.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/02/corby...-work-drinks-for-quite-sexist-reason-6105449/

Sorry, call me blinkered n all that but I can't see what's been misreported there.
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yes he did say that, and nothing in there refers to a ban on after works drinks.
 
Pubey said:
yes he did say that, and nothing in there refers to a ban on after works drinks.
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And therefore he's a complete clown for even trying to play the sexist card on this one. Whichever way you want to dress it up its typical JC. Whatever he tries he gets wrong. The Tories must absolutely love him as Labours lewder
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
They have only been doing badly since they started a pointless leadership election, before that by election results were good.

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No they were doing badly before as well....otherwise Miliband would be PM, Scotland would not be run by the SNP and UKIP wouldn't be taking votes off them in Wales....oh and utter failure to convince their voters in the referendum.

Of course if your vision of doing well is all of this then who am I to argue.
 
callan said:
No they were doing badly before as well....otherwise Miliband would be PM, Scotland would not be run by the SNP and UKIP wouldn't be taking votes off them in Wales....oh and utter failure to convince their voters in the referendum.

Of course if your vision of doing well is all of this then who am I to argue.
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I assumed you were referring to the Labour Party under Corbyn as it's a thread about Corbyn, but if you want to go back to the last election and reanalyse that again it may take a while and from a one liner question with a winking emoticon I didn't think you were after a full rework of other threads so in that case I think personally I'd just say 'long story'.
 
callan said:
No they were doing badly before as well....otherwise Miliband would be PM, Scotland would not be run by the SNP and UKIP wouldn't be taking votes off them in Wales....oh and utter failure to convince their voters in the referendum.

Of course if your vision of doing well is all of this then who am I to argue.
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70% of Labour voters voted Remain btw - but I'm sure you know that.
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
70% of Labour voters voted Remain btw - but I'm sure you know that.
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Meaning if I accept your figures (and I have no idea where you got them from) that 30 per cent were unconvinced....more so in the Northern Labour heartlands.

You can spin the numbers anyway you like, but with the exception of a handful of MPs Labour were Remain through and through, and they failed to get the result they wanted.....add this to the other other failures which you haven't contested in my original post.
 
callan said:
Meaning if I accept your figures (and I have no idea where you got them from) that 30 per cent were unconvinced....more so in the Northern Labour heartlands.

You can spin the numbers anyway you like, but with the exception of a handful of MPs Labour were Remain through and through, and they failed to get the result they wanted.....add this to the other other failures which you haven't contested in my original post.
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contested - no, as I said I thought we were discussing the subject in the thread rather than going back to re-discuss the last election or I wouldn't have bothered going through that again.
EU could be dealt with swiftly - on a free vote 30% of Labour voting public not following the main party line does not equate with '....oh and utter failure to convince their voters in the referendum'
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
contested - no, as I said I thought we were discussing the subject in the thread rather than going back to re-discuss the last election or I wouldn't have bothered going through that again.
EU could be dealt with swiftly - on a free vote 30% of Labour voting public not following the main party line does not equate with '....oh and utter failure to convince their voters in the referendum'
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We were discussing my original post.....to remind you... here are the salient points as you clearly didn't read them properly the first time:

The Failure to make any in roads in Scotland.

The Failure to hold UKIP back in Wales.

The failure to convince enough Labour voters to vote to remain (or indeed other voters) n the referenfum.

I did mention the failure of the last GE as its recent, but if you prefer we can change that to Corbyns incompetence in convincing his Mps to back him and the mass resignations from his cabinet.

Or perhaps his failures surrounding anti semitism.


No one other than a completely deluded Labour supporter could consider him or the party a success.
 
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callan said:
We were discussing my original post.....to remind you... here are the salient points as you clearly didn't read them properly the first time:

The Failure to make any in roads in Scotland.

The Failure to hold UKIP back in Wales.

The failure to convince enough Labour voters to vote to remain (or indeed other voters) n the referenfum.

I did mention the failure of the last GE as its recent, but if you prefer we can change that to Corbyns incompetence in convincing his Mps to back him and the mass resignations from his cabinet.

Or perhaps his failures surrounding anti semitism.


No one other than a completely deluded Labour supporter could consider him or the party a success.
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Been done to death and there is plenty to keeps us amused in the here and now and to be honest anyone that thinks that 70% of anything = utter failure, is not going to be convinced by anything I say so I'm happy to just move on.

And if that sounds unreasonable just check my profile as I'm pretty sure I've stated my opion on each of these many times. Today I'm just on here for team news really.
 
Another Surrey Shrimper said:
Been done to death and there is plenty to keeps us amused in the here and now and to be honest anyone that thinks that 70% of anything = utter failure, is not going to be convinced by anything I say so I'm happy to just move on.

And if that sounds unreasonable just check my profile as I'm pretty sure I've stated my opion on each of these many times. Today I'm just on here for team news really.
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I will pass thanks on checking out your profile, I'm not in any rush to read your musings on how wonderful a success the Labour party are under Corbyn.

And I am happy to move on, Especially when you come up with complete nonsense like you have regarding Labours failure to convince enough voters to vote remain, and attempting to portray it as a victory.
 
callan said:
I will pass thanks on checking out your profile, I'm not in any rush to read your musings on how wonderful a success the Labour party are under Corbyn.

And I am happy to move on, Especially when you come up with complete nonsense like you have regarding Labours failure to convince enough voters to vote remain, and attempting to portray it as a victory.
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70%. Seventy percent. 7 out of every 10. 70%. Utter failure!
 
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