Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Does he though? I know he won the leadership contest comfortably, but that was then, and more recently he's made a massive u-turn on his stance regarding the EU and is now receiving a growing vote of no confidence. At what point will the pig-headed old bugger realise that the party is bigger than him, and do the decent thing.

Polls recently indicate that he would win another leadership contest by a bigger margin than last time. His switch to Remain puts him more in line with the membership too. It can be argued its the anti Corbyn MPs that see themselves as bigger than the Party as the membership is the Party and the membership chose Corbyn.

If Corbyn agreed that Labour are more electable without him as leader and was persuaded to step aside then I'd back that, but a coup against the membership's wishes just causes more conflict and problems.

The whole of politics from all sides is all over the place at the present time. Madness and confusion everywhere you look.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Meanwhile.......Chris Eubank has reacted to the news that Britain has voted to leave the EU by now calling himself Chris Bank.

 

[rigsby]

I know a few people who have (stupidly, agreed) regretted voting out as they believed the lie that £350m was going to go to the UK, who didn't even think they leave campaign had a chance of winning.

Probably the sort of people who predicted a remain vote of 70% . I'm sure there was someone on the zone did that. I would call that really stupid

 

[rigsby]

Polls recently indicate that he would win another leadership contest by a bigger margin than last time. His switch to Remain puts him more in line with the membership too. It can be argued its the anti Corbyn MPs that see themselves as bigger than the Party as the membership is the Party and the membership chose Corbyn.

If Corbyn agreed that Labour are more electable without him as leader and was persuaded to step aside then I'd back that, but a coup against the membership's wishes just causes more conflict and problems.

The whole of politics from all sides is all over the place at the present time. Madness and confusion everywhere you look.

Not really, not for the 17 million who have ended the EU. Speaking to some fellow Brexit boys and girls today we have found the reaction hilarious, from the whinging losers. Please don't stop. And please please make sure that nice man called Jeremy stays leader of the Labour party.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Not really, not for the 17 million who have ended the EU. Speaking to some fellow Brexit boys and girls today we have found the reaction hilarious, from the whinging losers. Please don't stop. And please please make sure that nice man called Jeremy stays leader of the Labour party.

If you are happy that there has been no word from the leaders of your gang since their glorious victory other than some backtracking then I'd say the biggest source of madness and confusion is in your head. How can you be pleased with 'Boz and Mike - you won, you've left the EU and now you can reveal the plan......the plan.....boys...the plan? Where'd they go?'

the silence is very scary

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

​Runners and riders please...

Blimey, #1, just over a year; I didn't think it had been that long.

 

[Gremlin]

Chris Bryant resigned now too. So that's what, ten members of the shadow cabinet gone in the last 24 hours?

Bryant's statement ended:

"If you refuse to step aside I fear you will go down in history as the man who broke the Labour Party"

I noticed this from Bryant too and I wonder whether he's deliberately lit a fuse with this suggestion. I just can't see a future for the Labour party as it is today. The combination of the loss of Scotland and weak leadership renders them unelectable today. I don't think that a Blairite breakaway can be ruled out.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

I noticed this from Bryant too and I wonder whether he's deliberately lit a fuse with this suggestion. I just can't see a future for the Labour party as it is today. The combination of the loss of Scotland and weak leadership renders them unelectable today. I don't think that a Blairite breakaway can be ruled out.

He's not wrong is he. Jeremy Corbyn can never win a general election. He can't even win one PMs question time, not one. Cameron toys with him, puts him down, laughs at him and easily deals with any of his weak questions. The Tories have never had it so easy. Milliband was a useless Labour leader, but at least he had a bit of fight and passion in him.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

I noticed this from Bryant too and I wonder whether he's deliberately lit a fuse with this suggestion. I just can't see a future for the Labour party as it is today. The combination of the loss of Scotland and weak leadership renders them unelectable today. I don't think that a Blairite breakaway can be ruled out.

Unelectable apart from big wins in the cities of London, Bristol and Sheffield you mean?


To be fair to Corbyn he seems unruffled and getting on with it by appointing a new shadow cabinet. Showing more leadership than Boris Johnson who for 3 days has sat to one side and watched promises unravel and the pound tumble without saying a word.

 

[Napster]

I suspect that we won't be leaving if what the SNP and others are proposing. But at the moment I'm past careing. Blood sugars are playing up more than the Labour front bench.

I can't see anything happening until 2019 at the earliest even if it does.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Unelectable apart from big wins in the cities of London, Bristol and Sheffield you mean?


To be fair to Corbyn he seems unruffled and getting on with it by appointing a new shadow cabinet. Showing more leadership than Boris Johnson who for 3 days has sat to one side and watched promises unravel and the pound tumble without saying a word.

To be fair to Boris he has been busy and like a normal father has been to his daughter's graduation in St Andrews, Kingdom of Perth; on Friday, which is not a short in/out affair; especially with Ming Campbell being the University Principal.

 

[RHB]

Unelectable apart from big wins in the cities of London, Bristol and Sheffield you mean?


To be fair to Corbyn he seems unruffled and getting on with it by appointing a new shadow cabinet. Showing more leadership than Boris Johnson who for 3 days has sat to one side and watched promises unravel and the pound tumble without saying a word.

Election results are often driven by the personality of the standing candidate. It's not impossible that the winners in Bristol and Sheffield were strong personalities, I know the London one was.

Which brings me to the dilemma that a lot of labourish (rather than the party activist type) voters have. Jeremy Corbyn just doesn't inspire a huge amount confidence as a potential Prime Minister. In fact the very opposite is true for a lot of wavering voters. Myth and media barrages have just added to that view. He is unelectable as PM regardless of what he does. I have been a life long Labour supporter coming from a life long Labour Party members family but Corbyn is probably the worst choice the party has ever made if they are to regain power. I know that he was elected by a landslide vote, and I doubt you will agree with me, but he's just the wrong bloke to take us forward as a nation where more than just the party faithful are involved.

At a time when the Tories are wrecking themselves there is a golden opportunity to gain ground which, sadly, has been well and truly missed.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Unelectable apart from big wins in the cities of London, Bristol and Sheffield you mean?


To be fair to Corbyn he seems unruffled and getting on with it by appointing a new shadow cabinet. Showing more leadership than Boris Johnson who for 3 days has sat to one side and watched promises unravel and the pound tumble without saying a word.

I'd say Labour won the London mayoral vote despite Corbyn rather than because of him. Still, it was on his watch, so it can't be used as a stick with which to beat him.

Elections in Sheffield and Bristol...be still my beating heart! But again - fair play.

For me, the below average results in the local elections were more indicative of where the British public see Jeremy Corbyn.

You think he could feasibly be elected as PM of this country I think he hasn't a cat in hell's chance. I am sure we can agree to disagree.

(PS I'm with you on Boris. He's like a kid who has wet the bed and is now refusing to get of that bed in the hope that it dries and no-one notices the smell. Man's a ****.)

 

[Napster]

30 years ago, Boris won the Oxford Union presidency, supported by one Michael Gove.

Gove got the position two years later.

 

[londonblue]

I know a few people who have (stupidly, agreed) regretted voting out as they believed the lie that £350m was going to go to the UK, who didn't even think they leave campaign had a chance of winning.

Apparently people who a) didn't vote, and b) want to change their vote have been ringing up their councils to see what they can do about it. Idiots. This isn't like a GE when you get to change your mind every 5 years. This is a one off. These people have made their beds, they now have to lie in them.

 

[Napster]

These people have made their beds, they now have to lie in them.

No, they don't. We all do.

 

[londonblue]

No, they don't. We all do.

Agreed, but so do they.

 

[londonblue]

Election results are often driven by the personality of the standing candidate. It's not impossible that the winners in Bristol and Sheffield were strong personalities, I know the London one was.

Which brings me to the dilemma that a lot of labourish (rather than the party activist type) voters have. Jeremy Corbyn just doesn't inspire a huge amount confidence as a potential Prime Minister. In fact the very opposite is true for a lot of wavering voters. Myth and media barrages have just added to that view. He is unelectable as PM regardless of what he does. I have been a life long Labour supporter coming from a life long Labour Party members family but Corbyn is probably the worst choice the party has ever made if they are to regain power. I know that he was elected by a landslide vote, and I doubt you will agree with me, but he's just the wrong bloke to take us forward as a nation where more than just the party faithful are involved.

At a time when the Tories are wrecking themselves there is a golden opportunity to gain ground which, sadly, has been well and truly missed.

Agree wholeheartedly with this.

Camerscum has proved himself to be the ****wit I always said he was, but he has done the honourable thing.
Corduroy has proved himself to be the ****wit I always said he was...

 

[londonblue]

And now Tom Watson has told him to go:

BBC

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

And now Tom Watson has told him to go:

BBC

Not according to the report on this link he hasn't