Pre-Match Thread HMRC v SUFC - FINAL hearing on 1st March. DISMISSED

[danbowen]

Legally, do the fans have a leg to stand on in terms of getting Ron out before the club dies?

No

 

[TJC]

Didn't the judge and HMRC brief say they hadn't seen the document provided by Ron prior to the court appearance? And it turned out docs were submitted day before.

Doubt there was much checking.

It was a late submission but would think it was credible enough in a short space of time for the judge to agree to another adjournment.
Please don't destroy my only hope . Oh and Stans comment tonight fills me with even more hope

 

[Shrimper]

Someone on Facebook is saying Ron has told the Shrimpers Trust he can’t pay. Can anyone from the Trust shoot this down?

Would be surprised if he told someone else. He's keeping it close to his chest for sure

He'll ride in on Feb 28th pretending to be a white knight

 

[stewart]

Where is this statement from Stan a few mentioned here

 

[rootshall rambler]

Under that dreadful “person” ……., things have become so toxic, so hopeless, so embarrassing, so sickening, so fuggin awful, that it surprises me that there is any fan base left at all. Says a lot about SUFC and the quality of their fantastic supporters.

( I obviously don’t include any of that “persons” usual 5 or 6 stooges, plants and fanboys here on the zone, but the rest of you can give yourselves a monster pat on the back)

best fans anywhere I reckon.

 

[stewart]

My feelings on this at present and what Stan has posted somewhere ,Yes i do believe RM is winging it at present in hope of getting a bridging loan , but i also believe in the next few he will come to realise if its not going to happen days ,then he will come to an agreement to sort a deal out with investors to sell the club in a manner that wont effect his own outcome to badly. I also believe SVC will have had a hand in finding these investors and god willing save the club we all love so much. If this does come about i hope also SVC gets to have a bigger say in the running of the club in the future, as im sure he can be a major help help to the investors if they are not to familiar with this club or the running off a football club . Anyway thats my take on this, im now beginning to understand all the negative comments by supporters more ,they are showing their way of the love and care they have for this club in the only way they can . RM do the right thing by the supporters the club and the backroom staff and players, in the end you will also be doing the right thing by your family .

 

[Kat_r]

My feelings on this at present and what Stan has posted somewhere ,Yes i do believe RM is winging it at present in hope of getting a bridging loan , but i also believe in the next few he will come to realise if its not going to happen days ,then he will come to an agreement to sort a deal out with investors to sell the club in a manner that wont effect his own outcome to badly. I also believe SVC will have had a hand in finding these investors and god willing save the club we all love so much. If this does come about i hope also SVC gets to have a bigger say in the running of the club in the future, as im sure he can be a major help help to the investors if they are not to familiar with this club or the running off a football club . Anyway thats my take on this, im now beginning to understand all the negative comments by supporters more ,they are showing their way of the love and care they have for this club in the only way they can . RM do the right thing by the supporters the club and the backroom staff and players, in the end you will also be doing the right thing by your family .

I trust absolutely nobody in this situation

 

[stewart]

I trust absolutely nobody in this situation

That is your perogative Kat-r ,but in SVC i trust, in Kev and co and JS ,TL i do believe we have the makings off a very good backroom team ,all we need is a decent owner andthis wonderful club can rise again, we have to trust somebody without trust there is absolutely no hope and hope is all we have at present im afraid .

 

[Kat_r]

He could lose it if external party agrees to pay off debts at x amount of pence to pound Etc. When in admin everything is for sale.

Yes, agree they are insolvent but they would get away with being that way far longer and he's playing for time.

I hope that is the case re the planning permission that states in fact that development cannot happen without a football club. We will find out I guess.

I really really hope I'm wrong. I did warn all this was coming with Ron many many years ago.

Rm has a few options. Pay up on the way to a massive pay day. Or sell with planning permission attached and receive a very large pay day.

There’s no way the club will collapse with those two tasty offers available to him.

I think he’s a greedy capitalist but guess what? The next owner will be exactly the same so yes be angry at him but don’t for a second think he’s replacement will be any better

 

[rootshall rambler]

Rm has a few options. Pay up on the way to a massive pay day. Or sell with planning permission attached and receive a very large pay day.

There’s no way the club will collapse with those two tasty offers available to him.

I think he’s a greedy capitalist but guess what? The next owner will be exactly the same so yes be angry at him but don’t for a second think he’s replacement will be any better

But at least there is always the very faint possibility that the next owner might just have a tiny bit of interest in seeing the football club thrive and a tiny bit of empathy with the fan base, ….unlike the “toxic one” who has all but destroyed us.

 

[Kat_r]

But at least there is always the very faint possibility that the next owner might just have a tiny bit of interest in seeing the football club thrive and a tiny bit of empathy with the fan base, ….unlike the “toxic one” who has all but destroyed us.

Sorry, I’m just cynical. From what I’ve heard and observed I just don’t believe that Is a possibility. It’s the fans club. Come back to me if the new owner treats it as such

 

[Kat_r]

Sounds like the words of a man in the last chance saloon. Steve Dale insisted all was going to be fine at Bury, until it wasn't...

I will again ask, can the Trust please come forth to outline contingency plans that were alluded to last week? Fans need to know what we can realistically do in the face of non-payment.

i disagree. I believe the loan will come through and he’s laughing all the way to his payday knowing no matter what he does or how staff or treated enough people will pay to watch matches

 

[BoyWonder2]

( I obviously don’t include any of that “persons” usual 5 or 6 stooges, plants and fanboys here on the zone, but the rest of you can give yourselves a monster pat on the back)

deary me, how pathetic.

So those are now stooges, plants or fanboys not people with mental health issues?

I don’t think you’ll find a single person in our entire fan base, not just on SZ which is a small percentage, who is a RM “fanboy” but you keep banging that drum away.

 

[Holy Joe]

He could lose it if external party agrees to pay off debts at x amount of pence to pound Etc. When in admin everything is for sale.

Ron is the major creditor, as such doesn't he have a say on what deal is acceptable to him and I don't think he has to accept the highest offer on the table.

I still think liquidation is quicker than administration. Liquidation you literally have to stop trading immediately

 

[thenobster]

I wonder if he's any properties he could sell?

 

[dannypav]

Under that dreadful “person” ……., things have become so toxic, so hopeless, so embarrassing, so sickening, so fuggin awful, that it surprises me that there is any fan base left at all. Says a lot about SUFC and the quality of their fantastic supporters.

( I obviously don’t include any of that “persons” usual 5 or 6 stooges, plants and fanboys here on the zone, but the rest of you can give yourselves a monster pat on the back)

best fans anywhere I reckon.

Are 'fanboys' the same as 'ladyboys' ?
Never heard that before and don't want to get into another tricky situation like Bangkok 1986.

 

[Shrimper]

I wonder if he's any properties he could sell?

He'd have to make sure he declares everything...

 

[The Big Dady]

Where is this statement from Stan a few mentioned here

Supporters Group News - Supporters Meeting

Morning all, Met Ron this morning in London to go through several items on an agenda that I put to Ron and Tom recently. I have nothing to do with the finances of the club, that's not part of my role or remit whatsoever, my role today was to outline what I feel is important in galvanising...

www.shrimperzone.com

 

[Hadleigh-shrimper]

Supporters Group News - Supporters Meeting

Morning all, Met Ron this morning in London to go through several items on an agenda that I put to Ron and Tom recently. I have nothing to do with the finances of the club, that's not part of my role or remit whatsoever, my role today was to outline what I feel is important in galvanising...

www.shrimperzone.com

 

[Colblue]

These are still historic tax debts that have got to be paid, presumably Ron is not keeping up to date with current tax liabilities either so the HMRC wheel will spin again in a few months regardless of paying this one.
FF needs to be relocated to up Jacks beanstalk as the amount of money being borrowed against it will soon outstrip the costs of building stadium anyway.
What a mess