Pre-Match Thread HMRC v SUFC - FINAL hearing on 1st March. DISMISSED

[amsemp]

Believe FL clubs wouldn't be able to register them

I don’t think that’s right. EFL clubs can register out of registration players outside of transfer windows. If any of our players leave due to breach of contract, they’ll be free agents, so could sign and be registered in the EFL or non-league.

 

[Kenny]

 

[dusterman]

Will someone like Miley leaving change the approach of even the most apathetic supporter?

Surely, surely this is it now. Big action required in thousands?

 

[londonblue]

I did qualify revenue streams it by saying "who ever It may have profited."

Indeed.

 

[Tampa Blue]

How would this London shrimper know anything like this? Friends with one of the ballers ?

.............or relative at the club

 

[tommy tucker]

Lots of 'Martin Out' graffiti around the new training ground and boarding. Some painted over by the builders.

Schools out for half term then .

 

[Hooly]

I don’t think that’s right. EFL clubs can register out of registration players outside of transfer windows. If any of our players leave due to breach of contract, they’ll be free agents, so could sign and be registered in the EFL or non-league.

I would expect that would definitely be the case. This last happened to the extent it is now I think, at the end of the 2009/10 season, when we were relegated to Div 2. I believe the players could have walked any time towards the end of the season as they'd not been paid on time over a number of months as that effectively terminated their contracts.

Officially it was all covered as "mutual agreement" & "balanced against the wage constraints" but the PFA had paid their January wages & there were certainly further delayed payments as the season went on.

At the time the club statement was: "Southend United also confirmed that it will not stand in the way of any of its senior players, several of whom are still on Championship level salaries, who may also want to transfer to an alternative club if appropriate transfer fees can be agreed with any interested parties." As far as I remember we didn't get any transfer fees because the players could walk for nothing.

 

[TrueBlue]

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God bless Spinner!

 

[WestyReturns]

Would like to be a fly on the wall for that... I can imagine they will be less than impressed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625099487474593792

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Last time he did that the players downed tools.

 

[SHRIMPERPETER]

Would Justin Bieber be interested as he's a "fan" ?

 

[Petejames]

Apparently the players are still United ….after Ron talks…..

 

[Mark Corrigan]

Would Justin Bieber be interested as he's a "fan" ?

An avid supporter just like Anna Firth

 

[Magnum PI]

Players united... but the message from Ron is that still no money and not sure when, but continuing to do his best.... I had hoped it might be better news than that.

 

[Smiffy]

Players united... but the message from Ron is that still no money and not sure when, but continuing to do his best.... I had hoped it might be better news than that.

Ouch.

We best prepare for a departure or two then.

Wouldn't blame a single one of them either. Same goes for the office staff.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

Cav didn't have his best game on Saturday either. Stands to reason if he knows he could be gone very soon and who could blame him. Breaks my heart to say that but it's the reality.

We used to play Dagenham in preseason games and were a much bigger club who were visiting a lower league/non league club for fitness, now look at us!

I said this on another thread when Daggers lost Walker that they should be looking at Cardwell. It's now Miley. We cannot complain one bit. They are a better option than us now, end of. They are well run club who have a great reputation in the pyramid. Things we can only dream of.

Like many of my fellow shrimpers, I've run out of things to say about it now. I don't even have it in me to moan about Ron, it's a pointless task. It's just so sad and disheartening all round. All I can do is support the team as much as possible in the remaining fixtures, however long they last for.

Dagenham get 1400 fans every games at Victoria Road, how the hell they can pay their players wages and staffs wages too.

 

[londonshrimper.]

Is the source you are hearing from this tweet or have you had the same information separately?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625117598315687936

I've had a few responses on here and to my Tweet itself asking for the source of my information, including from one chap who claimed the players had been paid when they had not (his source being a steward before the last home league game!)

In fact, I confirmed the players had not been paid - even before the Echo did after the game. I called the signings of GSM, Lomas, Harry Taylor and Blondy before anyone else. I've never once sprouted rubbish. I'm not here to mislead anyone. We all want the same as fans, to have our football club back and an end to the worry surrounding our status as a club. That said, I will not be posting my source.

Dagenham will be testing the water for Miley with a bid in the region of £25,000. Given the worsening financial uncertainty surrounding the club and the fact Ron Martin met with the players today in light of last month's outstanding wages, which most likely will remain to be paid before our D Day at the High Court on 1 March, it will be interesting to see if we can keep hold of one of our standout players this season to a rival when we're looking to cement our place in the playoffs.

I reported previously that we were in for Justham at Dagenham. That ship appears to have sailed given the embargo hanging over us. I imagine it'll be revisited at the end of the season with Arnold out of contract and likely to be moving on. As one fan pointed out on Twitter: "We should’ve been stealing Justham off them and they could take Miley! Honestly as the days go by of this month it just gets worse and worse."

Certainly, if Miley goes, it'll open the floodgates to other players being seriously looked at, with Notts County likely to revisit their earliest interest in our biggest talent, Jack Bridge.

 

[Magnum PI]

He rarely tells the truth though.....which might be good news looking at it another way

 

[Ricey]

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That’s a parody account.

 

[TJC]

Apparently the players are still United ….after Ron talks…..

United in what though?

 

[kentblues]

Players can legally leave for nothing today so this shall be fun

Would be interested to see if this rumour began with a verified source or is just another rumour that's become "fact' through repetition.

Certainly as far as I am aware the norm is two months in line with FIFA rules (certainly at Prem & EFL level?). And then the club has 15 days to remedy the breach.

I look forward to someone posting a link to FA rules that suggest they operate different rules (or maybe I have missed it?)