Breaking News D Day for Blues Stadium

[Cockle43]

The documents make interesting reading and to be perfectly honest had I been a councillor in that meeting today I don't think I could have taken any other decision than to defer the application.

Basically Savills, for SUFC, are arguing that Southend Town Centre retail space is over trading the national average per sq metre by a fair percentage and therefore the impact of additional retail space at the new development would have less impact than assessed previously back in 2009. They assess that the impact on Southend Town Centre would be in the region of 3% therefore the S106 contribution should be reduced accordingly.

GL Hearn, for SBC, argue that they have had very little time to look at the figures as the applicant is exerting pressure on the Council as they want an early resolution, from that you could read that SUFC/Sainsbury are keen to get on with it. They argue that the original figures would still hold water but acknowledge that they are working from old figures whereas Savills appear to have done a bit more homework, they argue that the impact on Southend Town Centre would be in the region of pushing 7%.

I can't see that any planning officer or councillor would be happy making conclusions at this time so basically they've sent the two off to agree their figures and come back in 3 months with something much more concrete.

At the moment Savills are offering £2.25m as opposed to the original £6.6m so obviously there are serious stakes to be played for. I fully expect them to come back to Council with a revised figure as SBC will not want to see a Judicial Review as if they lose they will have to pay all the costs and will rarely go against their officers' recommendation. Would suggest that there's going to be a whole lot of horse-trading going on in the next couple of months...... I hope....

 

[tonie]

the point i am making is ron cant afford to build FF so we dont know who is out there in the world he should seek investers

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

The documents make interesting reading and to be perfectly honest had I been a councillor in that meeting today I don't think I could have taken any other decision than to defer the application.

Basically Savills, for SUFC, are arguing that Southend Town Centre retail space is over trading the national average per sq metre by a fair percentage and therefore the impact of additional retail space at the new development would have less impact than assessed previously back in 2009. They assess that the impact on Southend Town Centre would be in the region of 3% therefore the S106 contribution should be reduced accordingly.

GL Hearn, for SBC, argue that they have had very little time to look at the figures as the applicant is exerting pressure on the Council as they want an early resolution, from that you could read that SUFC/Sainsbury are keen to get on with it. They argue that the original figures would still hold water but acknowledge that they are working from old figures whereas Savills appear to have done a bit more homework, they argue that the impact on Southend Town Centre would be in the region of pushing 7%.

I can't see that any planning officer or councillor would be happy making conclusions at this time so basically they've sent the two off to agree their figures and come back in 3 months with something much more concrete.

At the moment Savills are offering £2.25m as opposed to the original £6.6m so obviously there are serious stakes to be played for. I fully expect them to come back to Council with a revised figure as SBC will not want to see a Judicial Review as if they lose they will have to pay all the costs and will rarely go against their officers' recommendation. Would suggest that there's going to be a whole lot of horse-trading going on in the next couple of months...... I hope....

Thanks for that Cockle. I await the officers view with interest.

 

[mrsblue]

The stadium plans are far fetched for this club and building without the MS is stark raving mad !

There are many billionaires in the world who might see this as a fun project,Casino hotel raking in big dollar whilst the team steamroll through the divisions with massive investment.

Perhaps 22000 seats is not enough in my fantasy..Yeah lets go for 70,000

 

[Rover John]

Southend-on-Sea BC ‏@SouthendBC
He suggests the Council should "call their bluff" and allow the application, but impose a six-month deadline on commencement

Yes please.

 

[southchurch]

The club will not be sold.
To all those who think there is a multi millionaire out there ready to buy SUFC then stop having wet dreams and grow up. We have a chairman who is doing his very best under very difficult circumstances. He will some how get this stadium built , of that I have no doubt.
Thank you Ron for all your hard work. I know it is exhausting but you must carry on for all supporters of this club.

 

[mrsblue]

The club will not be sold.
To all those who think there is a multi millionaire out there ready to buy SUFC then stop having wet dreams and grow up. We have a chairman who is doing his very best under very difficult circumstances. He will some how get this stadium built , of that I have no doubt.
Thank you Ron for all your hard work. I know it is exhausting but you must carry on for all supporters of this club.

Agreed Ron has had only 20 years and we should all be patient !

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

Agreed Ron has had only 20 years and we should all be patient !

it might seem that long but surely it's nearer 13. Vic Jobson died in 1999 I think. When was John Main ousted by Ron on Delancey's orders. That's when Ron M took absolutre control.

 

[tonie]

Agreed Ron has had only 20 years and we should all be patient !

i think RM has done his best but it is to much for him we need 1 OR MORE NEW INVESTORS if not as i said before get ready for groundshare

 

[Csboy]

The club will not be sold.
To all those who think there is a multi millionaire out there ready to buy SUFC then stop having wet dreams and grow up. We have a chairman who is doing his very best under very difficult circumstances. He will some how get this stadium built , of that I have no doubt.
Thank you Ron for all your hard work. I know it is exhausting but you must carry on for all supporters of this club.

Are you Ron Martin's Nephew or another member of his family?Or maybe on his payroll?

 

[LennySUFC]

Surely a billionaire who loves piers would be interested in the club of the worlds largest pleasure pier?

What's Sir Alan Sugar doing these days?

 

[Tampa Blue]

The club will not be sold.
To all those who think there is a multi millionaire out there ready to buy SUFC then stop having wet dreams and grow up. We have a chairman who is doing his very best under very difficult circumstances. He will some how get this stadium built , of that I have no doubt.
Thank you Ron for all your hard work. I know it is exhausting but you must carry on for all supporters of this club.

Can I have some of what you're having?

Remarkably loyal post - an opinion that sadly I can't share.

 

[Spartan]

It wasn't long ago that your new stadium adventure was suppose to be finished roughly the same time as the Amex was.

I still remember that silly countdown counter you had on this forum to get fans really excited.

Time flies eh? I mean this is our second season already at our new home and already we are expanding the capacity to over 30k.

Good luck with yours.

 

[Dick Bate's Protege]

The club will not be sold.
To all those who think there is a multi millionaire out there ready to buy SUFC then stop having wet dreams and grow up. We have a chairman who is doing his very best under very difficult circumstances. He will some how get this stadium built , of that I have no doubt.
Thank you Ron for all your hard work. I know it is exhausting but you must carry on for all supporters of this club.

Haha classic...

 

[Swiss Tony]

The club will not be sold.
To all those who think there is a multi millionaire out there ready to buy SUFC then stop having wet dreams and grow up. We have a chairman who is doing his very best under very difficult circumstances. He will some how get this stadium built , of that I have no doubt.
Thank you Ron for all your hard work. I know it is exhausting but you must carry on for all supporters of this club.

In Ronni we trust.

 

[Ex-Member1]

Sadly I think we are deluding ourselves if we really think this stadium is ever likely to be built. When we have trouble paying staff and fighting embargoes, is it really likely that a new stadium is figuring high on the chairman's shopping list? I think we all need a dose of reality at this Festive time.

 

[fbm]

I must admit to feeling really chuffed when Brighton got that fantastic looking new ground. The Goldstone Ground closed in 1997 and after 2 years sharing with Gillingham, you played at that awful athletics track where the games took place in East Sussex but the away section was so distant it felt like you were watching from Kent.

But after 14 years, Brighton finally got a new home and good luck to them.

Of course, we haven't ground shared or played in an athletics stadium and still have a home. However, when we do get to FF (whenever that is) I hope it is as much of a success as the Amex is.

 

[baldyian]

I understand that people are entitled to express an opinion, but why do they feel that they have the right to demand the club be put up for sale immediately?

Unless I'm mistaken, nobody on this board expressing these views is a major investor in the club, therefore, however much we may feel Ron should do this or that, we are powerless to do anything.

If people think that an arranged anti-Ron protest is the way to go, all that is likely to achieve is to make the players feel isolated and in the middle of a bad situation, even more than they possibly do already!

I think we should just strap in, sit tight and enjoy the ride. [Not sure enjoy is the right word though.] After all this is what supporting the Blues is all about!

 

[Medway Blue]

Ron's delusion needs to stop now. This is not going to happen. If he is unable to complete the project, he needs to be a man and admit it and return to running the club out of RH or hand over to somebody who can afford to complete the project. I know he badly needs it to come off for himself but the longer it gets delayed, the longer SUFC have to go not paying wages and bills on time, and the longer SUFC has to go being close to the edge. It's not just himself who could lose out of this, it's a whole community who could lose its football club and 5,000 fans who could lose something very dear to them. The more people he hacks off and the more people he loans money from and doesn't pay them back, the more options he's going to run out of when he needs cash to cover his losses. Just give it up already.

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[Jam_Man]

Problem is James his companies are so far in debt is there a realistic way of him getting out now ?

You have to wonder how much profit is to be made and whether that will clear the debts as it is.