Brown Out Protest 17th September

[rigsby]

Precisely. If you look at the Lyon model, the Director of Football is hired by the chairman/chief executive as far more of a long-term appointment than any manager/head coach, and is completely independent. This allows the club to adopt and follow a transfer policy that prevents them wasting money on players only ever desired by the manager/head coach, and any bias towards nationalities/agents/ages etc.

If you think how much resource we've wasted in the last decade - and we've been relatively lucky with just the three managerial appointments - but each of those managers has brought in their own players, and Brown in particular has been a mess in the market. The squad Brown has assembled also has very little certainty over it, players are old and contracts winding down. If Brown leaves at the /before the end of the season, we will again be tasked with a complete restructure.

Having a wholly independent DoF who solely acts on the good of the club would prevent that.

And, as you say, it would appear Horton's not so much a DoF as he is Brown's pal who he trusts for a second opinion, gets paid for it, and will be off as soon as Brown is.

He got us promoted and has spent £25,000 in three years. That makes him financially one of the best managers we have ever had.

By the way why don't you compare us to Lincoln rather Lyon as were are much closer, financially, as a club.

We have 2 year contracts because we are still trying to survive. Not because the manager plans it that way.

 

[Gt Yarmouth Shrimper]

There's a far bigger issue than the football im afraid. Its the charlatan of a chairman. If there are any protests to be had it should be aimed at him.
We have no long term 'success' however that is gauged with him at the helm. If there is one club that would thrive and prosper with that addition of a new stadium coupled with the absolute need for o e then its our beloved club. This man can not sell a plot of valuable land....design a building then build it on another plot of land?????? He's supposdd to be a property developer. **** the football its what is going on elsewhere that bothers me.

I disagree with you on that. Whatever you think of RM and his plans for FF, he has given his managers the finances needed to support them in their quest to move us forward. In my opinion, any fault at the moment rests with the manager.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Lenny is being crippled by having to cover any of the defence who go missing and playing with fellow midfielders who are so lightweight it's untrue.

 

[Bobby dazzler]

I will probably be slaughtered for this but I do not think now is the time to let Brown go.
Injuries have not helped and our recent record is very poor.
It was not too long ago we were holding our own in the division and I am not of the opinion that we are far away from that.
With Ferdinand now here I believe we are a midfield enforcer away from a half decent team. Leonard cannot cover everything and will flourish with a ball winner/enforcer alongside him.
We are lightweight on the wings but they may excel with a central pairing who can compete.
I personally do not like the slow and often frustrating side ways build up we witness but I fear for what we could get instead. The grass is not always greener.

 

[flangejackrabbit]

Brown nicked a promotion, negative and boring it was sheer togetherness of that squad that stumbled through the play offs. With the calibre of squad and financial support he was given we should have arguably won that league.

Why?IIRC there were at least 6 or 7 sides in L2 with bigger playing budgets.

 

[flangejackrabbit]

Lenny is being crippled by having to cover any of the defence who go missing and playing with fellow midfielders who are so lightweight it's untrue.

I don't personally think Lenny is as creative a midfielder as people think. Certainly he's rarely shown the vision to pick defence-splitting through balls and while I really rate him, I feel he works best as the versatile box-to-box player in a midfield 3 with a Wordsworth like player alongside and a Deegan support behind. But then if we do that we can't play two up top like everyone wants. And, we don't have a Deegan at present.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

He got us promoted and has spent £25,000 in three years. That makes him financially one of the best managers we have ever had.

By the way why don't you compare us to Lincoln rather Lyon as were are much closer, financially, as a club.

We have 2 year contracts because we are still trying to survive. Not because the manager plans it that way.

£25,000 in transfer fees.

And how much in wages on right-backs this season?

 

[kentblues]

I don't personally think Lenny is as creative a midfielder as people think. Certainly he's rarely shown the vision to pick defence-splitting through balls and while I really rate him, I feel he works best as the versatile box-to-box player in a midfield 3 with a Wordsworth like player alongside and a Deegan support behind. But then if we do that we can't play two up top like everyone wants. And, we don't have a Deegan at present.

The creation I think comes when he runs at teams and into the box- not defence splitting passes. We don't see much of this because he is so good also at getting back to cover and digging us out at the back. If we had Tims back I think we would see more of him offensively.

 

[EastStandBlue]

He got us promoted and has spent £25,000 in three years. That makes him financially one of the best managers we have ever had.

By the way why don't you compare us to Lincoln rather Lyon as were are much closer, financially, as a club.

We have 2 year contracts because we are still trying to survive. Not because the manager plans it that way.

You're not just sacrificing transfer fees (although Brown's proven himself brilliantly competent in flushing that money down the drain in binning Bolger post-haste) with a poor/non-existent transfer policy. Think about the wages that are spent on the number of strikers, full-backs and central midfielders we've gone through. Think about how woefully unbalanced the squad has appeared, and not just in their respective units, but as an entire team.

We can sign Ferdinand at the back and have a front three of Cox, Ranger and Simpson, but unless the midfield is balanced and cohesive we won't create and we will concede. As YB alludes to above, we've so many right-backs in the squad at the moment we're playing one of them across the midfield.

 

[OldBlueLady]

We can sign Ferdinand at the back and have a front three of Cox, Ranger and Simpson, but unless the midfield is balanced and cohesive we won't create and we will concede. As YB alludes to above, we've so many right-backs in the squad at the moment we're playing one of them across the midfield.

And people have been advocating replacing him with another of them (Demetriou)! We have a perfectly good right winger in McGlashan, why isn't he starting? It's a great theory to have him as an impact sub, but I'd rather we made the impact from the start, personally!

 

[rigsby]

You're not just sacrificing transfer fees (although Brown's proven himself brilliantly competent in flushing that money down the drain in binning Bolger post-haste) with a poor/non-existent transfer policy. Think about the wages that are spent on the number of strikers, full-backs and central midfielders we've gone through. Think about how woefully unbalanced the squad has appeared, and not just in their respective units, but as an entire team.

We can sign Ferdinand at the back and have a front three of Cox, Ranger and Simpson, but unless the midfield is balanced and cohesive we won't create and we will concede. As YB alludes to above, we've so many right-backs in the squad at the moment we're playing one of them across the midfield.

Would that be the one that has gained us £2m this summer whilst spending zero. Who do you think decides that policy.

Bolger was one of the main reasons we ended up with a Wembley win. So his fee of £25,000 more than paid for itself. His two year deal was up so he could leave on a free.

 

[mfurok]

Would that be the one that has gained us £2m this summer whilst spending zero. Who do you think decides that policy.

Bolger was one of the main reasons we ended up with a Wembley win. So his fee of £25,000 more than paid for itself. His two year deal was up so he could leave on a free.

Bentley and Payne - exactly when did Brown sign them?

Well done Ricky Duncan.

 

[amsemp]

Would that be the one that has gained us £2m this summer whilst spending zero. Who do you think decides that policy.

Bolger was one of the main reasons we ended up with a Wembley win. So his fee of £25,000 more than paid for itself. His two year deal was up so he could leave on a free.

I know you support and defend Brown, but I can't agree with that.

Bentley and Payne were always great prospects that were here a long time before Brown was. They were youth products and whilst yes, he did well developing them, you can't incorporate them into his 'transfer policy'.

Tilson paid £40k for Eastwood and sold him for £1.5m. £175k for Bailey and sold him for £750k. Hooper for free, sold him for £175k plus substantial add ons. I know he also signed his fair share of duds, but those are examples of a decent transfer policy. I can't think of one of Brown's signings that we've sold for profit.

 

[BrettieAngell]

Would that be the one that has gained us £2m this summer whilst spending zero. Who do you think decides that policy.

Bolger was one of the main reasons we ended up with a Wembley win. So his fee of £25,000 more than paid for itself. His two year deal was up so he could leave on a free.

Where are you getting this figure of £2 million from?

 

[Kevin Hogg]

I'm glad I wasn't in the east near Brown today. People arguing in the West after the second goal. Brown lovers v Brown haters.

I've always dislike Brown. Can't wait for us to get rid and bring in a tactically minded manager.

Please Ron pull the plug asap.

I think PB needs to pull his finger out pronto!
BUT...as quoted above, there are people who have always had a"dislike" of a manager who has increased our league standing every season he has been here and managed us to arguably the greatest day in our history.,
Yes PB is running out of Brownie Points but this post tells the truth - some dislike him on a personal basis.

 

[David Icke]

I think PB needs to pull his finger out pronto!
BUT...as quoted above, there are people who have always had a"dislike" of a manager who has increased our league standing every season he has been here and managed us to arguably the greatest day in our history.,
Yes PB is running out of Brownie Points but this post tells the truth - some dislike him on a personal basis.

Totally agree with you KH.
I would now give him ten league games in, then reassess.

 

[EastStandBlue]

Would that be the one that has gained us £2m this summer whilst spending zero. Who do you think decides that policy.

Probably the man who signed Bentley and Payne as young teenagers and left them gift wrapped on Sturrock/Brown's lap(s). That's not so much a transfer policy as it is one of youth development.

And anyway, if you believe Payne's camp if Brown et al had their act together, he might still be here.

 

[Shrimper]

Where are you getting this figure of £2 million from?

I think he is including Bentley and Payne but would have to include Hayden in there at least.

But that is besides the point, to call them success for Brown is a bit much especially as Hayden actually left the club years ago.

 

[Medway Blue]

Would that be the one that has gained us £2m this summer whilst spending zero. Who do you think decides that policy.

Bolger was one of the main reasons we ended up with a Wembley win. So his fee of £25,000 more than paid for itself. His two year deal was up so he could leave on a free.

It's like the man himself has brainwashed you!


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[Napster]

Pfft if transfer policy dictated managerial genius, Colin Murphy would have been given the realm of Southend.

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