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Post-Match Thread and Ratings Altrincham 2-0 Southend United

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Swerve said:
When did we last score from a corner?
Forwards no service
Midfield won’t shoot
Centre backs don’t score from set plays.
John Still needs to go his imports have made us worse .
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John still past it. We need to move with the times and recruit fresh younger recruitment team. Still was bit of maverick when it came to signing non league gems but those days are gone and have been for 15 plus years.
 
I certainly agree with Kev that every week someone in a team will not play as well. Anyone on here who has played regularly at any level will know they had their off days, and things just didnt go there way, especially with a focus on keepers and errors
However I dont think you can het away with saying that loss was nothing about tactics. It was tactical to not start with the consistent Morton and Coker. Its tactical in regards to formation and making changes if teams are running through your midfield Its tactical , the issue of subs and when to make them is tactical
It wont continue to endear fans to try to suggest its nothing about tactics and effectively nothing to do with you. However I think he was trying at last to comment very broadly on the overall performance ,and seemingly out loud wondering whether certain players should remain with a Southend shirt

Whats happened to Noor? Wheres hit bite, energy ,. skill, tactical nouse , drive and influence gone. He looks like a downhearted soul
 
After starting brightly with our usual passing side to side style as we plodded forward probing for an opening, we get carved open by Altrincham first attack. They ran at us in numbers and at pace as we stood like statues with feeble attempts to tackle. The story of the first half encapsulated in a couple of sentences. They did it again just after Bim had hit the bar, our one bright spark. We were carved open again and Jeacock let what looked from our end a tamish shot straight at him squirm under his body and we were done. Second half Altrincham retreated knowing that they could score again on the counter if needed. We just carried on as usual, cross after cross flew across the other side of the pitch. Where was the shooting from Charlton where we scored from two deflections. No just carried on passing side to side and then a dreadful cross.

Jeacock 4
Taylor 5
Crowther 4
Ralph 4.5
GSM 4.5
Moncur 4
Miley 4.5
Husin 3.5
Bridge 3.5
Pepple 6 MOTM
Walker 4

Bonne 4
Morton 5
KAF 4.5
Wood 4.5

Concerning performance in many ways, no real fight, no real hope or belief we would get back in it. We lack physicality and pace, most teams in this division have one of them at least. Oh for the days of Powell and Fonguck, never thought I would say that, at least Powell had pace and Fonguck had trickery and linked so well with Bridge. It gets no better with the league leaders at the Hall next week, they must be licking their lips at our woeful recent home record. UTB
 
A frustrating, flat performance. I thought we started quite promisingly and were causing them problems when we pressed, particularly their young keeper who didn't look comfortable with the ball at his feet at all, but then they score with pretty much the first attack and we just never looked like coming back after that.

Not sure what the possession stats were but felt like we had the majority of it, but we just had no cutting edge in the final third. When the attacks broke down we weren't winning second balls and then Altrincham hit us on the counter. It was a game where we missed Cardwell's presence in the box as Gus did whip a few good crosses into the box (as well as a lot of bad ones) and we had plenty of free kicks and corners too. Pepple was probably MoTM and our biggest threat but he's not the goalscorer that Cardwell is. The subs were too late, Husin was awful and should've come off at half-time. That said, I'm not sure Bonne touched the ball when he came on...

As others have alluded to, we don't seem to have any distinct qualities at the moment - pace, height, set-piece threat, anything. We play decent football but that's not enough. Credit to Altrincham, they defended their box well and exposed us on the break. Wouldn't be surprised if they're in the play-off mix in May. We, on the other hand, have some tough games coming up and could be looking over our shoulder soon.

Finally, a word of credit for the referee. We like to moan when they're bad (which they often are at this level) but I thought yesterday's ref got pretty much every decision right. Let the game flow, played a few very good advantages and rightly booked Linney for diving.
 
Looking at the brief TV minutes we had a few moments and Bim was unlucky; when did we last hit the woodwork and deflect in?
Both goals seemed to have a few defensive and GK lapses; and in both our wing backs are caught out of defensive positions.
 
Cricko said:
We actually played much better in the second half but it was to little to late as we just cannot score goals. If the Alti commentary can spot our floors with us, how come Kev cannot? We had a lot of the ball with the outcome of it being Zero.

Something has to change, we cannot go week after week losing games and offering very little, it is one of two reasons IMO , either the players are not good enough or the management are lacking in motivating these players and their ways of setting us up and playing are just wrong and the end product of this is we are heading down the league again. Kev has a full squad now so the excuses are running out.

Personally i think it is both, some very average players matched with some very average management.

Over to you guys.
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Well, can I have my tenner back then re Kev's montage, cause it looks like you want him to go before he gets it

It seems to me that you, and many others, forget what this 'average' management team have had to put up with to keep this team in the National League in the first place!

Gee, should you be the person that posts first after, yes, another frustrating defeat.

Remember, we can't put staff members on ignore, but I will certainly leave this site for a while, to keep my sanity!

Football teams lose games, and there's nothing 'average' about what this club had to put up with even after Martin's departure.

I will support Southend United, Kevin Maher, his coaching staff, and the new owners, through this 'tough' spell, of two league defeats on the trot, one as we know now, might not have happened if we'd kept 11 players on the pitch!

I wish we'd win the next 10 games and play flowing attractive footy, but sometimes you have to play the cards you're given.

There are still excellent footballers in our team at this level, all determined to do the best they can, and I really hope they can turn this round and get the chance to stop some of the nonsense thats sadly allowed on social media these days.
 
Maroon Blue said:
After starting brightly with our usual passing side to side style as we plodded forward probing for an opening, we get carved open by Altrincham first attack. They ran at us in numbers and at pace as we stood like statues with feeble attempts to tackle. The story of the first half encapsulated in a couple of sentences. They did it again just after Bim had hit the bar, our one bright spark. We were carved open again and Jeacock let what looked from our end a tamish shot straight at him squirm under his body and we were done. Second half Altrincham retreated knowing that they could score again on the counter if needed. We just carried on as usual, cross after cross flew across the other side of the pitch. Where was the shooting from Charlton where we scored from two deflections. No just carried on passing side to side and then a dreadful cross.

Jeacock 4
Taylor 5
Crowther 4
Ralph 4.5
GSM 4.5
Moncur 4
Miley 4.5
Husin 3.5
Bridge 3.5
Pepple 6 MOTM
Walker 4

Bonne 4
Morton 5
KAF 4.5
Wood 4.5

Concerning performance in many ways, no real fight, no real hope or belief we would get back in it. We lack physicality and pace, most teams in this division have one of them at least. Oh for the days of Powell and Fonguck, never thought I would say that, at least Powell had pace and Fonguck had trickery and linked so well with Bridge. It gets no better with the league leaders at the Hall next week, they must be licking their lips at our woeful recent home record. UTB
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It's come to something when the loss (uuh, release...) of Powell and Fonguck is lamented.
If the latter had 'trickery' then I'm the second coming of Johann Cruyff!
Wes has made 9 Ebbsfleet starts out of 18 games - and they're rock bottom!
You would have thought a club in dire need would have utilised some of that trickery!
 
TSG said:
Well, can I have my tenner back then re Kev's montage, cause it looks like you want him to go before he gets it

It seems to me that you, and many others, forget what this 'average' management team have had to put up with to keep this team in the National League in the first place!

Gee, should you be the person that posts first after, yes, another frustrating defeat.

Remember, we can't put staff members on ignore, but I will certainly leave this site for a while, to keep my sanity!

Football teams lose games, and there's nothing 'average' about what this club had to put up with even after Martin's departure.

I will support Southend United, Kevin Maher, his coaching staff, and the new owners, through this 'tough' spell, of two league defeats on the trot, one as we know now, might not have happened if we'd kept 11 players on the pitch!

I wish we'd win the next 10 games and play flowing attractive footy, but sometimes you have to play the cards you're given.

There are still excellent footballers in our team at this level, all determined to do the best they can, and I really hope they can turn this round and get the chance to stop some of the nonsense thats sadly allowed on social media these days.
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I certainly agree we've gone through a terrible management ordeal for many years and it's only just ended.. reading these comments will not give the team any confidence..
 
It's sad you lose a few games and this is what football's like.. To me this was to be expected.. Kevin Maher has been a part of the team and understands what's going on, with player embargo, points deduction etc etc.. why do people think a new manager would instantaneously make us win more games? Thanks for the reply 😊 💙
 
TSG said:
Well, can I have my tenner back then re Kev's montage, cause it looks like you want him to go before he gets it

It seems to me that you, and many others, forget what this 'average' management team have had to put up with to keep this team in the National League in the first place!

Gee, should you be the person that posts first after, yes, another frustrating defeat.

Remember, we can't put staff members on ignore, but I will certainly leave this site for a while, to keep my sanity!

Football teams lose games, and there's nothing 'average' about what this club had to put up with even after Martin's departure.

I will support Southend United, Kevin Maher, his coaching staff, and the new owners, through this 'tough' spell, of two league defeats on the trot, one as we know now, might not have happened if we'd kept 11 players on the pitch!

I wish we'd win the next 10 games and play flowing attractive footy, but sometimes you have to play the cards you're given.

There are still excellent footballers in our team at this level, all determined to do the best they can, and I really hope they can turn this round and get the chance to stop some of the nonsense thats sadly allowed on social media these days.
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Wow, so i cannot have an opinion? (BTW i normally put the Post Match Thread up) .Something does have to change whether it is the way we play or the management have to bring in new faces if the players are not up to it anymore. I havent called for their heads and putting me on ignore seems a bit rash for only saying how i feel.

If things don't change and you can surely see that we will be heading into serious trouble, it's simple , we have to start scoring more and winning more games. We are just above the relegation places and even though i don't think we will go down, anything is possible.

I support the management and team as much as you, do i like the way we play atm, nope, not at all. Do i like losing games, again nope. Hopefully as you say we go on a 10 game unbeaten run but i have serious doubts that will happen unless something changes.
 
I would hope everyone accepts we are going to lose games from time to time. In the last couple of seasons under Kev we have a spells with no wins and the reactions we are seeing now from some fans, me included, weren't as they are now.

So what's the difference?

Last couple of seasons when we lost I certainly came away thinking of a couple of times, at least, per game, where if that shot hadn't been blocked, how did their keeper get to that? What a good chance that was, if only it had gone in.

Even when we went down by 3 last season at Chesterfield, again conceding an early goal, we kept plugging away, offered a threat, had their defence on their toes at times and had their fans complimenting the football we were playing post match, both walking back to the car and in the pub we were staying in post match.

Where was that yesterday? 'Cos it wasn't in Altrincham

The atmosphere compared to previous away games came over as flat as a pancake both on the stream and in Pip's Vlog.

There is something definitely lacking at the moment.

I'm fully prepared to give Kev more time, with the proviso that if there is no change in playing personnel, results and an upward move to a more secure position in the table, mid table will do this season, so we can have a proper go next time around, if that is not apparent, then there needs to be a change in management.
 
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