A Big Thank You From The Trust

[Beaver]

Quote[/b] (Its grim up north! @ April 12 2005,18:19)]You tell 'em Beaver!

 

[The Late One]

I see all the "children" have gone back to work today

 

[Guest]

Quote[/b] (Bob Cratchitt @ April 12 2005,16:46)]

Quote[/b] (Beaver @ April 12 2005,14:13)]Anyway if it makes all you happy I have edited the post, and will ensure in future that any Trust Posts are straight to the point, boring & mundane, therefore that should please everyone.

Nobody said that you cannot have a laugh but when reading posts on here and the yahoo list, it appears that some senior members of the trust are taking great pleasure in the fact the trains got screwed up but the coaches did not.

Is this because you were excluded from being involved this year with the trains?

Do you honestly think that if you had organised the trains they would have run smoother??

Should we not be ploughing our money into the club to help it progress??

How perverse that Bob Cratchitt defends the what some might describe as Scrooge-like greed of the club in respect of the trains. High prices, no child reductions, cheap rolling stock, cheap routes (allegedly), poor (aka cheap) stewarding.

Trains cotained a combination of loyal fans who deserved better and potential new ones who may not have been impressed.

Anyway that's done now. Learn from it and move on.

Friday is rather more important right now.

 

[The Late One]

Quote[/b] (Bob Cratchitt @ April 12 2005,13:58)]Meaning that as usual there seems to be some point scoring occuring. i.e. Look at us, are we not great for getting all those people there and you should have chosen the trust over the club.

The Trust were not gloating over the fact that the coaches got to Cardiff and back without any problems, it is just nice to thank the people who helped out on the day. Some people on here are so touchy.

I would not take the mickey out of the train journey, however the coach trip to Macclesfield next Tuesday will be going via Southampton, Norwich, Inverness, Belfast and return via John O'Groats, Plymouth and Anglesey.

Please note, I was only joking about John O'Groats

 

[Beaver]

Quote[/b] (The Late One @ April 12 2005,21:00)]

Quote[/b] (Bob Cratchitt @ April 12 2005,13:58)]Meaning that as usual there seems to be some point scoring occuring. i.e. Look at us, are we not great for getting all those people there and you should have chosen the trust over the club.

The Trust were not gloating over the fact that the coaches got to Cardiff and back without any problems, it is just nice to thank the people who helped out on the day. Some people on here are so touchy.

I would not take the mickey out of the train journey, however the coach trip to Macclesfield next Tuesday will be going via Southampton, Norwich, Inverness, Belfast and return via John O'Groats, Plymouth and Anglesey.

Please note, I was only joking about John O'Groats

What no London Pick Up

 

[The Late One]

Sorry, forgot all the City Shrimpers, must be 100's of them

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 12 2005,20:22)]How perverse that Bob Cratchitt defends the what some might describe as Scrooge-like greed of the club in respect of the trains. High prices, no child reductions, cheap rolling stock, cheap routes (allegedly), poor (aka cheap) stewarding.

Not knowing the full facts I cannot decide who is to blame for this, it could be the club or it could be the charter company that organised the rolling stock and the journey to and fro Cardiff. I guess I will never know so I will not blame anyone but put it to the club that in future assurances about standard of rolling stock should be part of the contract with the charter company.

 

[Shrimp in a Kilt]

Quote[/b] (The Late One @ April 12 2005,21:00)]however the coach trip to Macclesfield next Tuesday will be going via Southampton, Norwich, Inverness, Belfast and return via John O'Groats, Plymouth and Anglesey.  

 

 

 

Please note, I was only joking about John O'Groats  

Damn! You had my hopes up there!

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Quote[/b] (The Late One @ April 12 2005,21:00)]Some people on here are so touchy.

Not really touchy just trying to fathom out why certain individuals post what they do.

Maybe I am wrong in my assumptions that at times it seems the trust is always trying to point score over the club, but i suppose i will let the majority of the fans decide.

 

[TrueBlue]

Quote[/b] ]Maybe I am wrong in my assumptions that at times it seems the trust is always trying to point score over the club, but i suppose i will let the majority of the fans decide.

I get the same feeling!

 

[Shrimp in a Kilt]

1. The trust was set up because many fans were very concerned that the Club wouldn't exist in the very near future.

2. Those who got involved and gave of their time and talents tended to be those who loved the club, and didn't trust the management thereof.

3. RM has turned out not to be the demon he was feared to be, and indeed seems to have had a "Road to Damascus" experience - but look at Wrexham. How wise is it to ever completely trust a property developer?

If the trust seems a little cynical, even picky, when it comes to the club, can we realy be suprised? And indeed, isn't it healthy?

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Quote[/b] (Shrimp in a Kilt @ April 13 2005,00:46)]If the trust seems a little cynical, even picky, when it comes to the club, can we realy be suprised? And indeed, isn't it healthy?

In the right way it can be healthy but it can also be an unnecessary obstacle.

 

[Beaver]

Quote[/b] (Bob Cratchitt @ April 13 2005,00:30)]

Quote[/b] (The Late One @ April 12 2005,21:00)]Some people on here are so touchy.

Not really touchy just trying to fathom out why certain individuals post what they do.

Maybe I am wrong in my assumptions that at times it seems the trust is always trying to point score over the club, but i suppose i will let the majority of the fans decide.

You lot really don't get it do you

However it does appear that if you are not in a cetain SZ clique of posters anything you say or do is wrong

 

[Beaver]

Quote[/b] (TrueBlue @ April 13 2005,00:40)]

Quote[/b] ]Maybe I am wrong in my assumptions that at times it seems the trust is always trying to point score over the club, but i suppose i will let the majority of the fans decide.

I get the same feeling!

Oh & of course Scott you never post anything contentious about the club do you

As I said earlier we were having a laugh

. you know, having a bit of fun at someone elses expense, like most you you lot do on here every day. What is so wrong in that.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Beaver @ April 13 2005,07:47)]

Quote[/b] (Bob Cratchitt @ April 13 2005,00:30)]

Quote[/b] (The Late One @ April 12 2005,21:00)]Some people on here are so touchy.

Not really touchy just trying to fathom out why certain individuals post what they do.

Maybe I am wrong in my assumptions that at times it seems the trust is always trying to point score over the club, but i suppose i will let the majority of the fans decide.

You lot really don't get it do you

However it does appear that if you are not in a cetain SZ clique of posters anything you say or do is wrong

Thing is, Paul, are these dissenters members of the Trust? And if they are, why suddenly attack an organisation they belong to and contribute to?! Is it jealously or envy?

One thing's for sure, with reference to BC's comment "just trying to fathom out why certain individuals post what they do", I think that certainly applies to the little SZFC clique that's been growing over the past six or seven months. Pots, kettles, tins of black paint ...

For what it's worth, I think the Trust did a damn fine job and if I was still in control of SZ I would have said so on the front page AND questioned the club's policy with the trains. That's what we were all about once. Now it seems to be growing into an old boy's network ...

WS

 

[The Artful Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Xàbia Shrimper @ April 13 2005,07:49)]For what it's worth, I think the Trust did a damn fine job and if I was still in control of SZ I would have said so on the front page AND questioned the club's policy with the trains. That's what we were all about once. Now it seems to be growing into an old boy's network ...

WS

....I can see the Spanish Shrimpers Site being a very interesting visit when it gets going.

 

[Firestorm]

Well considering the trust were told not to do shirts and then the club made a bit of a meal providing the ones required I am a little surprised they havn't made a few more comments

The trust has to put up with a lot of criticism from the club as well as being completely ignored on a number of issues so it does work both ways....

 

[The Flying Scotsman]

1. The Trust did a good job running the coaches

2. The Trains were not run as smoothly as they might have done, however no-one was forced to use them.

3. The trust should bring up the issue of train problems and stock in the clubshop with the club as it is a good middle man between fans and club.

4. Perhaps, if the dig had been made by someone else it would have been treated as a joke, as opposed to someone with an agenda against the club.

However, how can it be for the good of both club and trust when they both insist upon digging at each other - Quite frankly it just makes them both appear foolish. The trust want a seat on the board - If i was on the board would i want someone to come on board who appears to have an agenda with that very board!! I think not.

PS  - Mike, are you trying to tell me that there was never a "Spread Eagle clique" when you were over here  

 

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (The Flying Scotsman @ April 13 2005,09:30)]1. The Trust did a good job running the coaches

2. The Trains were not run as smoothly as they might have done, however no-one was forced to use them.

3. The trust should bring up the issue of train problems and stock in the clubshop with the club as it is a good middle man between fans and club.

4. Perhaps, if the dig had been made by someone else it would have been treated as a joke, as opposed to someone with an agenda against the club.

However, how can it be for the good of both club and trust when they both insist upon digging at each other - Quite frankly it just makes them both appear foolish. The trust want a seat on the board - If i was on the board would i want someone to come on board who appears to have an agenda with that very board!! I think not.

PS  - Mike, are you trying to tell me that there was never a "Spread Eagle clique" when you were over here  

1. Agreed, and better than last year
2. Agreed
3. These should be in the latest liasion minutes available on the trust website www.shrimperstrust.co.uk
4. I don't believe Paul has an agenda against the club at all.

The issue about seats on boards is a different thing altogether. I would suspect that if the club entertained the possibility of it happening it would not necessarily be a committee member but someone elected by the members at large by an electoral vote.

 

[Guest]

Quote[/b] (The Flying Scotsman @ April 13 2005,09:30)]2. The Trains were not run as smoothly as they might have done, however no-one was forced to use them.

What a fatuous comment.

They were plugged by RM as "the way to travel" because they "go straight there". The punters would have expected the club to have exercised some sort of duty of care other than just counting the money.

Seems strange to me that the situation seems clearer from Spain than it does from here.