Up in front of the FA again

[SUFCNATHAN96]

You get fined for Looking out for one off your players now then. Should of just gave the free kick and nothing else would off happened.

 

[ozzy-shrimper]

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[sufc_tom]

Sorry I meant Fletcher (the number 4)for Plymouth.:blush:
Timlin did show admirable restraint but there was no need for any other players to get involved.

So your work colleague/mate is been throttled, you're just going to stand there and watch? No, you will more than likely go in to break it up and help him.

 

[sufcnum1]

Spot on take the situation off the pitch the same thing would happen if mate/family member had a hand round their throat ur not gonna watch r u, they spend more time with each other than their families like a huge amount of working ppl

 

[GNH]

The thing i can't understand is how can we be charged with failing to control our players when the ref didn't booked any SUFC player after the incident.

This surely means the ref deemed there to be no wrong behaviour happening or he would have booked/sent off someone?

 

[bazzashrimper]

We've only been charged at the moment. Let's see how it pans out

 

[Mick]

The thing i can't understand is how can we be charged with failing to control our players when the ref didn't booked any SUFC player after the incident.

This surely means the ref deemed there to be no wrong behaviour happening or he would have booked/sent off someone?

I thought Grant was cautioned after the melee ?

Since when has what a referee has or has not done been a definitive proof of fact ?

 

[jamesmut2000]

I thought Grant was cautioned after the melee ?

Since when has what a referee has or has not done been a definitive proof of fact ?

Grant was cautioned for the foul he committed just as the incident kicked off behind him.

 

[ooh-andy-ansah]

We've only been charged at the moment. Let's see how it pans out

Let's hope we don't bend over and take this one, we have to defend it, it's ridiculous this time.

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

Another sad sign of the game of football today. Killing all the passion and emotion out of the game, no wonder most grounds are half full or worse every saturday. Fans like to see their players show some aggression and that they care, the guy was throttling Timlin ffs. Has anyone in the FA actually played football or are they just lords and cronies of the government?

 

[1966 and all that]

OK, Timlin didn't get the free kick, but, having looked at the video, presumably Fletcher says something to Timlin who then squares up to him and Fletcher responds with an 'attempted' throttling, so red card no question. What I am saying is that Timlin is not entirely blameless and could have just got on with the job.

Also, I don't see the need for one's own players to get involved at all. This was purely another one of those heated incidents on the football field; it was not really going to end up with something so serious that necessitated our players getting involved. The ref was bound to send the player off whatever the outcome and by getting involved our players ran the risk of more bookings/red cards and now a possible fine for the club.

 

[Jai]

Handbags at five paces. Not sure why the FA can't see that. If they're going to fine teams every time both sets of players get involved in a fraca they'll be very rich by the end of the season - it happens in almost every game and is simply part of a high-intensity, passionate team sport. If you see your team mate being throttled, you're not really going to spend much time weighing up your moral responsibilties, you will instinctively go to his aid and personally I welcome it, as many others do, as it shows we're willing to back each other up. And it livened things up a bit. Barker as captain was straight in there on Fletcher and rightly so.

 

[Fish]

Well I can't speak for others but if I wanted to go and watch a wrestling match that's what I'd do. When I go to Roots Hall I go to watch a football match. I don't see how throttling someone around the neck, or running to get involved with such a situation, helps get the ball in the back of the net, which IS what I go to Roots Hall to see.

I have no time for those that say 'it's just a part of football'. It's NOT a part of football, it's against the rules. It's in the list of things you can't do. Because it's not relevant to legitimately getting the ball in the back of the net. Aggression is fine, it's a physical sport. But channel that aggression to winning the ball and scoring goals. Wasting energy scuffling with pricks who can't take losing is not what I expect professional sportsmen to do, and it's not what I part with my hard-earned to watch.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Well I can't speak for others but if I wanted to go and watch a wrestling match that's what I'd do. When I go to Roots Hall I go to watch a football match. I don't see how throttling someone around the neck, or running to get involved with such a situation, helps get the ball in the back of the net, which IS what I go to Roots Hall to see.

I have no time for those that say 'it's just a part of football'. It's NOT a part of football, it's against the rules. It's in the list of things you can't do. Because it's not relevant to legitimately getting the ball in the back of the net. Aggression is fine, it's a physical sport. But channel that aggression to winning the ball and scoring goals. Wasting energy scuffling with pricks who can't take losing is not what I expect professional sportsmen to do, and it's not what I part with my hard-earned to watch.

Well there's your first mistake :winking:

 

[Fish]

Well there's your first mistake :winking:

:dim::hilarious: Touché

 

[fbm]

Well I can't speak for others but if I wanted to go and watch a wrestling match that's what I'd do. When I go to Roots Hall I go to watch a football match. I don't see how throttling someone around the neck, or running to get involved with such a situation, helps get the ball in the back of the net, which IS what I go to Roots Hall to see.

I have no time for those that say 'it's just a part of football'. It's NOT a part of football, it's against the rules. It's in the list of things you can't do. Because it's not relevant to legitimately getting the ball in the back of the net. Aggression is fine, it's a physical sport. But channel that aggression to winning the ball and scoring goals. Wasting energy scuffling with pricks who can't take losing is not what I expect professional sportsmen to do, and it's not what I part with my hard-earned to watch.

But so are fouls, handball and being in an offside position. :winking:

Seriously though, I think in any contact or collision sport there is going to be an occasion or two when tempers get frayed and situations become heated. You won't ever get rid of it from the game which is just as well as it would become sterile and dull.

 

[Jai]

Whether it's right or wrong, the point is exactly that - you can't eliminate it from the game, it's part of human nature. So the FA going round fining teams is a bit off.

And how exactly is the club supposed to control its players? Are the directors supposed to come onto the pitch to break it up? Is Paul Sturrock going to wave a magic wand from the bench or perhaps wave a piece of cloth which has been cunningly dyed a nice, calming shade of lilac? Funny thing is if the coaching staff did try to control it, they'd probably get a touchline ban into the bargain!

I'm afraid it's yet another example of the suits that run the game being totally out of touch with those that play and watch it.

 

[Fish]

This isn't about technical fouls, it's about fundamental discipline and behaviour.

The FA is perfectly within its rights to encourage proper behaviour of players during competitions for which they are officiating and responsible.

We'll have to agree to disagree that you can't eliminate it from the game, because that's not the point, The point is surely that it should be discouraged because it's not a positive image for the game to have.

When a club is fined for not controlling its players, it's not about physically restraining their players during the incident itself. It's about failing to instil sufficient discipline in their players so that they don't get involved in the first place.

 

[1966 and all that]

There is absolutely no point in getting involved. What do footballers gain in doing so? Answer - nothing. Often it's the opposite.

 

[borientater]

The F.A. are pathetic , they are killing football , soon they will be fineing players for giving each other dirty looks ! What happened saturday was dealt with by the ref end of . Its a TEAM game so if a team mate is in bother you help him out ,thats the way it has always been and always should be, no one should stand back and let a mate be intimidated by an opponent, back your mates up and they will back you . Stick together and we will be better for it .
Nice to see a bit of passion for a change !!!