shrimperjon
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i iwll add Peter ButlerOr Dave Martin!
*not the goalie
** or the winger
i iwll add Peter ButlerOr Dave Martin!
*not the goalie
** or the winger
Spot on and that is a major contributory factor as to why we lacked game management at 2-1 in extra timeThis is a key issue. Since Demi has retired, the possibility of Gus going and Bonne potentially not staying, we have no one in the team that is fighting our corner.
We definitely need at least one player that isn't going to take any nonsense, that will let the opposition know they are in for a battle.
To me there should be less focus on the fee. Paying 100k for a highly promising twenty year old that you can sell on can be very good business. And fees are normally spread. I would hope we aren’t closed of to meaningful fees for the right player.This.
There were rumours that Oxford had already turned down a 6-figure sum for JG, from an EFL club.
We ain’t competing with that.
I'm not sure ****housery is the way to beat teams like Borehamwood. We have showed consistently under Maher that when we take the lead we're able to control the game (shhhhh, nobody mention Wembley) so the goal has to be adding players that are going to create more & better chances and get in players that can stick the ball in the back of the net. Ideally someone that can defend high balls into the box to limit chances from set pieces. Maher is a manager the looks to control the game, I don't think signing players that might get themselves sent off factors into that concept.This is a key issue. Since Demi has retired, the possibility of Gus going and Bonne potentially not staying, we have no one in the team that is fighting our corner.
I do get that Maher wants a team that is respected and isn't known for dark arts, but that means nothing when you're losing away to Borehamwood and we can't get back into the game because they are trying every trick in the book.
We definitely need at least one player that isn't going to take any nonsense, that will let the opposition know they are in for a battle.
The best game management would have been to score a 3rd. We should have done, a gilt edged chance wasn't taken.Spot on and that is a major contributory factor as to why we lacked game management at 2-1 in extra time
In fairness, I wasn't taking about ****housery. I was talking about matching their physicality (no nonsense). We've been found wanting on a number of occasions when it comes to that. That's what I meant by a no nonsense player. A player that is going to let the opposition know that not only are we a really good footballing side, but we can also give you a battle if we need to as well. We always found that hard particularly against those sides near the bottom who only ever want to play that way. This got better when Goodliffe came into the team to be fair.I'm not sure ****housery is the way to beat teams like Borehamwood. We have showed consistently under Maher that when we take the lead we're able to control the game (shhhhh, nobody mention Wembley) so the goal has to be adding players that are going to create more & better chances and get in players that can stick the ball in the back of the net. Ideally someone that can defend high balls into the box to limit chances from set pieces. Maher is a manager the looks to control the game, I don't think signing players that might get themselves sent off factors into that concept.
Or big Shane Westleyi iwll add Peter Butler
One player isn't going to make a difference though - you need the whole team to have that mindset.In fairness, I wasn't taking about ****housery. I was talking about matching their physicality (no nonsense). We've been found wanting on a number of occasions when it comes to that. That's what I meant by a no nonsense player. A player that is going to let the opposition know that not only are we a really good footballing side, but we can also give you a battle if we need to as well. We always found that hard particularly against those sides near the bottom who only ever want to play that way. This got better when Goodliffe came into the team to be fair.
If our recruitment team and Kev are serious (And by all means it looks like they are) we won't be back in for Goodliffe. Came into the side at a time of need after a few injuries and served a purpose well however, was found wanting in the play off ties, even if he did score against FGR. Was turned inside out by Rodney against Dale, lost a marker for FGR's equaliser and was responsible in part for all 3 goals at Wembley. Good player for the level but maybe not at the top of this division. Would rather look elswhere.I think you just described Ben Goodliffe!
Completely agree with this sentiment. I'd also put Miley and Noor in the tough tackling category but they are just first and foremost ball playing midfielders. I don't think we need to be nastier or grittier (call it what you will). We just need to manage games better from winning positions, something i'm sure the coaching staff will be aware of.I think the notion of needing a tough-tackler/****houser is a fallacy at best, and a myth at worst.
That's partly due to the game being different to what it was 10+ years ago, and a Gary Deegan-type not having the same effect in our system, or more widely on the way the game is mostly played today.
We didn't lose from a winning position against Oldham because we didn't have a ****house. We lost from a winning position against Oldham because they brought on a piece or two of superior quality which we didn't have (expected when their budget was nigh-on 3x larger than ours); because a chance to go 3-1 up that was easier to score than it was to miss wasn't taken by one of our players; and because our players were visbly out on their feet physically after three lots of 120 minutes through the playoff campaign.
The key to turning us into real promotion challengers is pretty simple.
More quality to make us better at the way we already play. Better quality crosses, passes and shots in the final third. That will do the trick. Not a midfield ****house.
couldn't we throw KAF in the mix as well. He has an uncanny way of tracking a player, diving in and winning the ball and rarely gives a foul awayCompletely agree with this sentiment. I'd also put Miley and Noor in the tough tackling category but they are just first and foremost ball playing midfielders. I don't think we need to be nastier or grittier (call it what you will). We just need to manage games better from winning positions, something i'm sure the coaching staff will be aware of.
Heard that's been the case for a few weeks now. Didn't a friend of his (Bonne) lash out in the away end to someone, somewhere in the season and say he was off to Qatar or somewhere else in that region ?As Bonne hasn't been spotted at training today, you would then assume he hasn't accepted the new terms put to him. Adios?
Which means we definitely need another Striker to come in...I think we did anyway regardless, so maybe even 2 required?
Agree, the arrival of Austin & Boyes (sounds like a title of 70's tv detective series) highlights this Club can and will now attract players who can and have played at a higher level, obviously budget restrictions withstanding. So yes going forward we are able to to land a CB that is a better all round option and hopefully we will and I say that without disrespecting Ben.If our recruitment team and Kev are serious (And by all means it looks like they are) we won't be back in for Goodliffe. Came into the side at a time of need after a few injuries and served a purpose well however, was found wanting in the play off ties, even if he did score against FGR. Was turned inside out by Rodney against Dale, lost a marker for FGR's equaliser and was responsible in part for all 3 goals at Wembley. Good player for the level but maybe not at the top of this division. Would rather look elswhere.
I guess we all see it differently. Many posters have suggested that Goodliffe was one of the main culprits for our Wembley loss. Even if this had not been a winner takes all play off game which could have gone either way this judgement seems harsh.If our recruitment team and Kev are serious (And by all means it looks like they are) we won't be back in for Goodliffe. Came into the side at a time of need after a few injuries and served a purpose well however, was found wanting in the play off ties, even if he did score against FGR. Was turned inside out by Rodney against Dale, lost a marker for FGR's equaliser and was responsible in part for all 3 goals at Wembley. Good player for the level but maybe not at the top of this division. Would rather look elswhere.
If Bonne has gone, I won’t be disappointed. I’m sure there’s still better players available.As Bonne hasn't been spotted at training today, you would then assume he hasn't accepted the new terms put to him. Adios?
Which means we definitely need another Striker to come in...I think we did anyway regardless, so maybe even 2 required?