The inevitable impact of Covid19

[Leigh_Seasider]

Are people still required to isolate by law, or is it now down to the individual to be responsible? I haven't heard anything since all restrictions were removed.

You still need to isolate unless you’ve got a negative test.

 

[GNH]

You still need to isolate unless you’ve got a negative test.

No you don't, it's only advised not a requirement.

Most people will decide to I would assume but it's not enforceable

 

[Holy Joe]

Are people still required to isolate by law, or is it now down to the individual to be responsible? I haven't heard anything since all restrictions were removed.

There is no legal requirement. It is guidance.

 

[Leigh_Seasider]

No you don't, it's only advised not a requirement.

Most people will decide to I would assume but it's not enforceable

Oh I thought it was .. most people still seem to be doing it.

 

[Holy Joe]

Here is the guidance

People with symptoms of a respiratory infection including COVID-19

Guidance for people with symptoms of a respiratory infection including COVID-19, or a positive test result for COVID-19.

www.gov.uk

 

[pottster]

Does anyone know where we can get tests from? I'm due back at work monday but will need to test.

 

[blueblueblue]

Here is the guidance

People with symptoms of a respiratory infection including COVID-19

Guidance for people with symptoms of a respiratory infection including COVID-19, or a positive test result for COVID-19.

www.gov.uk

It's company policy then, hence why a lot of airline staff are off sick, I'm assuming they're providing them with free LFT kits.

 

[Holy Joe]

Does anyone know where we can get tests from? I'm due back at work monday but will need to test.

Unless you work in a certain area, think it might be NHS and care homes, you have to buy them. Think tescos, boots etc do them

 

[blueblueblue]

You couldn't make this ****e up.....

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

My mate is late 40s, fit, non smoker, self employed gardener. Anyway, his daughter came home from Uni, she tested +, then last Wednesday my mate felt poorly after a full day mowing and hedging etc, so after night of coughing he tests + on Thursday. On Saturday he could barely move, so much so that paramedic thought he had had a stoke, Admitted to hospital, mri etc, no stroke but severe, rare reaction to covid. he is still in a no visit ward and v worried as no work means no money etc; and he still feels crap but cough has gone. His daughter is now clear and no issues.

 

[Tinks]

My mate is late 40s, fit, non smoker, self employed gardener. Anyway, his daughter came home from Uni, she tested +, then last Wednesday my mate felt poorly after a full day mowing and hedging etc, so after night of coughing he tests + on Thursday. On Saturday he could barely move, so much so that paramedic thought he had had a stoke, Admitted to hospital, mri etc, no stroke but severe, rare reaction to covid. he is still in a no visit ward and v worried as no work means no money etc; and he still feels crap but cough has gone. His daughter is now clear and no issues.

Oh blimey poor soul.
Hopefully, will pick up soon and I suspect they will be giving him the recent COVID medication just licensed.
Fingers crossed he doesn’t get long COVID

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Just heard a good mate of mine in SOS has got covid.He rarely goes out these days except for football.Bad news.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

At Rayleigh Sainsbury today there were very few mask wearers, I am continuing to wear in such a none social environment, and fewer looked to use sanitise station.
Also, did my blood donation bit at Saxon Hall in the afternoon, all staff masked and 90% of doners, they were working to full capacity. The wiping down and exaggerated spacing of last year has gone.

 

[RHB]

The Covid pandemic has caused the deaths of nearly 15 million people around the world, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates.
That is 13% more deaths than normally expected over two years.
The WHO believes many countries undercounted the numbers who died from Covid - only 5.4 million were reported.
In India, there were 4.7 million Covid deaths, it says - 10 times the official figures - and almost a third of Covid deaths globally.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Not a surprise with those figures @RHB, I know that in Italy many doctors refused to put covid as cause of death when other, likely terminal, but hastened, illnesses existed.
The African figures are going to similarly compiled and under estimates too. And in Middle East the non indigenous workers are "non" people for just about everything.

 

[RHB]

Not a surprise with those figures @RHB, I know that in Italy many doctors refused to put covid as cause of death when other, likely terminal, but hastened, illnesses existed.
The African figures are going to similarly compiled and under estimates too. And in Middle East the non indigenous workers are "non" people for just about everything.

So it wasn't really a lot of fuss over nothing then as some would have you believe, was it/is it?

 

[Userorange]

So it wasn't really a lot of fuss over nothing then as some would have you believe, was it/is it?

It certainly wasn’t. But the WHO’s figures have shown that Sweden’s light touch and refusal to lock down has led to one of the lowest excess deaths figures, because they just kept everything going as normally as possible including treating cancer patients within the normal time frame.

By comparison our excess deaths per 100,000 of population is nearly double Sweden’s. And 1000’s more will continue to die because of the backlog that has built up for urgent NHS treatment.

Sweden's Covid strategy appears to have been vindicated — The Telegraph

We in Britain should ask whether more lives might have been saved in the round had the Government not enforced a compulsory lockdown

apple.news

 

[Holy Joe]

It certainly wasn’t. But the WHO’s figures have shown that Sweden’s light touch and refusal to lock down has led to one of the lowest excess deaths figures, because they just kept everything going as normally as possible including treating cancer patients within the normal time frame.

By comparison our excess deaths per 100,000 of population is nearly double Sweden’s. And 1000’s more will continue to die because of the backlog that has built up for urgent NHS treatment.

Sweden's Covid strategy appears to have been vindicated — The Telegraph

We in Britain should ask whether more lives might have been saved in the round had the Government not enforced a compulsory lockdown

apple.news

There's so many variables at play, that I suspect it's highly simplistic, and playing to the articles intended audience, to suggest no lockdown was the sole reason that Sweden outperformed the UK.

Looking at the stats Sweden was the worst performing Scandinavian country - that might suggest no lockdown was a poor strategy.

Why does Ireland only have third of the excess deaths as the UK (and less than Sweden?)


Did the UK policy to release the hospitalised elderly into care homes increase the UK's excess deaths?

I think it's also simplistic to say Sweden had no lockdowns - they took plenty of precautions, both Government mandated and 'voluntarily'.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

It certainly wasn’t. But the WHO’s figures have shown that Sweden’s light touch and refusal to lock down has led to one of the lowest excess deaths figures, because they just kept everything going as normally as possible including treating cancer patients within the normal time frame.

By comparison our excess deaths per 100,000 of population is nearly double Sweden’s. And 1000’s more will continue to die because of the backlog that has built up for urgent NHS treatment.

Sweden's Covid strategy appears to have been vindicated — The Telegraph

We in Britain should ask whether more lives might have been saved in the round had the Government not enforced a compulsory lockdown

apple.news

That's a debatable claim to say the least.Sweden has only 3 major centres of population,Stockiholm ,Gothenburg and Malmo.Compare that to the UK's and many other EU countries much higher density of population figures..

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

There's so many variables at play, that I suspect it's highly simplistic, and playing to the articles intended audience, to suggest no lockdown was the sole reason that Sweden outperformed the UK.

Looking at the stats Sweden was the worst performing Scandinavian country - that might suggest no lockdown was a poor strategy.

Why does Ireland only have third of the excess deaths as the UK (and less than Sweden?)


Did the UK policy to release the hospitalised elderly into care homes increase the UK's excess deaths?

I think it's also simplistic to say Sweden had no lockdowns - they took plenty of precautions, both Government mandated and 'voluntarily'.

Agreed.